Quote :

"PSP plays video, on a bigger screen, longer, and is drastically cheaper. "

Umm... 30 gig ipod video is 269 education priced... psp is 249 and you have to buy 15-30 dollar umd's... and memory sticks for music storage. How is the PSP drastically cheaper?

10/12/2005 2:31:03 PM

Quote :

"Apple’s set up to allow you to purchase TV shows for $1.99 apiece. Get Desperate Housewives or four other ABC shows premiering on iTunes at two bucks an ep."

i'm not at all shocked or anything about a video ipod, but THIS is huge. freaking huge. $2 a piece tv episodes? for the first time ever. wow

actually, fuck this shit, where's my wifi / evdo compatibility ?

[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 2:34 PM. Reason : .]

10/12/2005 2:31:51 PM

Quote :

"Wonder how long it will take to break the DRM on the TV shows. $1.99 an episode is a lot less than buying boxed set DVDs..."

Actually most of the box sets these days would be cheaper. Not by a whole lot, but still would be cheaper.

also, every show is already online for free.

10/12/2005 2:35:37 PM

yes but again, that's illegal. not that i care, but this is a new and REALLY smart business model

also, you can't just get one episode on dvd like you can here. thi si sreally cool

[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 2:37 PM. Reason : .]

10/12/2005 2:36:56 PM

so its like one of those windows media players.

only not as good

10/12/2005 2:37:06 PM

Quote :

"PSP plays video, on a bigger screen, longer, and is drastically cheaper."

The PSP uses a cheap-ass panel.

The dead pixels are everywhere.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/03/25/news_6121092.html
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000070037508/
http://news.com.com/Sony+answers+PSP+dead-pixel+gripes/2100-1043_3-5643393.html
http://palgn.com.au/article.php?id=3040
http://www.neoseeker.com/news/story/4461/
http://www.i4u.com/article3340.html
http://psp.ign.com/articles/599/599185p1.html

and many more ...

10/12/2005 2:38:12 PM

Quote :

"$1.99 an episode is a lot less than buying boxed set DVDs"

only if you're buying nerdtacular shows
like star treck

but arrested development , scrubs, lost, DH, friends, simpsons, all come in under 2 an episode

10/12/2005 2:38:57 PM

and remember that the majority of the cost of that box set is the physical packaging, production, shipping, ect. so even if you were able to get SOME series cheaper than the boxed sets would cost... you're not actually getting a what you'd get in a dvd set (extra features, director commentary) AND it costs them practically nothing to sell it to you.

10/12/2005 2:39:38 PM

but again, only if you buy the whole season.

this is more like a "oh shit i missed it and i don't want to get it illegally" thing

10/12/2005 2:39:40 PM

yeah 2 bucks puts owning a tv show through itunes just under the cost of viewing a pay-per-view over satellite or cable

anyways, just filed the order with my manager to carry about 10 of each size and color. should be here in about 4 days, maybe 5

[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 2:43 PM. Reason : v]

10/12/2005 2:41:21 PM

also, you have to wait for dvds to come out. this will probably be out the day after the episode airs

10/12/2005 2:43:28 PM

Quote :

"Woodfoot: only if you're buying nerdtacular shows like star treck"

well I'm a nerd, that's the kind of shit I watch

(notice the presence on TWW, in Tech Talk, discussing a computer company )

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your point's noted Charybdisjim, I didn't really recognize how many episodes end up in a season

[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 2:46 PM. Reason : ---]

10/12/2005 2:44:41 PM

are these tv shows going to be in the new quicktime codec format?

10/12/2005 2:50:09 PM

Quote :

"so its like one of those windows media players. only not as good "

No. It's like an iPod, only better.

It's a music player that also happens to be able to play videos, rather than a video player, that also happens to play music (which all the other video players out there now are).

It's probably the smallest of the HD based devices that play video, and can hold a lot more videos than a PSP, and can be hooked up to a TV. The drawback though is that the iTMS videos supposedly are only 320x240. You can encode your own MPEG4 videos at a higher res though. This new iPod is also replacing the old non-Nano iPod.

[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 2:54 PM. Reason : 2]

10/12/2005 2:50:56 PM

now I can watch porn on my lunch break!

10/12/2005 2:54:47 PM

mmmm... porn...

10/12/2005 3:00:52 PM

I'm real tempted to get one of these.... even the 60gb version is smaller than the old 20gb!! how do they do it?

10/12/2005 3:07:27 PM

Quote :

""oh shit i missed it and i don't want to get it illegally" "

hahahaha, your morals are entirely too high

it's a TV show

10/12/2005 3:09:22 PM

hem, as I said, I don't mind getting illegal tv, but other people do. same with music. why do you think the itunes store is so popular? also, less internet savvy people don't know HOW to download illegal tv, even if htey do want to.

for the "regulars" among us, this is a big deal. trust me.

