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spydyrwyr
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"you cant turn benz rotors. they will fail. quit talking out your ass."


Listen, before you start talking shit to me and saying I don't know what I'm talking about, how bout you get your shit straight. I know they have a minimum thickness that is stamped on them somewhere. If they are below that then they can not be turned. Also there are 2 types of rotors. There are cast rotors and composite rotors (This is about rotors in general). Almost everyone is setup to turn the cast rotors but very few places have the CORRECT setup to turn composite rotors. And there are also ceramic rotors which cant be turned.

I'm no Benz mechanic, never claimed to be, just trying to help the guy out and you had to go and be a dickhead.

11/3/2005 11:35:53 AM

Grapehead
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im not tryin to be a dickhead.

try to find a rotor machining spec for a benz.


go mic a rotor and then compare it to the min thickness spec. youll find its equal or under.

11/3/2005 11:39:51 AM

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"why the fuck you need new brakes on a 04 mercedes? how many miles you put on the car?
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i put about 30K miles on it in the past year and a half since I bought it. i'd say 80% of the mileage was on the highway.

11/3/2005 11:45:28 AM

Grapehead
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the tire wear issue should be correctable with an alignment, but once a tire has begun a certain wear pattern, it will continue to wear in that manner, so it will need replacement.

11/3/2005 11:47:54 AM

TKE-Teg
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I find your rear brake pad replacement a little odd. In my experience rear pads usually last close to 100k.

11/3/2005 1:12:31 PM

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"the tire wear issue should be correctable with an alignment, but once a tire has begun a certain wear pattern, it will continue to wear in that manner, so it will need replacement."


In all cases? Shit.

My front tires are wearing unevenly at the outer edge, I was hoping an alignment would stop the problem. Sigh.

11/3/2005 1:21:03 PM

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^^ depends on the car. on newer vws the rear pads typically go out before or around the same time as the fronts.

[Edited on November 3, 2005 at 1:57 PM. Reason : 9]

11/3/2005 1:57:49 PM

spydyrwyr
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^^^And depends on driving style and how the car is weighted. If he commonly rides with weight in the trunk, or routinely drives fat girls around, then the rears will wear plenty. Also you never know, maybe he accidentally drove with the E-brake engaged.

11/3/2005 2:04:32 PM

esgargs
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I am pretty sure if you drive with the e-brakes engaged you're just gonna break the assembly in a few

11/3/2005 2:07:52 PM

spydyrwyr
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"I am pretty sure if you drive with the e-brakes engaged you're just gonna break the assembly in a few"


What assembly are you talking about? The e-brake/parking brake is just a method of mechanically actuating the rear brakes. The cables/linkages don't really see any loading. I've never heard of anyone breaking anything just driving with the e-brake engaged, just wears the pads or drums terribly, and stinks to high heaven.

Do you even know how brakes work?

11/3/2005 2:17:08 PM

beethead
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lol...

11/3/2005 2:19:13 PM

Amsterdam718
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i don't think esparagus knows anything about cars. he got suspended in this section before too.

keep it up sparagus.

11/3/2005 2:22:20 PM

esgargs
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ummmm dude


if you drive with your parking brakes on for a long time, you're gonna get the braking fluid boiling and it could render all brakes useles...although this is usually a temporary effect, it could need professional repair...not to mention that if his brakes failed, he'd notice it.

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"The other possibility occurs if your parking brake sticks in the “on” position, and you unintentionally drive off with the parking brake on — the hydraulic fluid in your brake system will overheat, and you’ll lose all of your brakes while you’re driving."


http://www.cars.com/carsapp/national/?srv=parser&act=display&tf=/advice/caradviser/parking_brake.tmpl

[Edited on November 3, 2005 at 2:28 PM. Reason : link]

11/3/2005 2:23:00 PM

Amsterdam718
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NOTE: i never drive fat b!tchs around in my car and seldomly is there anyone or anything in the rear sits.

11/3/2005 2:25:27 PM

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"The e-brake/parking brake is just a method of mechanically actuating the rear brakes."


It's called hydraulics.

11/3/2005 2:29:54 PM

spydyrwyr
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"It's called hydraulics"


Thank you very much. I know how brakes work!! If you READ my post you'd see that I said
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"The e-brake/parking brake is just a method of mechanically actuating the rear brakes"


Mechanically ACTUATING

ACTUATING!!

And for your information, for a safety inspection in NC, you have to have a MECHANICALLY ACTUATED parking brake. LOOK IT UP. Line locks and otherwise do not pass b/c they utilize an electric solenoid valve instead of a mechanical one.

11/3/2005 2:46:11 PM

esgargs
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yea

I am sure electrical solenoids use hydraulic brake fluid.

11/3/2005 2:48:36 PM

spydyrwyr
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oh my gosh your idiocy is really starting to annoy me. You don't even know what i'm talking about when i mentioned the line lock, do you? Once again, read before you go to typing away, I know you're racing as fast as you can towards 100,000 posts, but simmer down just a little.

A line lock is a switchable valve that is ACTUATED by an electric soleniod, that is used to trap existing pressure in the lines to lock the brakes. These systems are used supplementally on mostly on front brake systems by rock crawlers on steep inclines, racers to warm up tires, etc.

Were you a liberal arts major or something???

11/3/2005 3:00:17 PM

esgargs
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so his Mercedes uses a Line lock brake

that if he left on wouldn't mess up the entire braking system.

11/3/2005 3:01:17 PM

spydyrwyr
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oh jeez, i give up. That's not what i was saying at all. The line lock was just an example of a brake system that wouldn't pass inspection, i was stressing that it must be a mechanical system. Then you had a dumbass comment, so i explained what a line lock was, now you just need to "quit that jibba jabba!!"

