^^^^ We didn't have an easy schedule last season.......

[Edited on November 27, 2005 at 2:08 PM. Reason : ]

11/27/2005 2:08:32 PM

if he had no regrets, he wouldnt be complaining about it. at least unc has a coach that embodies his school motto: if you cant win, whine about it.

11/27/2005 2:09:00 PM

^ We have a winner


UNC, in a box, folks. If you win, brag. If you dont win, whine and blame it on everyone else.

11/27/2005 2:12:05 PM

^^^what got you to a bowl last year?

UNC last year
William and Mary (cupcake)
GT (ok, but not that great)
NCST (Shitty)
Miami (Only good win)
Wake (Shitty)
Duke (Shitty)

so you had one good win, maybe two if you count GT

NCST this year
EKU (cupcake)
GT (Started off good, still decent)
USM (decent)
FSU (Good win)
MTSU (Shitty)
Mary (decent)

looks very similiar if you ask me.

11/27/2005 2:25:29 PM

Thanks PackBacker. At least Mr. Lucas followed up with this:

Quote :

"But even playing the schedule the Tar Heels were dealt, there were enough chances to earn a spot in the postseason. There were plays here, plays there, that will linger in the offseason. Missed catches and missed tackles and missed blocks."

So true. They had chances to win games against the teams they lost to. Georgia Tech (lost by 6), Wisconsin (down only 7-3 with 6 minutes left in the game), Miami (up 16-7 at half), Maryland (lost in OT at home), and Virginia Tech (down only 6-3 at half). The fact of the matter is that they just couldn't finish these games out strongly. Hell, if they did, maybe they would be 8-3. So, if I was Bunting, I wouldn't try to find excuses like that.

11/27/2005 2:28:25 PM

^^ Oh cmon, that's incredibly misleading. We can only choose the non-conference opponents on our schedule, which were Utah, Louisville, and William Mary. Utah was undefeated and Louisville lost only one game. Sure, William and Mary was a cupcake but one game hardly accounts for a weak schedule.

11/27/2005 2:37:07 PM

yeah . . . maybe i was off a little on the weak schedule part. But the point was how each got to a bowl.


^^and you could say that about almost any team including NCST, UNC, FSU, . . .. Oh, a few bad passes here and there, a few dropped balls, a few untimely penalties, etc . . .

The point is that those are mistakes and good teams don't make those mistakes. That is why they win.

[Edited on November 27, 2005 at 2:41 PM. Reason : ]

11/27/2005 2:39:33 PM

they just barely pulled out a win against william and mary last year and counted it towards their bowl eligibility

11/27/2005 2:42:14 PM

Quote :

"wolfAApack, You applied to UNC didn't you....and you got rejected.... ahh, one of those. PackBacker and DaveOT, nice comparison, clearly the schedules weren't that different. Let's just be happy for our team for once. Although 6-5 isn't a "great" year... they turned their season around, winning 4 of the last 5. Not to mention a "winning" record. Good job guys. "

What is your fucking point here? I made a comment in the thread correcting some stupid assumption. I am happy for the team, I never said I wasnt. I've been pulling like hell for them all damn season, even at 2-4.

Oh and BTW, I did apply to UNC, you're right. I also was accepted. OOPS I guess I have to correct another stupid assumption. Thanks though. Now go kill yourself.

11/27/2005 2:53:43 PM

Quote :

"If I remember correctly, all of their other QB's are really young and have taken very very few snaps... if any"

joe dailey started a full season at nebraska, so he's more than likely the new starter

11/27/2005 3:08:53 PM

Quote :

"WF Wisc ( slight edge Wisc )"

Slight edge? SLIGHT?

You have got to be shitting me.

What football are you watching that Wisconsin is a slightly better team than Wake?

Just because we lost to Wake Forest doesn't mean they're all of a sudden comparable to a constantly ranked team.

Quote :

"FSU (Good win)"

FSU hasn't played a game worth a shit for the last 3 weeks. Comparing our win against them this year, to UNC's win against Miami last year is ridiculous.

[Edited on November 27, 2005 at 3:25 PM. Reason : .]

11/27/2005 3:22:57 PM

Charlotte Observer taking pot shots as well:

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"• Before Wolfpack fans get too giddy about being bowl eligible, let's remind them that N.C. State scheduled Eastern Kentucky, Southern Mississippi and Middle Tennessee. It would have taken a bad team to finish with a losing record with that nonconference schedule."