10/12/2005 3:18:22 PM

^^ black magic

10/12/2005 3:18:25 PM

http://www.apple.com/ipod/ipod.html

Quote :

" Oh, and you can do it all from across the room using the optional Universal Dock and handy new Apple remote"

Finally!

Quote :

"30GB: Up to 14 hours of music playback; up to 3 hours of slideshows with music; up to 2 hours of video playback 60GB: Up to 20 hours of music playback; up to 4 hours of slideshows with music; up to 3 hours of video playback"

Wow, 3 hours of video playback.
Did they increase the RAM to decrease HD spinning? Video pretty much requires the HD to spin constantly ... I'd have thought it would have killed the battery life more than that.

10/12/2005 3:40:37 PM

so uh who wants to buy my year-old 4G ipod?

10/12/2005 3:43:49 PM

i could see it as a replacement for HBO

the only thing i'd want hbo for is the series
but its like $60 minimum, so if i could download 4 episodes of Entourage, that'd only be $8 bucks...

10/12/2005 3:55:12 PM

GOD DAMMIT

i just bought a new 20 gig 2 weeks ago for 279

GOD DAMMIT

10/12/2005 4:15:08 PM

yeah, i think they've blown their load to quickly

but of course
this isn't the first time

10/12/2005 4:19:58 PM

^^i would think you'd be able to return it....right? I would hope they'd let you at least.

10/12/2005 4:27:37 PM

really

info plz

10/12/2005 4:31:23 PM

so there's a new "Video" label in iTunes 6, and you can sort videos by movie, music video, TV, and podcasts (wtf).
When I started iTunes, though, it told me I needed Quicktime 7.0.3 to d/l videos from the music store. I tried to update QT, but only 7.0.2 is available. But the real problem is it won't allow me to import or put any of my existing videos into the Videos section. Is that only for videos/TV downloaded from iTunes? Or is it now supposed to be a video cataloger for all your existing video? I don't imagine it has to do with not having the right version of QT.

10/12/2005 4:33:58 PM

heh
i ain't organizing my porn the same place i listen to music, k

10/12/2005 4:38:09 PM

^ Dave Chappell had a bit about that in season 1

10/12/2005 4:41:51 PM

Really?

10/12/2005 4:42:12 PM

agentllion, it said the same thing for me also. I'm guessing we have to wait until 7.0.3 comes out...i tried previewing one of the tv shows/short films....nothing played

10/12/2005 5:07:47 PM

http://www.apple.com/ipod/ipodyourcar/



im so excited!

http://www.apple.com/ipod/autosync.html
is this autosync function gonna work with the older models? or just this new video ipod?

[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 5:26 PM. Reason : s]

10/12/2005 5:22:37 PM

they charge $2 for an hour long tv show, which is fair.
they also charge $2 for a 3 minute long music video, which is too fucking much. I'm prolly buy a few if the were closer to fiddy cent

10/12/2005 5:39:10 PM

so you're saying the audio alone is worth $0.99 to you, but by adding video it would only be worth $0.50.

is that fuzzy math?

10/12/2005 5:56:26 PM

I'm gonna hold out for FM, wi-fi, mind control, and dick-sucking capability before I drop four c-notes

10/12/2005 5:58:13 PM

yeah, the fact you can download the tv show the day after it runs with all of the commercials allready edited out is pretty fucking cool.

10/12/2005 6:07:54 PM

Quote :

"yeah, the fact you can download the tv show the day after it runs with all of the commercials allready edited out is pretty fucking cool."

its been like that for quite some time now.

10/12/2005 6:39:53 PM

BUT NOT LEGALLY, GOD DAMMIT

also, sugarrush, none of that is new. that's all been around, and all of the ipods (far as i know) will autosync.

10/12/2005 7:22:43 PM

Quote :

"TV shows w/ video out. That is hot. [quote] [quote]Videos are native QVGA resolution. "

Yea boy that tv out is going to look good on those shit quality videos

Quote :

"Umm... 30 gig ipod video is 269 education priced... psp is 249 and you have to buy 15-30 dollar umd's... and memory sticks for music storage. How is the PSP drastically cheaper?"

Umm, you can put videos on the memory stick. And it's cheaper because Sony updates the psp firmware, instead of coming out with the PSP, PSP Color, PSP Video.

Quote :

"The PSP uses a cheap-ass panel. The dead pixels are everywhere. http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/03/25/news_6121092.html http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000070037508/ http://news.com.com/Sony+answers+PSP+dead-pixel+gripes/2100-1043_3-5643393.html http://palgn.com.au/article.php?id=3040 http://www.neoseeker.com/news/story/4461/ http://www.i4u.com/article3340.html http://psp.ign.com/articles/599/599185p1.html and many more ..."

