joepeshi All American 8094 Posts user info edit post |
boo this movie sucked 12/20/2005 3:36:35 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
WTF KIND OF ROOTS HOLD UP A DINOSAUR BUT HAVE TROUBLE KEEPING NAOMI WATTS STABLIZED
GOOD GRIEF THIS MOVIE PAINED MY BRAIN 12/20/2005 3:46:18 PM |
RawWulf All American 9126 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think you understabd Peter Jackson tried to stay true to the original film while still making a modernized film so it would appeal to the masses. I thought it was great the dinosaurs didn't look real. I thought it was great the story didn't explain how Kong got back to New York. That is the beauty of the imagination; something new Hollywood has forgotten people have. 12/20/2005 4:38:14 PM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
i can't wait to see this 12/20/2005 4:40:53 PM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah I hear Woodfoot hates movies where you have to think 12/20/2005 4:44:59 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
yeah thats it
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT?
if anything there isn't ENOUGH to think about
if anything the story of kong is a morality play about how, and i know i'm biting fucking penny arcade, man's need to corrupt or control every last bit of the unknown is what truly destroys the beautiful things of this world, originally as a smack in the face of colonialism in africa
but you can't replace that with some fucking 15 year old without a past reading a joseph conrad novel
it just doesn't work that way 12/20/2005 4:53:50 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
rawwulf i hope you were being sarcastic
i don't think andy serkis spent 6 months living with and studying gorillas so they could be "truthful to the original", they did that because they wanted the most realistic experience possible; so don't tell me they spent so much effort on getting kong right, but didn't get the dinosaurs right as a "tribute" or some shit
peter jackson can suck my left nut, hes not good enough for the right one
anyone who would sell THEIR PRODUCTION NOTES for over THIRTY FUCKING DOLLARS and then try to pass off a films shortcomings as "being true to the original" is a fucking hack
[Edited on December 20, 2005 at 4:59 PM. Reason : `] 12/20/2005 4:58:17 PM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
It's ok to not like the film, but calling Peter Jackson a hack is a little extreme. 12/20/2005 5:00:58 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
i told ya, i fell way off the bandwagon after ROTK and this
ANYTHING WITH "KING" IN THE TITLE REALLY 12/20/2005 5:04:19 PM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
Well it just seems backwards to me that you would harp on this film's shortcomings while defending shit like the Fantastic Four. It seems more of the typical overreaction to an acclaimed filmmaker/artist/whatever that people have when everyone likes him and they don't than a legitimate assessment of the filmmaker's actual skill.
The boat thing DOES seem like something they held over from the original more than a big gaping overlooked plot hole. The only solutions they could've conceivably worked into this film is to either make the boat a lot bigger or come up with some kind of raft to get him back to land. Neither one would've been very satisfactory IMO. 12/20/2005 5:17:08 PM |
Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
Whoa whoa settle down I was being sarcastic. I actually agree with most of what you've said about King Kong. 12/20/2005 6:06:47 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Well it just seems backwards to me that you would harp on this film's shortcomings while defending shit like the Fantastic Four." |
yes, that is a comparison you can make everyday
"king kong" and "fantastic four" are to be watched and enjoyed the exact same way and should be held to the same standards
and sorry vulcan, my bad12/20/2005 9:39:40 PM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
Well, given that you once respected Peter Jackson for what I consider the WORST LotR film, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. 12/20/2005 10:39:07 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
okey dokey
i never looked for your agreement, and i'm sure you're doing fine without mine 12/20/2005 11:07:35 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
i liked the movie. extremely entertaining to me.
only gripe was that they could have left the character development of the kid and the black dude out of it and cut about half an hour out of it. 12/20/2005 11:10:03 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
YOU'VE GOTTA GET YOUR EDUCATION JOHNNY
o i am, i'm reading this book, its hella hard; you're gonna have to explain it to me
O RLY? 12/20/2005 11:30:13 PM |
SipnOnSyzurp All American 8923 Posts user info edit post |
12/21/2005 10:42:05 AM |
stuck flex All American 4566 Posts user info edit post |
I don't care how many of you bash this movie...I thought it was great. Lot's of reference back to the original but kept it updated and entertaining. I was a huge fan of the original since I was little so maybe I have a skewed opinion. I thought it did the original justice and was well worth the price of admission. If only other remakes were as good as this one! 12/21/2005 11:29:09 AM |
Money_Jones Ohhh Farts 12521 Posts user info edit post |
all i have to say is: Sumerian rat-monkey 12/21/2005 9:07:15 PM |
RawWulf All American 9126 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i don't think andy serkis spent 6 months living with and studying gorillas so they could be "truthful to the original", they did that because they wanted the most realistic experience possible; so don't tell me they spent so much effort on getting kong right, but didn't get the dinosaurs right as a "tribute" or some shit" |
The fact is he did try to get the gorilla right -- I mean god damn, he wanted to give it a cock when the film was in pre-production -- but he wanted the dinosaurs to comes off as fantasy.