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/sports/colleges/13266530.htm

11/27/2005 3:24:50 PM

that is a lie though we didnt "schedule" them

we played them after teams we did schedule backed out

11/27/2005 3:42:47 PM

They magically appeared on our schedule.

11/27/2005 3:47:10 PM

Quote :

"joe dailey started a full season at nebraska, so he's more than likely the new starter"

Ahh... that's right. I forgot about that transfer from Nebby. I knew I had never heard that name being recruited by UNC when you said it.

Well, we'll see how good this guy is.

Quote :

"Slight edge? SLIGHT? You have got to be shitting me. What football are you watching that Wisconsin is a slightly better team than Wake? Just because we lost to Wake Forest doesn't mean they're all of a sudden comparable to a constantly ranked team."

ehe.. point taken. I guess I kinda wrote that a little fast. The Badgers still aren't world beaters this year, but yes, they're better than Wake.

[Edited on November 27, 2005 at 4:05 PM. Reason : asdfa]

11/27/2005 4:03:31 PM

Let's not forget that WE have a QB from Nebraska coming in next year too. We got #2 on their depth chart; UNC got #3. I had forgotten about this guy until this weekend.

http://www.redandwhitefromstate.com/article.php/20051026085003527

11/27/2005 4:09:52 PM

hey guys, guess who's going to a bowl and who isn't...

11/27/2005 4:13:38 PM

^^Is he gonna play?


I thought he was rasslin' only?

11/27/2005 4:14:35 PM

well the article appears to be from today, and it implies that he will play

11/27/2005 4:15:38 PM

Eh, didn't read it.


I figured it was the old article from way back when he announced his transfer here. Guess I should look before asking


What's up with NC State and prettyboy QB's

11/27/2005 4:18:22 PM

the actual article about him:

Quote :

"A Goodman For The Jobs The Wolfpack received a boost on both the football field and the wrestling mat when Ryan Goodman transferred to NC State from Nebraska Oct. 26, 2005 RALEIGH, N.C. - Like most college kids, Ryan Goodman has dreams. While the two-sport standout from New Jersey set multiple high school records in wrestling, his dreams were huddled elsewhere. That's because Goodman, who started at quarterback for his high school, aspires to play under center in the NFL. Goodman thought he had the dream within his grasp when he signed with Nebraska out of high school. The Cornhuskers agreed to let Ryan continue his wrestling career while also giving him the opportunity to play football. Goodman quickly made his presence known in both sports. As a redshirt freshman at Nebraska, Goodman posted a 6-0 record in unattached matches in wrestling, while working himself up to the No. 2 quarterback on the gridiron. Just when everything seemed to be falling into place for Goodman, the Nebraska coaches told him that he would be moving to safety. Goodman, was hurt by the decision, and said the decision to transfer first formulated when he heard the word safety. "I just couldn't accept it in my mind how a No. 2 quarterback could be moved to safety," Goodman said. Wanting to continue playing quarterback as well as continue wrestling, Goodman decided to reopen his recruitment. After taking a second look at schools like Iowa, Virginia, and Maryland, Goodman was told to take a look at NC State by an assistant wrestling coach from his high school. When NC State wrestling coach Carter Jordan first got wind of Goodman's interest in his wrestling program, he knew he had an advantage on most other schools vying for Goodman's talents -- Chuck Amato. The Wolfpack's head football coach had wrestled two undefeated seasons for the Pack in 1966 and 1968, and frequently attended the Pack's home meets. Knowing Goodman's desire to play both sports, Jordan said the Amato factor helped out "big time" in landing Goodman's services. "The fact that Chuck wrestled was what got us in the ball game [with Ryan]," Jordan said. "Chuck is a big fan of the sport and there's a good synergy there -- we love him; he's great for our sport." After two recruiting trips to Raleigh, Goodman signed with NC State. Although Goodman is on scholarship for wrestling this year, Jordan said he realized Ryan's dream was to play football. "The biggest thing we tried to impart to Ryan was that we were going to honor his desire to play football, whether that would be detrimental to us or not," Jordan said. "I think, sometimes, it sounds corny, but we all have dreams. Ryan's dream is to be an NFL quarterback, and I don't think there are many people that have their chance to have their cake and eat it too." Goodman, who must sit out the 2005 football season because of NCAA transfer rules, is on a wrestling scholarship for the 2005-06 school year, and has been working out part-time with the wrestling team since practice began in mid-October. Jordan hopes to have Goodman, who will be on football scholarship once he becomes eligible to play a year from now, full-time with the wrestling team when football season concludes. Goodman figures to be the Wolfpack's starter at 197, which became vacant when Zach Garren transferred to Rowan University, ironically, to play football. Jordan said that although Goodman would have to make the transition from football shape to wrestling shape, that Amato's wrestling background causes him to train and condition players with wrestling techniques. Goodman agreed that being a wrestler has helped him on the football field. "I think wrestling helps with any sport," Goodman said. "You've got to be smart, you've got to strategize, and you've got to stay on your toes." Though Goodman may joke with Jordan about his commitment to wrestling, his determination on the mat is no laughing matter. Goodman was a two-time New Jersey state champion at 189 pounds and compiled a 72-match win streak - good enough to earn him All-America honors. When asked what his goals were as a Wolfpack wrestler, Goodman immediately responded "a national championship" without blinking an eye. "That's not shooting high, that's shooting where everyone should be shooting," Goodman said. "I'm not just shooting for a win, because I want to win everything." Goodman, who rooms with fellow Wolfpack grapplers Jeremy Colbert and Jalil Dozier, also has high aspirations for his new team. He said the team has their sites set on an ACC championship. "We're a young team, and the younger you are, the more imaginative you are," Goodman said. "We have a great group of kids, and their dreams are just as big as mine." Jordan is thrilled to have Goodman suiting up for the Pack this year -- not just because of his talent, but because of the attitude he's instilling in the wrestlers around him. "[Goodman] has already changed, and will continue to change the mentality of everyone around him," Jordan said. "Enthusiasm will saturate everywhere around you." Jordan said that in order to be the best, you have to first believe it to be possible. In Goodman, he has a wrestler who's making others believe in themselves. "We've got very talented kids," Jordan said. "They've just got to give themselves permission to competitive with the other guys. It's one thing for the coaches to try and do that, but when your peers adopt that mentality, and buy into to what the coaches are saying, and then work as hard as you possibly can, then you really do have a chance to compete with anybody." "