11/3/2005 3:06:18 PM

esgargs
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You're the one who needs to quit that jibba jibba


We're not talking about line breaks here.

11/3/2005 3:07:04 PM

spydyrwyr
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I bet your own stupdity sometimes amazes yourself. Sorry for the hijack, i'm done.

11/3/2005 3:56:13 PM

TKE-Teg
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Wow, he trolled the hell out of you!

11/3/2005 4:10:32 PM

spydyrwyr
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Perhaps, but my money is on the fact that he's just that stupid. Maybe I have a thing for arguing with brick walls

11/3/2005 4:19:44 PM

esgargs
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yea you're right

you proved me wrong about how a hydraulic parking brake works.

[Edited on November 3, 2005 at 4:36 PM. Reason : .]

11/3/2005 4:28:06 PM

MattJM321
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wow is he kidding?

esgargs, the idea of a parking brake is a system that is completely mechanical, as in it bypasses the hydraulic system in case of failure.

11/3/2005 6:24:45 PM

esgargs
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jesus dude


you're telling me that the parking brake has different brake pads?

11/3/2005 6:27:25 PM

MattJM321
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no, the lever you use in your mustang is actually a stick that drags the ground.

11/3/2005 6:33:37 PM

esgargs
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I suggest you raise a car and take a look at how mechanical it is.

11/3/2005 6:34:14 PM

MattJM321
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i suggest you replace you own pads/rotors/drums and then come back and talk to us.

11/3/2005 6:36:39 PM

esgargs
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I suggest you link me to technical information that says that the parking break is independent of the actual braking system.

11/3/2005 6:37:28 PM

MattJM321
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for christ's sake (as you use the term you dirty indian)

google it dot head http://autorepair.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=autorepair&zu=http%3A%2F%2Flibrary.thinkquest.org%2F19199%2Fjava%2Fadvanced%2Fbrakes%2Fparkbrak.htm

11/3/2005 6:42:13 PM

esgargs
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Jesus

nigger

Cracker

whatever


It uses the same fucking actual mechanism as normal breaks.

So IF YOU DRIVE WITH YOUR PARKING BRAKES ON

YOU WILL HEAT THE HYDRAULIC FLUID

IS THIS CONCEPT SO HARD TO GRASP

YOU CALL YOURSELF A MECHANIC

11/3/2005 6:46:58 PM

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"In cars with rear drum brakes, the emergency brake typically uses the same mechanism. In cars with rear disc brakes, the emergency brake most often actuates the same system, but sometimes (in the Mazda RX-5 and its twin the Cosmo, for instance) actuates a small drum brake housed within the hub assembly."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_brake


nigga

11/3/2005 6:48:21 PM

MattJM321
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double post.

so what are you arguing for here?

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"I am pretty sure if you drive with the e-brakes engaged you're just gonna break the assembly in a few"


what assembly..the drums or calipers?

then you said

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""The e-brake/parking brake is just a method of mechanically actuating the rear brakes."


It's called hydraulics."


So now you are saying that parking brakes work by hydraulics?

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"It uses the same fucking actual mechanism as normal breaks.

So IF YOU DRIVE WITH YOUR PARKING BRAKES ON

YOU WILL HEAT THE HYDRAULIC FLUID

IS THIS CONCEPT SO HARD TO GRASP

YOU CALL YOURSELF A MECHANIC

"


parking brakes (on all normal cars) work with out hydraulic fluid. dumb half ngr

[Edited on November 3, 2005 at 6:59 PM. Reason : never called myself a mechanic]

11/3/2005 6:58:28 PM

esgargs
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IT WILL BREAK YOUR BRAKES

TRY IT MOTHERFUCKER

11/3/2005 6:59:10 PM

MattJM321
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haha he's all pissed

11/3/2005 6:59:52 PM

esgargs
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I CAN SEE HOW PISSED I GET WHEN I AM SO RIGHT

11/3/2005 7:00:14 PM

esgargs
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"parking brakes (on all normal cars) work with out hydraulic fluid. dumb half ngr"


log off right now.

11/3/2005 7:01:14 PM

MattJM321
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right about what? you were wrong when you thought parking brakes use hydraulic fluid

11/3/2005 7:03:59 PM

JBaz
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how bout you try it and post the results here.

11/3/2005 7:04:47 PM

esgargs
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NIGGER

I SAID THAT DRIVING WITH PARKING BRAKES ON WILL MESS UP YOUR BRAKING SYSTEM


PROVE ME WRONG

11/3/2005 7:05:13 PM

esgargs
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"how bout you try it and post the results here."


How about I drive into you at 55 mph?

11/3/2005 7:05:39 PM

MattJM321
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dorks of the garage unite!

11/3/2005 7:08:33 PM

esgargs
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i win

11/3/2005 7:10:19 PM

MattJM321
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""The e-brake/parking brake is just a method of mechanically actuating the rear brakes."


It's called hydraulics."


no its not called hydraulics you dirty beaner

11/3/2005 7:11:40 PM

esgargs
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listen motherfucker


you can catch my one mistake and backpedal all you want

11/3/2005 7:12:17 PM

MattJM321
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alright next mistake

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"I suggest you link me to technical information that says that the parking break is independent of the actual braking system."

11/3/2005 7:13:25 PM

esgargs
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and it's not

They use the same ACTUAL mechanism

11/3/2005 7:14:02 PM

MattJM321
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ok, if by a mechanism you mean friction? then yes esgargs all brakes use friction to stop.

boiling your brake fluid is not going break the drum,caliper and/or rotor. it will make air bubbles in the fluid.

11/3/2005 7:16:15 PM

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