its not that we dont ask questions
its that we find the right answers

10/11/2005 4:46:23 PM

Quote :

"oh i don't know, perhaps temperatures so high that the steel buckled "

Are you talking about WTC Building 7? There were only a few small fires in WTC 7.

And by the way, the temperatures of the fires in the twin towers were nowhere near hot enough to cause the steel to fail. And even IF they were, why did the towers fall WHEN THE FIRES WERE ALMOST OUT...LONG, LONG AFTER THE FIRES WERE AT THEIR HOTTEST POINT.


[Edited on October 11, 2005 at 4:52 PM. Reason : 1]

10/11/2005 4:49:43 PM

right

because it takes a while for the steel to degrade once reaching a certain temperature?

[Edited on October 11, 2005 at 4:52 PM. Reason : *]

10/11/2005 4:51:57 PM

if you want to disagree with the experts

10/11/2005 4:51:58 PM

salisbury was involved with 9-11 disaster - it's the only way he could know so much

10/11/2005 4:52:57 PM

i told you he is a jew working for the government

see here

http://www.jewsincontrol.com/list/i3eer3/blog.html

10/11/2005 4:53:47 PM

I got an expert for you...

WTC Construction Manager: Towers Were Designed to Take Numerous Plane Crashes
short video clip: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/141104designedtotake.htm


Oh, and just TOTALLY IGNORE the eyewitness and video evidence of explosives in the towers.

10/11/2005 4:54:32 PM

there is NO video evidence of explosives in the tower.

there may be video evidence of explosions that can be explained.

there is MULTITUDES of evidence that you're a paranoid motherfucker with an iq lower than your age.

10/11/2005 4:55:44 PM

woah woah - hold up here - you mean something didn't function as designed - okay this is completely ludicrous on an epidemic scale - we're all going to die

10/11/2005 4:55:44 PM

Quote :

"there is NO video evidence of explosives in the tower"

yeah, and the earth is flat

10/11/2005 4:56:44 PM

1. designed for 707
2. sometimes things dont perform as well as expected

10/11/2005 4:56:55 PM

^^

10/11/2005 4:58:03 PM

all this evidence is unqualified eyewitnesses and other wacko nut jobs

10/11/2005 4:59:18 PM

I WANT TO KNOW TWO THINGS

1. WHAT CAUSED THE ERUPTION AT POMPEI
2. WHAT CAUSED THE TSUNAMI


I KNOW YOU'RE HIDING SOMETHING SALISBURYBOY

10/11/2005 5:02:35 PM

Quote :

"And by the way, the temperatures of the fires in the twin towers were nowhere near hot enough to cause the steel to fail. And even IF they were, why did the towers fall WHEN THE FIRES WERE ALMOST OUT...LONG, LONG AFTER THE FIRES WERE AT THEIR HOTTEST POINT. "

Do you know anything about Jet Fuel, JP-6 and the powers it has? Man you need to find another hobby.

10/11/2005 5:09:36 PM

people in the tsunami's were killed by giant waves

http://www.linktoarticle.com/blahblablah/newssource

Quote :

"Bolded article title see its bolded blah blah blah heres a news source discusing what i am talking about. it can be a legit news source as i am trying to gain credibility and make people think that the news source has my errant conclusion. blah blah blah heres a news source discusing what i am talking about. it can be a legit news source as i am trying to gain credibility and make people think that the news source has my errant conclusion. blah blah blah heres a news source discusing what i am talking about. it can be a legit news source as i am trying to gain credibility and make people think that the news source has my errant conclusion. blah blah blah heres a news source discusing what i am talking about. it can be a legit news source as i am trying to gain credibility and make people think that the news source has my errant conclusion. blah blah blah heres a news source discusing what i am talking about. it can be a legit news source as i am trying to gain credibility and make people think that the news source has my errant conclusion [...] blah blah blah heres a news source discusing what i am talking about. it can be a legit news source as i am trying to gain credibility and make people think that the news source has my errant conclusionblah blah blah heres a news source discusing what i am talking about. it can be a legit news source as i am trying to gain credibility and make people think that the news source has my errant conclusion [...] more stuff from the article including some choice quotes that i may or may not take out of context at my discretion"

Quote :

"my errant conclusion you know what else causes giant waves? fat people http://www.whackowebsite.com/fatpeopleinpoolmakewaves.com"