http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-wrestl/stories/102605aac.html

There was an article about him in the Technician not too long ago.

11/27/2005 4:19:38 PM

Why is this thread 2 pages?

We're bowl bound

They're not

End of story

11/27/2005 4:20:59 PM

So just to clarify…. It was Matt Baker that said everything and not John Bunting
right? I was having a hard time believing a coach would take a personal shot at a
team like that. Anyways, people can talk all they want because we all know we struggled this year, but in the end our guys didn’t give up and we had a better season than UNC.

11/27/2005 4:23:49 PM

There's really no point making the argument anyway. State was supposed to play Temple and Louisville and didn't for reasons beyond their control. Besides, UNC was crap last year and got exposed in their bowl game for it. If the same happens to NC State, then you can tout the easy schedule. [/thread]

11/27/2005 4:44:44 PM

Quote :

"I was having a hard time believing a coach would take a personal shot at a team like that."

Are you kidding? Do you read the papers?



He's referred to Amato as "The Clown" in the News and Disturber before. He says "We make tough schedules, unlike that school up the road"..etc,etc.

11/27/2005 4:47:11 PM

sdf


Even if it was Matt Baker, it doesn't matter. They're basically admitting that their team was too shitty to compete with Louisville and Wisconson.

[Edited on November 27, 2005 at 4:53 PM. Reason : ^beat me to it]

11/27/2005 4:53:05 PM

Quote :

" But even playing the schedule the Tar Heels were dealt, there were enough chances to earn a spot in the postseason."

I didn't know the ACC randomly dealt the teams we play.

11/27/2005 6:51:06 PM

^ he is probably talking about the fact that not every ACC team played eached other this year so upon adding Miami, Boston College and V Tech there was no way for any ACC team to know ahead of time who all of their ACC opponents would be until the ACC dealt the schedule.

11/27/2005 7:24:31 PM

Quote :

"They're basically admitting that their team was too shitty to compete with Louisville and Wisconson."

There's nothing terribly embarassing about losing to Louisville and Wisconsin.

And it was really only Louisville that they couldn't compete with.

