^^don't be upset b/c you already KNOW the Mets won't make the playoffs AGAIN in 2006

11/1/2005 12:43:44 PM

If they sign Wagner and Furcal I'd be willing to put money they finish in the playoffs...

V no I wouldn't have put money on it because there were still GLARING holes. Like the closer position and a true #2 hitter..

[Edited on November 1, 2005 at 12:47 PM. Reason : f]

11/1/2005 12:44:20 PM

I bet you would have said it last year with Beltran and Pedro too...

11/1/2005 12:45:36 PM

Quote :

"Reyes SS Furcal 2B"

i don't understand why they want furcal at 2B

no way reyes is a better SS than furcal

and reyes can play 2B, why not put him there

furcal's arm is too great an asset to waste at second

11/1/2005 4:47:40 PM

I think Reyes will be a gold glove SS. Furcal FINALLY got better at short this year but he averaged in the high 20s every year prior. Reyes has better range and an equal arm (yes they have the best 2 arms in the NL for SS). Reyes career fielding percentage at SS is 10 points higher then Furcal too. In 2005, Reyes first full year, he only had 18 errors. Until this year Furcal never had less then 23...

That and Furcal already said that he would switch to play in New York.

11/1/2005 4:51:55 PM

ahahha

this is from some dude on the braves.net boards

i hope this is a joke

Quote :

"KB's I'm a genius Braves team for 2006! Trade Andruw for Griffey, Chipper for Magglio, sign Nomar, trade Smoltz for Shawn Chacon (we need to look toward the future as well, trade Ramirez for a bag of peanuts, decline the option on Thomson, trade Giles for Jack Wilson, move Marte to 2B where he can be successful, sign the amazing Kevin Brown. THE STARTING LINEUP IS! 1. Wilson ss 2. Nomar 3B 3. Griffey Jr. CF 4. Ordonez LF 5. Francoeur Rf 6. LaRoche 1B 7. Marte 2B 8. McCann C STARTING ROTATION 1. Hudson 2. Sosa 3. Chacon 4. Davies 5. Brown CLOSER: Joey Devine/Chuck James"

11/2/2005 9:36:59 PM

Quote :

"sign the amazing Kevin Brown"

Good lord, of course that's a joke.

11/2/2005 9:44:25 PM

per Boston Herald

The Red Sox and Mets have opened up discussions again about a Manny Ramirez trade. The Red Sox would be willing to give up Ramirez for Mike Cameron, and 2 of the following 3: Heilman, Petit, and Milledge (the obvious 2 would be Heilman and Petit b/c Cliff Floyd is an obvious stopgap to Milledge aside Beltran).

If I were both sides I'd do this. This solidifies the bullpen next year for the Red Sox (with Heilman) time gives them 3 young rotation guys for the future (Papelbon, Petit, and Heilman), and allows them to resign Damon for LF if the Mets take on all of Manny contract.

This benefits the Mets by ridding the team of a true CFer being paid 8M/year to play out of position and by giving them the true cleanup hitter they have so desperately needed. If they go out and sign Wagner, which is a virtual certainty in my mind, then the loss of Heilman is easily recouped.

I still am not 100% on it but I am beginning to like it given I am a Mets and Red Sox fan (although Mets first by a shred).

11/8/2005 8:34:31 AM

I really hope Furcal re-signs with the Braves... that makes me kinda nervous.

11/8/2005 9:41:17 AM

Oh I meant to post that. The Mets are prepared to offer Furcal 38 million over 5 years on Friday (the first day free agents can talk money with other teams) per WFAN in New York. The Braves have shown some hesitance to give him more then a 3 year deal but I'm not sure 38MM over 5 will do it for him. I don't know the particulars though..

11/8/2005 9:45:11 AM

Well, Cox has the uncanny ability to trade players when they're about ready to hit that steady stroll downhill into the end of their careers. I think furcal has some good years ahead of him though... I hope he stays on board. Keeping Andruw Jones on after 2007 will be tough too.

11/8/2005 9:47:37 AM

There should be money left to keep Jones after 2007. I think Tim Hudson is the only player with a contract through 2008.