Yea because you can't just return it for another one The pixels were DOA dead, so you know as soon as you turn it on. It *may* be cheap, but it's a hella lot larger than the ipod's with a higher res screen and much better refresh rate.

Quote :

"up to 3 hours of video playback"

I get around 5 on the PSP right now.


Now I will say that the downloading TV episodes for 2 bucks a pop is fucking GENIOUS. If it indeed support mp4, I will be raping those for my PSP. But the fact remains, Apple is bilking every one of you out of ANOTHER 300 bucks for a product they could have just made like this in the first place.

10/12/2005 7:23:54 PM

Quote :

"But the fact remains, Apple is bilking every one of you out of ANOTHER 300 bucks for a product they could have just made like this in the first place."

very very true. very true. ALL of the color ipods can play video RIGHT NOW if you get ipod linux. if they'd just release firmware to make color ipods play video, you'd have video.

10/12/2005 7:25:59 PM

Welcome to capitalism.

10/12/2005 7:27:47 PM

i bet that if a month from now, apple started making an ipod that functioned as a cellphone as well, all you asshats who are like "multifunction devices r dum" would eat it up.

10/12/2005 7:33:21 PM

Quote :

"so there's a new "Video" label in iTunes 6, and you can sort videos by movie, music video, TV, and podcasts (wtf)."

There have already been Video Podcasts floating around for a while.
Just small videos that are handled like podcasts - automatic updates and downloads. I've seen a couple of different ones floating around.

In iTunes 6:

Video preference down at the bottom

Quote :

"When I started iTunes, though, it told me I needed Quicktime 7.0.3 to d/l videos from the music store. I tried to update QT, but only 7.0.2 is available. But the real problem is it won't allow me to import or put any of my existing videos into the Videos section. Is that only for videos/TV downloaded from iTunes? Or is it now supposed to be a video cataloger for all your existing video? I don't imagine it has to do with not having the right version of QT."

7.0.3 is available for download now.

10/12/2005 7:35:46 PM

^^ Multifunction devices are okay as long as they perform their tasks well. It is rare that a device that tries to do everything does even one thing very well.

[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 7:38 PM. Reason : +1]

10/12/2005 7:38:19 PM

HOLY SHIT A MEDIA PLAYER THAT PLAYS VIDEO!


REVOLUTIONARY!


wooo. Combine one bug ridden program (qt) into another (itunes)

its a package for success!

[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 7:40 PM. Reason : .]

10/12/2005 7:38:32 PM

from the tech specs page:

Quote :

"Voice recording settings: Low (22.05 KHz, mono) High (44.1 KHz, stereo)"

there's been no mention of this.
where's the mic? needs an input?
if it's true, then it's about damn time.

10/12/2005 8:17:45 PM

Quote :

"But the real problem is it won't allow me to import or put any of my existing videos into the Videos section. Is that only for videos/TV downloaded from iTunes? Or is it now supposed to be a video cataloger for all your existing video? I don't imagine it has to do with not having the right version of QT.""

I've been able to get it to import some of my existing movies. It doesn't seem to accept drag-and-drop, but it will import them using the "Add to Library" option (Cmd-O).
Of course, the files have to be Quicktime playable files (mov, mpg - no wmv or real)

If you have auto-organize turned on, it places the video files inside of your regular music folder hierarchy. Seems like a very strange place for it. Metadata tags are available for the videos, so you can name the Artist and Album and Genre and all that regular stuff.

There are two options for playback - within iTunes window and in separate window.
"Within iTunes Window" will play the video in that little thing in the bottom left that's used for displaying cover art. If you click on that while it's playing, it will open up a new window for you. However, if you go back to your library and click off of the video you are playing, the separate window disappears, but the audio keeps running. I can't decide if this is a bug or a feature.
"In Separate Window" will automatically play the video in a separate window, and you can go back to your library and navigate around with no issues.



There are 2 navigation options: List View and Icon View:

10/12/2005 8:37:46 PM

Quote :

"so you're saying the audio alone is worth $0.99 to you, but by adding video it would only be worth $0.50. is that fuzzy math?"

adding video and subtracting much utility. I can play the audio on any computer/stereo/mp3 player anywhere. I can play the video on 3 machines running linked copies of itunes. I listen to music all the time but would very seldom sit and watch videos.
so yes, an audio track I would use tens/hundreds of times is worth more than a video I might watch 10-15 times ever.

10/12/2005 8:38:21 PM

but if you had one of the new ipods you could play the video wherever you went, and listen or watch when you wanted to... which I think is the idea. it's not aiming at people who are downloading music videos to watch on their machine, but people who are downloading a song for their ipod that basically has added video content as well.

10/12/2005 8:42:01 PM