Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
cause i was claiming it as my own
[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 2:41 PM. Reason : pg2 thought you were dumb enough to think i was serious] 12/13/2005 2:41:44 PM |
JennMc All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
TDS is not a news program. Its satire. I loved the time John Stewart was on CNN with the Bowtie guy. They kept arguing about the bias and Stewart kept saying WE ARE ON THE COMEDY CHANNEL. Granted, a lot of Americans get their news from the program, but they do not gather their opinions from the jokes that are being made.
Everyone claims there is a liberal bias in education and the news. However, no one ever offers concrete proof of this bias. Actually, someone did a study that investigated all the reporting of Gore and Bush in the 2000 election. There was double the bad press for Gore than there was for Bush. If that means anything, its that there is a conservative bias in the media. Three weeks ago, when the CA congressman resigned for Embezzlement, you had to scroll to the very bottom of the article to find out he was a Republican. If they media is so biased, would they not have included his party in the title?
Just because you don't like the contents or the object of the information, does not mean its biased.
[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 3:15 PM. Reason : d] 12/13/2005 3:10:06 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
that idiot is named tucker carlson. 12/13/2005 3:16:04 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "a lot of Americans get their news from the program, but they do not gather their opinions from the jokes that are being made." |
so if you watch fox you will be biased towards the right, cnn you will be bias towards the left
but if you get your news from TDS youre immune to having your opinions influenced?12/13/2005 3:17:09 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BECAUSE ITS COMEDY
by definition, its not a serious factual news cast and 99% of us know that.
[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 3:20 PM. Reason : 0] 12/13/2005 3:17:44 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
again
the point is miles above your head.
the fact that its COMEDY DOESNT FUCKING MATTER
IF THATS YOUR SOURCE FOR NEWS IT IS GOING TO EFFECT YOUR OPINIONS. 12/13/2005 3:24:55 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
look, the real point is they make fun of bush, and it's popular
so it's bad
THAT'S IT, THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT
THAT'S THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE GIVE A SHIT ABOUT A SHOW ON COMEDY CENTRAL
[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 3:29 PM. Reason : .] 12/13/2005 3:27:00 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
^^
your belief in that doesnt change the fact that if people gave a fuck about news and not jokes they wouldnt be using TDS as their source.
[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 3:30 PM. Reason : -] 12/13/2005 3:30:14 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
So what if the Daily Show influences people's opinions? 12/13/2005 3:31:11 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
^^thats fine
we arent talking about people who can take TDS with a grain of salt
we're talking about the people to use it as a news source.
[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 3:33 PM. Reason : *] 12/13/2005 3:32:10 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
Through no fault of the show. 12/13/2005 3:32:45 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
^^who are those people?
nobody uses TDS as a source for news. many polls report people hear about news on TDS, but thats only becuase their lives are devoid of news aside from TDS becuase they dont give a fuck.
[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 3:33 PM. Reason : -] 12/13/2005 3:33:34 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
^^i dont have a problem with the show. jesus its like you people dont read.
Quote : | "So what if the Daily Show influences people's opinions?" |
Quote : | "nobody uses TDS as a source for news." |
[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 3:35 PM. Reason : there arent enough in the world]12/13/2005 3:34:16 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
Why the eye roll? 12/13/2005 3:35:51 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
^^i have no clue what thats suppose to mean.
[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 3:36 PM. Reason : 7] 12/13/2005 3:36:33 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
If you dont see the problem with people letting TDS influence their opinions
then
^ i was rolling my eyes at both of your comments.
[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 3:37 PM. Reason : *] 12/13/2005 3:37:17 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
You realize cartoons influence opinions, too...right? 12/13/2005 3:37:39 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
^ whose?
yours? b/c they dont influence mine. 12/13/2005 3:38:14 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
Hahaha...so you grew up without Saturday morning moral plays? Must've sucked being deprived. 12/13/2005 3:38:52 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
everything influences opinions on some level....news...comedy...art 12/13/2005 3:39:02 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
man you guys like streeeeeeeeeeetching irrelevant points to try to somehow make yours stronger dont you. 12/13/2005 3:41:40 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
Please explain (with words if possible) what's wrong with the Daily Show influencing people's opinions. 12/13/2005 3:43:34 PM |
EhSteve All American 7240 Posts user info edit post |
having an opinion about something because it was brought to your attention on a daily fake news and comedy show is a lot better than not caring enough to be informed about it at all. 12/13/2005 3:43:42 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
^^
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Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
Its a fucking COMEDY show. Its satire. Not to be taken seriously.