11/27/2005 7:26:48 PM

Its still a cop out, no matter how you look at it. They may very well have lost to Southern Miss also. I doubt they would have had trouble with MTSU though.

11/27/2005 7:35:26 PM

I should save all the anti-State comments that Bunting makes

to bring out the next time someone from UNC tries to say "oh, we're not rivals!" (which will be the next time they lose to us).

11/27/2005 7:37:25 PM

yeah, they pull that card when it isn't beneficial for them to beat us.

11/27/2005 7:41:46 PM

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/Internet/toughest schedule/ia_9games_cumm.pdf

11/27/2005 10:43:36 PM

Interesting Notre Dame #63 with 2 losses. Yeah they deserve a BCS bowl.

11/27/2005 11:20:17 PM

Something else I remembered today...

UNC had the worst loss in the entire history of their program this year (Louisville)

and now they want a prize for this season?

11/28/2005 8:12:48 AM

carolina's 6th and we're 21st big whopp .... 21 out of 117 is still pretty high :x

11/28/2005 11:05:18 AM

Did anybody mention that we beat two teams UNC wasn't able to beat, and one team that they most likely wouldn't have beaten? That's right, and I'd hope it was up there somewheres, because that's the bottom fucking line.

I'm sick, goddamned sick of those whiney cry babies predictably coming through on shit like this.

Well, you can take a stab all you want, but the bottom line is that we have another out of conference game to prove it doesn't take a weak schedule to make our team look good these days, and don't forget that every poll in the country has us ranked about 20 spots over the fucking faggot tar holes.

And ps, I don't know the credibility of the thread-starting statement here, but I seriously wouldn't put it past puppy eyed Bunting to say some shit like that. If I ever see that bastard in person he's gonna know how I feel about his stupid ass.

11/28/2005 11:15:19 AM

hey guys

we have a perfect opportunity to really piss them off.

if we win our bowl game

...
...

...


lets have another parade!


scrumps: hang out at the park place movie theatre. Apparently the team goes there to watch movies.

[Edited on November 28, 2005 at 11:18 AM. Reason : .]

11/28/2005 11:17:33 AM

hahaha

11/28/2005 11:19:50 AM

Quote :

"WE SCHEDULED REAL TEAMS. They dropped us for a variety of scheduling reasons."

Yea true with UofL. Although I'm not sure if we played them at the point of the year we were scheduled to that would have been pretty. However, the other team that dropped, Temple, was replaced my MTSU, which was FAR better then Temple.

Oh and Bunting is a moron for bringing that up. Sounds like sour grapes..

11/28/2005 11:23:52 AM

I bet Vanderbilt wishes MTSU wasn't on their schedule.

11/28/2005 11:28:44 AM

it wasn't fucking bunting who said it, it was baker. he's graduating, so he probably doesn't give a shit

11/28/2005 11:38:41 AM

Matthew D Baker

Classification Senior

Dept Economics

baker3@xmail.xnc.edx

Telephone 248-364-XXXX


https://www-s3.ais.unc.edu/campus_dir/search.jsp

11/28/2005 11:43:46 AM

OK, I just need to get this out. I understand the whole Louisville, Va Tech non-conf. schedule. But to keep using TEMPLE as a example of a good team we've scheduled is a little bit crazy.

This is the same winless or nearly-winless team that exists right now, right?

Temple didn't win a few conference championships when no one was looking, did they?

The argument is still true. We scheduled VT and L-ville for non-conf. opponents, which would have been a respectable OOC at the VERY least.

11/28/2005 12:02:52 PM

I just emailed him wishing him happy holidays

11/28/2005 12:12:52 PM

Didn't Goodman get cut?

11/28/2005 12:17:44 PM

i dont know, but the article is from yesterday. you'd think they'd mention it if he was cut.

11/28/2005 12:26:10 PM

Isn't Matt Baker from Wisconsin?

11/28/2005 12:28:02 PM

Nah, Baker's from Mich.

11/28/2005 1:32:58 PM

here's ur email sir

Quote :

"I appreciate your kind words towards the NCSU football team, and I want to wish you a happy winter break, where you'll have more time than even Jay Davis to belittle our program while somehow making inference as to how it affects your 5 and 6 record this year. Best of luck in the future and I hope the NFL scouts keep a keen, hard eye on your overall football talent. PS you're a doucher. Enjoy being on the field over Christmas break... on a fucking Xbox. "

11/28/2005 1:39:34 PM