10/11/2005 5:11:09 PM

Heres my follow up post with more evidence to support my errant conclusions. I will post a lot of it and not consider your arguments when you refute them. Because I have so many links to stuff you know its true, in fact its irrefutable... its fact. hopefully you wont notice that these links and vids are by people who are no more qualified than you or i on the subject and whos only credibility comes from someone linking to them

When fat people jump in pools water spashes
http://www.funnyvids.com/fatguylittlepool.wmv

Fat people make really big splashes
http://www.conspiracysite.com/fatguychangestides.com

Eyewitnesses say waves were as if "God himself did a cannonball
http://www.internetvid.com/onetoothedyokelspeaks.avi

Government has people specialized in "aquatic operations"
http://www.somethingtotallyunrelated.com/butitsaysgovernment.wmv

Reporter mentions never feeling earthquake
http://www.clearlyafatguy.com/noquakefelt

10/11/2005 5:22:02 PM

heres my tripple post
http://www.space.com/news/stories_september_11-1.html

Quote :

" Eyewitness: The World Trade Center By Fred Abatemarco Editor in Chief, SPACE.com posted: 30 June 2005 05:46 am NEW YORK -- I was uncharacteristically early for my meeting yesterday at Battery Park in lower Manhattan, some five blocks south of the World Trade Center. I typically take the Number 1 or 9 IRT subway to Rector Street, emerging literally in the shadow of the twin towers, and then walk south a few blocks. Biding my time at the Long Island Railroad station at 34th Street, I went street-side to a bank, then tried to make a cell phone call or two. The cell calls did not go through. I thought little of this at the time. One or two emergency vehicles zoomed south on 7th Avenue, but that didn't seem unusual, either. Until one police cruiser, speeding east on 34th Street, turned south on 7th Avenue, furiously weaving and dodging traffic with tires squealing on the turn. The digital clock above the entrance to Penn Station read 9:08am. ... Reports added that there was a fire on the Washington mall. On the screen was the same otherworldly view that held my gaze on the street. Smoke and flame poured from the World Trade Center buildings in an eerie silence. It seemed like a science fiction movie. "

HOLLYWOOD JEWS USE 9/11 AS A MOST AWESOME SET FOR THEIR NEXT SCI-FI MOVIE

10/11/2005 5:27:40 PM

Well, the impact of aircraft didn't knock down the WTC. It was the thousands of gallons of burning jet fuel that weakened the structural integrity of the steel.

10/11/2005 8:14:00 PM

Quote :

"take notice of the two clear explosive charges going off sending debri to the right of the building. "

looks like the force of floors collapsing on floors sending debris out windows

not explosive charges

[Edited on October 11, 2005 at 8:27 PM. Reason : s]

10/11/2005 8:24:25 PM

so some little hired company by the government sat there all day with hard hats and a control waiting for the predetermined attack to happen and when it did pushed a button and all the bombs went of, bombs that SURVIVED the plane hit and teh FIRE that would normally set off any bombs or explosive materials


yea i can see that...if i was blind, retarded and deaf.

10/11/2005 8:30:08 PM

dude I just read some of this guy's posts


time to check into the ol loony house

10/11/2005 10:10:19 PM

Not that there is much point trying to bring this thread back on topic, but didn't the N.O. levees fail PAST their design point? THEY WERE DESIGNED TO FAIL IN A CATEGORY 4 STORM. WIERD THINGS HAPPEN WHEN YOU PUSH A STRUCTURE PAST ITS SAFE OPERATING LIMITS. THIS IS NEITHER A SUPRISE NOR A CONSPIRACY. [/thread]

10/12/2005 9:49:57 PM

But New Orleans wasn't hit by a category 4 hurricane, Mississippi was.

New Orleans received the equivalent storm surge, if I remember correctly, of a strong category 2 hurricane.

10/13/2005 1:04:28 AM

STORM SURGE DOESN'T AFFECT A FUCKING LAKE

the levees broke from rainfall

10/13/2005 8:15:38 AM

Interresting theory. Of course, it is completely false. You see, the lake is attached to the ocean and water is allowed to freely move back and forth via a HUGE openning.

Engineers have stated the a better solution to fix this problem once and for all is not to make the levies any bigger (well, maybe a little) but the primary solution will be to construct a mechanism for closing off the entrance to the lake, much like has been constructed at the mouth of the thames river in London England.

10/13/2005 9:57:00 AM

^ if that's true then it isn't a lake.