11/8/2005 1:29:23 PM

furcal is as good as gone

signing him to a 5 year deal is ridiculous, the mets are just throwing away money

now if we can just deal estrada and thomson

11/8/2005 2:49:46 PM

Why? He is relatively young still. Is it any more stupid then locking up perenially injured Chipper Jones longterm? Or when the Mets signed Piazza longterm knowing at the end his body would be breaking down? Now obviously Furcal isn't as valuable as those two but I see no problem with a longterm contract... If that is the best way to lock up a player that will help out the team A TON then why not...

FYI I know Chipper still plays a ton of games but he is consitently hurt and the last 2 years it has hampered his numbers..

[Edited on November 8, 2005 at 2:56 PM. Reason : f]

11/8/2005 2:53:35 PM

Just read that the Yankees are shopping around Jorge Posada and have no interest in trading Cano or Wang for Hunter. The likely candidate for CF, despite his attitude problems, is Milton Bradley.

11/8/2005 2:55:47 PM

chipper might not be putting up consistent numbers lately but he is a franchise-type player

and furcal is a leadoff hitter whose never hit .300

he does get on base a lot and he can steal, but he's prone to go into a deep slump and hit .200 for a month or two

the braves offered him 8m/year last offseason and he balked so unless he's just looking for a long term deal, it'll probably take at least 10m/year

50m is too much for a barely average leadoff hitter no matter how good his glove is

11/8/2005 3:56:37 PM

Ernie, you know that the Braves picked up Thomson's option don't you?

http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051101&content_id=1263158&vkey=news_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl

11/8/2005 4:03:22 PM

yeah hopefully they can trade him away

11/8/2005 4:05:07 PM

Who do you expect that they would trade him for? The rotation is already looking kinda weak after Smoltz and Hudson.

11/8/2005 4:14:05 PM

james, lerew, and davies are ready for the big leagues

we need some veteran bullpen help and maybe a solid utility infielder

dealing thomson and/or estrada can free up some salary for free agent signings

11/8/2005 4:16:29 PM

i like raffy, and i hope he stays, but in the near future, we've got options at ss. perfect world: furcal re-signs, then when escobar or andrus are ready, we ship him or he goes elsewhere.

11/8/2005 9:41:35 PM

yeah escobar looks to be ready in another 2 years or so

i think the money furcal wants would be best spent elsewhere though

can you imagine if escobar and marte pan out and we keep the young guys we have now

i don't see how the streak could ever come to an end

THE FUTURE IS SO BRIGHT I HAVE TO WEAR SHADES

11/8/2005 10:25:12 PM

not sure if you've heard of andrus, 16 or 17 y.o. SS from venezuela. already played in the GCL, has great defense, and a nice swing. he won't be ready for a while, but i wouldn't be surprised if we start hearing his name soon.

11/9/2005 6:57:00 AM

everything on insider and stuff I've read has Furcal goin to the Cubs, not the Mets

I think the Mets should use their money elsewhere instead of overpaying for Furcal like perhaps a solid first baseman, a power hitter, and some good bullpen peeps

11/9/2005 11:35:23 AM

The Cubs signed Neifi Perez to a 2 year deal yesteday. The Mets #1 target is still Wagner though. I didn't repost that b/c I mentioned it earlier. I'd be SHOCKED if he doesn't go to Queens...

11/9/2005 11:36:51 AM

11/9/2005 11:55:41 PM

haha nice

11/10/2005 12:07:33 AM

A Washington newpaper is reporting that Theo Epstein is set to become the new GM in Washingto and Cal Ripken is set to become the new team president, regardless of the ownership situation... idk about you guys but this seems a little far fetched... i don't feel like posting the link but you can find it on Foxsports

11/10/2005 2:13:35 AM

god damn

the mets are going after EVERYONE

burnett, furcal, possibly delgado, wagner, jeff kent, and soriano

i've heard they'll go after danny baez if they can't get wagner

here's to hoping they all have beltran-esque years if they sign with the mets

11/10/2005 2:19:21 PM

I think Wagner is a definite. He has almost said as much in interviews. I think he'll be signed rather quickly..

the others are all up in the air. Ramon Hernandez and Benji Molina are VERY HIGH on the list too. B.J. Ryan as well..

