The Kurds were gassed back in 1988. Where was the outrage back then?

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"On February 15, 1991, the first President Bush called on the Iraqi people and military to overthrow Saddam Hussein. The Shiites made the mistake of believing he meant it. Three days after the first Gulf War ended, on March 2, 1991, a Shiite rebellion began in Basra and quickly spread to the southern reaches of Baghdad. Then Saddam counterattacked with great ferocity. Three hundred thousand Shiites ultimately died. Not only did the elder President Bush not help, his administration refused even to hear the pleas of the more and more desperate Shiites."

Why would the Shi'ites trust us? Why would the Sunnis trust us? Iraq is going to devolve into a civil war, with our without our troops.

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12/1/2005 12:47:56 AM

Did trikk311 cut and run?

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12/1/2005 9:43:38 PM

i dont think they show enough people that actually like us being there, instead its usually the terrorists

12/1/2005 9:55:44 PM

^And how would that lead to our "complete victory" in Iraq?

12/2/2005 8:00:03 AM

Daily Show: Colbert Report: Stop asking for Bush's plan, senators. He clearly doesn't have one
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2005/301105perspective.htm

12/2/2005 8:04:06 AM

Is this how the victory strategic plan is supposed to look?

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"BAGHDAD, Iraq -- A roadside bomb in Fallujah killed 10 U.S. Marines and wounded 11 others, the U.S. military said Friday in the deadliest single attack against American forces in Iraq in nearly four months. Thursday's bomb struck a patrol from Regimental Combat Team 8 of the 2nd Marine Division, the Marine Corps said. The bomb was made from several large artillery shells, the Marines said."

That's a lot of Marineburger.

12/2/2005 11:57:49 AM

^^

that show is run by jews you idiot....there goes your whole theory

12/2/2005 12:04:10 PM

^^I'm sure there are better ways to attack the "victory" strategy plan than pointing out that the opposing force isn't intent on following our plans.

12/2/2005 12:16:26 PM

Refocusing:

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"VICTORY IN IRAQ DEFINED In the short term: An Iraq that is making steady progress in fighting terrorists and neutralizing the insurgency, meeting political milestones; building democratic institutions; standing up robust security forces to gather intelligence, destroy terrorist networks, and maintain security; and tackling key economic reforms to lay the foundation for a sound economy. In the medium term: An Iraq that is in the lead defeating terrorists and insurgents and providing its own security, with a constitutional, elected government in place, providing an inspiring example to reformers in the region, and well on its way to achieving its economic potential. In the longer term: An Iraq that has defeated the terrorists and neutralized the insurgency. An Iraq that is peaceful, united, stable, democratic, and secure, where Iraqis have the institutions and resources they need to govern themselves justly and provide security for their country. An Iraq that is a partner in the global war on terror and the fight against the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, integrated into the international community, an engine for regional economic growth, and proving the fruits of democratic governance to the region. "

How long you figure that will take, given the makeup of Iraq? There's the Shi'ite Islamic fundamentalists in the south, Sunnis in the middle [who persecuted and killed 100s of thousands of Shi'ites under Saddam]and the Kurds in the north [who were gassed by the Saddam's Sunnis]

How are we going to train troops, if our soldiers know how read/speak arabic?

Quote :

"On February 15, 1991, the first President Bush called on the Iraqi people and military to overthrow Saddam Hussein. The Shiites made the mistake of believing he meant it. Three days after the first Gulf War ended, on March 2, 1991, a Shiite rebellion began in Basra and quickly spread to the southern reaches of Baghdad. Then Saddam counterattacked with great ferocity. Three hundred thousand Shiites ultimately died. Not only did the elder President Bush not help, his administration refused even to hear the pleas of the more and more desperate Shiites."

Why would the Shi'ites trust us? Why would the Sunnis trust us? Iraq is going to devolve into a civil war, with our without our troops.


The Civil War in our country was almost 150 years ago, and people are still upset over it. If New York had slaughtered 300,000 North Carolinians 20 years ago, do you think they'd hold a grudge? Especially if it were Jewish New Yorkers killing Christian Southerners?

12/6/2005 11:16:44 PM

If the first President Bush had been a democrat would you still be bitching like a little girl with a skinned knee?

12/7/2005 2:21:48 AM