10/13/2005 10:46:17 AM

lake ponchatrain can have a storm surge
in fact it was like 14ft
it happens when storms are geographically large

[Edited on October 13, 2005 at 10:51 AM. Reason : i watched the discovery channel]

10/13/2005 10:51:22 AM

the mississippi river was actually flowing backwards at the height of the storm. don't even try to front like that lake can't have a storm surge

[Edited on October 13, 2005 at 11:02 AM. Reason : s]

10/13/2005 11:02:04 AM

well that would be great if the mississippi flowed into lake ponchartrain, but it doesn't.

10/13/2005 11:35:58 AM

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=New+Orleans,+LA&ll=30.092861,-89.673157&spn=0.561002,1.312454&hl=en

10/13/2005 12:53:06 PM

yeah, it goes right past it to the south.

i still fail to see how a body of water with an opening to open ocean, as it is shown on the map and from the aerials can be called a lake.

10/13/2005 12:57:49 PM

so rivers that run into an ocean are not really rivers

10/13/2005 1:17:08 PM

Quote :

"lake n 1: a body of (usually fresh) water surrounded by land "

10/13/2005 1:31:28 PM

um

it is surrounded by land

10/13/2005 1:40:49 PM

um, no it has a huge opening to the fucking gulf of mexico.

i guess if you call that a "river" then it would work.

[Edited on October 13, 2005 at 1:59 PM. Reason : *]

10/13/2005 1:59:10 PM

its a fucking lake.

10/13/2005 2:00:39 PM

like ricki lake

10/13/2005 2:07:02 PM

Quote :

"um, no it has a huge opening to the fucking gulf of mexico."

no it doesnt
get a map

10/13/2005 2:08:07 PM

According to that map up there, the only opening is a river. A real short river, but a river.

It's a fucking lake.

10/13/2005 2:09:14 PM

As I understand it, there is only a river linking the lake with the gulf. However, when the water rises because of storm surge, the marshy area separating the late from the gulf (and surrounding the river) floods allowing the lake to rise very quickly to match the high sea levels.

One problem is that after the lake has filled up and the gulf of mexico receeds to its normal level the marsh drains leaving only the relatively small river to drain the lake, so it stays high long past the storm surge.

Conversely, when the storm is relatively small and the gulf of mexico does not rise above the marsh then the lake level barely rises because the smallish river restricts the flow of water preventing the lake from rising as high as the ocean. .

10/13/2005 4:11:13 PM

Quote :

"Study: Design flaws in New Orleans levees NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (AP) -- The engineers who designed the floodwalls that collapsed during Hurricane Katrina did not fully consider the porousness of the Louisiana soil or make other calculations that would have pointed to the need for stronger levees with deeper pilings and wider bases, researchers say. At least one key scenario was ignored in the design, say the researchers, who are scheduled to report their findings at a congressional hearing Wednesday: the possibility that canal water might seep into the dirt on the dry side of the levees, thereby weakening the embankment holding up the floodwalls. "I'd call it a design omission," said Robert Bea, a University of California at Berkeley civil engineering professor who took part in the study for the National Science Foundation. The research team found other problems in the city's flood-control system, including evidence of poor maintenance and confusion over jurisdiction. Bea also questioned the margin for error engineers used in their designs, saying the standards -- which call for structures to be 30 percent stronger than the force they are meant to stop -- date to the first half of the 1900s, when most levees were built to protect farmland, not major cities. "The center of New Orleans is certainly not protection of farmland, so the factor of safety was incredibly low," Bea said. "We're talking about thousands of families without homes and shutting down a commercial infrastructure that's pretty darn important to the United States." While surging waters from the Gulf of Mexico flowed up and over levees east of the city, flooding in central New Orleans and parts of downtown was caused by breaches at barriers along the 17th Street and London Avenue canals, both of which have been built since the late 1980s."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/11/01/levee.probe.ap/index.html

How dare our globalist elite media controllers write a story using "engineers" and "expert analysis".

11/1/2005 11:17:19 PM

It has got to suck being as paranoid as this kid is. I bet he about shit his pants if he was at the SMU game when they did the fly over.