11/10/2005 2:20:47 PM

so are the braves gonna do anything to try and keep furcal? or is he as good as gone?

11/10/2005 2:22:14 PM

please leave ryan for us

thx

^he's pretty much gone

he wants around $10m a year, braves haven't made an offer yet but it will probably be in the neighborhood of $8m and not nearly as long-term as he'd like

furcal has said he'd stay in atlanta for less than he's worth, but he probably won't when the cubs and mets starting throwing wells fargo trucks at him

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 2:24 PM. Reason : ]

11/10/2005 2:22:30 PM

sombitch! any ideas who could replace him in atlanta?

11/10/2005 2:27:36 PM

probably betemit until he fizzles out

read the thread

11/10/2005 2:31:19 PM

I heard the Mets are going after Raffy Palmeiro, Oil Can Boyd, Harmon Killebrew, Rollie Fingers, Kurt Rambis, and Jim Henson

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 4:33 PM. Reason : asdf das]

11/10/2005 4:28:10 PM

Yanks have started negotiating with Matsui's agent. Have until Nov. 15 to resign him.

11/10/2005 4:37:49 PM

Yankees apparently interested in making furcal their center fielder. Braves better hurry up or furcal will be gone within a week.

11/10/2005 5:52:28 PM

^^^well, they are interested in julio franco.

seems to me like the mets are the yankees lite.

11/10/2005 6:14:36 PM

anyone have espn insider and can post the latest rumor central?

11/10/2005 7:08:46 PM

^^^ hahaha...where did you hear that?

That's a good one.

11/10/2005 7:09:37 PM

Interesting the Braves are reported to be inquiring about Julio Lugo for SS. Which means two things: Furcal is probably gone and they don't feel comfortable enough with Betemit to make him a fulltime guy yet. It should be interesting to see how this plays out.

I think at this point, given the news out from Omar Minaya that Furcal will be a Cub (ridiculous rumors from the Yankees notwithstanding)..

11/11/2005 11:26:01 AM

julio lugo is a decent replacement. he's got good speed and he can bunt. i don't know much about his defense, but there are worse players out there

11/11/2005 11:31:02 AM

^^^
CBS Sportsline. I know they give a lot of crap information and I also thought it was funny. Just thought I'd throw it out there

11/11/2005 4:06:30 PM

Post actual offers as you hear them if you can...

11/11/2005 7:15:30 PM

furcal is looking for $50 million

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2221393&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

11/12/2005 12:40:27 PM

*bump* from page 3

any news?

11/16/2005 6:38:54 AM

Yanks resigned Matsui for $52M over four years.

11/16/2005 8:33:00 AM

Quote :

"A Team of Phillies representatives will visit free agent LHP Billy Wagner at his home in Virginia today… “I think this will be a big day for the Phillies as far as making a big effort concerning what they want to do,” Wagner tells Paul Hagen in the Philadelphia Daily News. “Every team starts the season by saying they want to win the World Series. But if they don't have a clue what they're going to do about the bullpen, even if they sign me, that's a concern.”… The Mets met with Wagner in Virginia the week before last, and have scheduled a follow-up visit for next Monday and Tuesday in New York… Asked whether he could refuse a four-year offer from the Mets, Wagner said, “Four years would be hard to turn down. The Mets are already ahead in some aspects because of the kind of team they can put on the field.”… "

Also, the it looks like the Mets are high on Ramon Hernandez for C.

** I'm trying to dig up some information on the Red Sox but it seems they have been pretty quiet on the Hot Stove without a GM..

11/16/2005 8:41:43 AM

Buster Olney is reporting a trade completed b/t the Mets and Padres that will send Mike Cameron to SD for Otsuka (and possibly Nady as well)..

11/16/2005 1:44:49 PM

How will that affect a possible Manny Deal, since I thought Cameron was a likely part of any deal?

11/16/2005 3:51:00 PM