Use a legit source to get information about a topic like npr, fox, cnn, msnbc, newspapers, etc
You shouldnt let a comedy show influence your policital stance on something because the show's goal is to make something appear silly or funny, not to report factually on a topic.
Quote : | "having an opinion about something because it was brought to your attention on a daily fake news and comedy show is a lot better than not caring enough to be informed about it at all." |
debatable. I would rather you shut the fuck up than spout off something about a topic you heard on a comedy show.
now if you heard about it on the comedy show, then went and read about it from other sources who arent trying to get a laugh i have no problem
[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 3:51 PM. Reason : *]12/13/2005 3:49:44 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
So, let's say for instance that I hadn't heard about Ted Stevens vicious defense of the $250 million bridge to nowhere until I watched the Daily Show. What would be wrong with letting their report on the matter influence me to think that Ted Stevens is a pork-barreling piece of shit?
Are we not to let political cartoons influence our opinions either? After all they are COMEDY and often SATIRE to boot.
[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 3:51 PM. Reason : ...] 12/13/2005 3:49:50 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
^^If jokes could sway public opinions effectively, a comedian would be in the white house.
and if they can, its still is fine, most people find truth in comedy. you know....the whole seinfeld phenomenon.
[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 3:53 PM. Reason : -] 12/13/2005 3:51:28 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What would be wrong with letting their report on the matter influence me to think that Ted Stevens is a pork-barreling piece of shit?" |
if youre so stupid as to let a comedy show determine your stance on something like that, then god help you
Quote : | "Are we not to let political cartoons influence our opinions either? After all they are COMEDY and often SATIRE to boot." |
i fucking HATE political cartoons. they dumb down a topic to the cartoonists view and try to make you laugh..
sound familiar?
This was fun guys, im off work now so no more posts from me
[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 3:55 PM. Reason : *]12/13/2005 3:53:00 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
You really ought to try answering the questions that you quote. Otherwise, others might wonder why you quoted them at all.
Absolutely. Sounds like all cable news.
[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 3:54 PM. Reason : ...]12/13/2005 3:54:12 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
I just dont know what kind of a partisan pretzel you need to be to try and claim that comedians shouldnt be allowed to do a parody/satire show on the topic of politics just a becuase a popular one is liberal.
[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 3:57 PM. Reason : -] 12/13/2005 3:56:50 PM |
EhSteve All American 7240 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "now if you heard about it on the comedy show, then went and read about it from other sources who arent trying to get a laugh i have no problem" |
That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. At least combining the news with comedy lets you hear about the news while you're being entertained.
You're still uninformed, but at least you know what you're uninformed about.12/13/2005 3:58:38 PM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He actually believes that there are genetically engineered chickens with no heads... it was the work of "big business" to produce chicken meat with less work. Of course, he read it on the internet. He thinks the Daily Show is the most legit source for news, period. I don't think he's even heard of Reuters to have an opinion on their service. He's like the evil twin of the 68 year old widow of a former Navy officer who leads the SilverFox group at her Southern Baptist church." |
a.) anecdotal evidence - one example. b.) perhaps you should get your cousin some books for "the holidays"12/13/2005 4:35:11 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
^ he made him up. nobody is that stupid. 12/13/2005 5:10:02 PM |
1337 b4k4 All American 10033 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^ he made him up. nobody is that stupid." |
Having spent the last week and a half answering phones for holiday shoppers I can attest to the existance of people that stupid. A frighteningly large number of such people. And an even more frightening number who live in NC.12/13/2005 5:37:34 PM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
not that surprising given the number of people who dont or only graduate highschool in our beautiful public school system (especially in the south). 12/13/2005 5:43:41 PM |
msb2ncsu All American 14033 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "a.) anecdotal evidence - one example. b.) perhaps you should get your cousin some books for "the holidays"" |
Anecdotal, I know, but still offers a taste of what there is out there (and someone who will be counted in the "college graduate" category in the near future). I'm not buying him shit, gotta keep my elitist role.
Watch a few seconds of Leno's Jay Walking, open your ears at the DMV, or simply walk to the mall and talk to someone... people really are that stupid... most people, it seems.
Quote : | "^ he made him up. nobody is that stupid." |
Do you really think I would make someone up that I'm genetically tied to in some capacity? He seriously is that stupid. His brother, redneck supremo, is opposite end of the political spectrum and about as bright. He'd be the ultra right winger that blindly supports the President and believes very fundamentalist things about the Bible and many inaccurate things that he just thinks are right according to the Bible.12/13/2005 9:23:00 PM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it is a well known fact that there is a liberal bias in academics" |
It's also a well known fact that you are a dumb ass12/14/2005 12:29:04 AM |