11/2/2005 3:43:31 AM

Military--industrial complex lies about levees' controlled demolition
http://www.total411.info/2005/11/citris-military-industrial-complex.html

Quote :

"The newest twist being peddled is that a contractor here or there used inferior materials, which then apparently spontaneously combusted and "heaved" in the hours following the Category 2 winds Katrina brought down upon the canal levees in New Orleans proper. [...] A few weeks before, it was the native peat soil which spontaneously combusted. [...] ...there is simply no reasonable explanation for these "mass soil movements" beyond placed charges. It's no wonder that Seed's carefully-preared testimony to Congress avoided mentioning the explosive behavior of the soil, suddenly "heaving" up to 35 feet.. Why would a scientist make his case on innuendo instead of basic physics? Follow the money. According to the UC-Berkely's Berkeleyan newspaper Oct. 20, Seed's team at Berkeley received "funding from the National Science Foundation (NSF) and the campus's Center for Information Technology Research in the Interest of Society (CITRIS) [and] joined teams mobilized by the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE).""

FLASHBACK:

VIDEO: Earwitness tells ABC explosives blew Industrial Canal levee
http://www.total411.info/2005/09/video-earwitness-tells-abc-explosives.html

11/8/2005 8:47:21 AM

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2005/251105sniperincident.htm

Quote :

"New Information On Sniper Incident Betrays More Evidence Of Federal New Orleans Sabotage [...] The relief contractors on the Danziger Bridge were there to fix flood defenses that many suggest were blown by the government in the first place. Their efforts would have scuppered the federal government's plan to keep New Orleans in a state of panic and disorder, therefore the most likely explanation is that they paid for their good intentions with their lives."

FLASHBACK:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/050905fivedead.htm

Quote :

"Five dead 'were army workers' The Australian | September 5 2005 At least five people shot dead by police as they walked across a New Orleans bridge yesterday were contractors working for the US Defence department, according to a report by The Associated Press. A spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers said the victims were contractors on their way to repair a canal, the new agency said, quoting a defence Department spokesman."

11/25/2005 10:08:15 AM

OH HOW WE LOVE PRISONPLANET!!!1

11/25/2005 5:27:42 PM

Quote :

"take notice of the two clear explosive charges going off sending debri to the right of the building"

hmm

i'm not much of an engineer, but i think those lil' puffs off to the side were caused by the building pancaking on itself...

i dunno

[Edited on November 26, 2005 at 12:58 AM. Reason : l]

11/26/2005 12:50:43 AM

unlike a paperclip, a steel girder does not just bend over and quietly give way. The "popping" sound when you break something small, becomes a veritable explosion when you break something large.

11/26/2005 12:56:52 AM

AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

11/26/2005 9:15:05 AM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10370145/

Quote :

"Were the levees bombed in New Orleans? Ninth Ward residents give voice to a conspiracy theory By Lisa Myers & the NBC Investigative Unit Dec. 7, 2005 WASHINGTON - It's become a strongly held belief by some in the storm zone — the idea that the destruction of New Orleans’ heavily poor, heavily black Ninth Ward was neither an accident nor an act of nature. Dyan French, also known as “Mama D,” is a New Orleans Citizen and Community Leader. She testified before the House Select Committee on Hurricane Katrina on Tuesday. “I was on my front porch. I have witnesses that they bombed the walls of the levee, boom, boom!” Mama D said, holding her head. “Mister, I'll never forget it.” [...] Similar statements, sometimes couched as rumors, have also been voiced by Louis Farrakhan, leader of the nation of Islam, and director Spike Lee. “I don't find it too far-fetched,” Lee said in a recent television interview, “that they try to displace all the black people out of New Orleans.” "

NOTHING TO SEE HERE! THE MSM MEDIA SAYS IT'S JUST A "CONSPIRACY THEORY." WHEW. THANK YOU MSM. OH, AND EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY IS "SO UNRELIABLE." SO WHAT IF MANY EYEWITNESSES HEARD AN EXPLOSION?! JUST BELIEVE WHATEVER THE MSM TELLS YOU. THANK GOD PEOPLE JUST BELIEVE WHATEVER THE MSM TELLS THEM. OTHERWISE WE'D HAVE A LOT OF WHACKO CONPIRACY THEORISTS OUT THERE. REMEMBER, IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THE GOVERNMENT OR THE MSM, YOU'RE A CERTIFIED WACKO. INSANE. A NUTJOB CONSPIRACY THEORIST. THAT GOES FOR IRAQ'S WMDS AND THE DENIALS OF TORTURE TOO.


[Edited on December 8, 2005 at 8:30 AM. Reason : `]

12/8/2005 8:27:36 AM