What a disturbing universe.

12/2/2005 4:00:22 PM

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"He did not make a 'mistake', he took 2 lives. Those 2 people never got to see their kids again, never got to enjoy another holiday, sunset, or anything else because of this man's selfishness. A mistake is perhaps a typo in a reply, a bill mailed late, or even a speeding ticket. But murder is NEVER a mistake. "

I agree, but what is "murder"? Is the gov. killing someone not murder? Does killing this guy really do any good, other than show how primitive we are?

12/2/2005 4:09:13 PM

Some superintelligent monkey-like creature slides some metal into your vein and injects a few substances that ultimately kill you.

Sounds like murder to me.

12/2/2005 4:12:25 PM

shoulda thought about that before you murdered some other superintelligent monkey-like creature

[Edited on December 2, 2005 at 4:33 PM. Reason : *]

12/2/2005 4:32:44 PM

Oh, I wasn't arguing whether or not it was deserved.

12/2/2005 4:40:04 PM

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"They aren't protesting his guilt, they are protesting the government executing people. It may make them look stupid to you, but you look just as stupid."

Did you not see what I said regarding that quote, asshat?

If you're going to speak out for your cause, you shouldn't sound ignorant as hell of the subject matter when you do it. Period. She didn't just look stupid to me, she looked stupid to everybody.

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"shouldn't you be happy that "justice" is being served?"

I am happy that justice was served. I'm not happy that justice necessitated a killing, and I'm not happy that the man put himself in that position, and I'm not happy that his two victims are dead.

I am repelled by killing in and of itself, but that does not mean that I fail to see the occasional necessity of it.

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"He looks the way he is. "

Sir, it is known that you are; the question remains as to what I am.

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"To paraphrase Blackstone - Better to let 10 walk then imprison the 1 innocent."

This is foolishness. Do you think those ten people are going to be model citizens for the rest of their days?

12/2/2005 5:37:20 PM

so you are willing to sacrifice one individual?

you have fucked up priorites.

12/2/2005 6:19:26 PM

necessity, yeah, that's it.

12/2/2005 7:06:20 PM

Gee, am I willing to sacrifice one innocent to save two?

Let me think about that...

Uh, yeah.

12/3/2005 2:00:07 AM

Two Wrongs = One Right.

12/3/2005 2:13:04 AM

I mean, that hit the nail on the head.

12/3/2005 2:24:38 AM

I really don't care that much about the death penalty. The ones that get put to death would likely spend the rest of their lives in prison otherwise, so it doesn't affect me either way.

I don't have an ounce of sympathy for convicted murderers, but at the same time I don't get any gratification from harsh punishments to those offenders. Lock 'em away forever or stick a needle in 'em, it makes no difference to me as long as they keep the costs down. Maybe we should outsource our prisons to india as a way of saving money

12/3/2005 2:28:59 AM

I suppose rolling eyes are a nice way to tap dance around the fact that it summarizes your position entirely.

12/3/2005 2:47:45 AM

Have you read anything I"ve said about the death penalty here or elsewhere?

12/3/2005 2:58:41 AM

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"Personally I think that we as a legal system from the cops up need to work harder in the first place and then cut the number of appeals because overall I think its a waste of money there too."

Isn't throwing money at the legal system the only way we can improve it without totally overhauling it? Money is the essence of "work harder," so working harder is not going to save taxpayers' money.

And, appeals are not a waste of money if you don't want to execute innocents. People will put up with innocents being locked away more than they will put up with innocents being killed. A good example is Illinois, which released 13 death row inmates due to appeals after initial conviction, and in that same time period only executed 12 people. So Illinois would have killed twice as many, over half of them innocent, if not for the exhaustive, expensive appeals process. Hence their moratorium on the death penalty in 2000 -- quite a money-saver.
http://www.amnestyusa.org/abolish/factsinnocence.html

[Edited on December 3, 2005 at 9:03 AM. Reason : more info]

12/3/2005 9:00:44 AM