Quote : | "all i have to say is: Sumerian rat-monkey" |
a-fucking-men12/21/2005 9:18:23 PM |
Money_Jones Ohhh Farts 12521 Posts user info edit post |
i started laughing when i saw that shit in the background, i bet 95% of the people that go to see it never notice it, or they dont get it if they do 12/21/2005 9:23:12 PM |
RawWulf All American 9126 Posts user info edit post |
I thought that myself. I pointed it out to my friend who went with me because he and I are huge Peter Jackson fans. 12/21/2005 9:25:34 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
^ amen. the whole brontosaurus scene was way too long and wasnt necessary. it was entertaining movie but dont go see it later than 10pm. ur eyes will give up 12/22/2005 12:40:16 PM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
it was alright - a little bit too long, and without much subtlety, but the kong vs 3 t-rexes scene was well worth the admission 12/22/2005 5:38:38 PM |
EnderJRD All American 25300 Posts user info edit post |
MORE LIKE KING LONG
AM I RITE? 12/23/2005 11:38:15 AM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
u r correct sir 12/23/2005 11:43:05 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
looks like narnia beat it out for #1 this week
crazy delicious? 12/23/2005 11:53:29 AM |
Nerdchick All American 37009 Posts user info edit post |
oh man, the Sumerian Rat Monkey got a cameo?
I didn't notice 12/23/2005 11:53:41 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
If you cut out the first hour of the movie, its actually very good.
I liked it.
Sure was better to watch then that festering christian-emo pile known as Narnia. 12/23/2005 11:54:45 AM |
EnderJRD All American 25300 Posts user info edit post |
I really had to pee when the movie finally picked up the pace 12/23/2005 5:17:45 PM |
BrickTop All American 4508 Posts user info edit post |
wtf is the deal w/ the sumerian rat monkey 12/23/2005 11:43:57 PM |
Nerdchick All American 37009 Posts user info edit post |
it's a stop-motion monstrosity from one of Peter Jackson's earlier movies
it bites an old lady and turns her into a zombie 12/24/2005 12:37:24 AM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
I thought everything from the time they got to the island to RIGHT before the final line was pure gold
"twas beauty killed the beast?" I don't care if it WAS on the original, that line sucked, it was delivered horribly, and it doesn't make fucking sense. what an awful, awful way to end the flick
I almost cried when kong died though 12/24/2005 9:41:36 AM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
ok, i just watched The Iron Giant again for the first time in prolly a year
yeah, the relationship in that movie is like 10x better than the relationship in kong
i know its not so much an apples-to-apples deal but i think the comparison is valid 12/25/2005 1:41:20 AM |
PimpinHonda All American 4331 Posts user info edit post |
this movie had to potential to be good, just way too long 12/25/2005 11:39:38 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
^like you didn't expect that after return of the king
the last 20 minutes of that movie should have been cut out 12/25/2005 11:46:18 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
basically everyone has told me this movie is great
[Edited on December 27, 2005 at 8:10 AM. Reason : .] 12/27/2005 8:10:02 AM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
WOODFOOT WOODN'T 12/27/2005 8:52:03 AM |
Excoriator Suspended 10214 Posts user info edit post |
I hated the movie. it was tedious, slow, and pointless. everyone already knew the storyline. i don't understand how people think that ripping off ("showing homage to") someone else's art is acceptable. 12/27/2005 11:02:53 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
Unless you can find me a 1930's movie with a realistic gorrilla interacting with a human female in a pretty touching manner, then I would hardly call this movie a 'rip off'. 12/27/2005 12:28:11 PM |
markbrandpan Veteran 358 Posts user info edit post |
saw it last night at brier creek
a lot could have been trimmed from the movie, particularly the first hour or so, but overall it was very good, and the 3 hours only seemed like 2 hours and 55 minutes 12/27/2005 12:38:58 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "1930's movie with a realistic gorrilla" | realistic
you seen any 2d gorilllas walking around rwanda?
cause if you have, i'd love to see it
i'm sure kong looked realistic enough to folks in 1938 who had never seen anything like that
ps thats one thing the original has over this this movie didn't quite step up its game, except for kong THE DINOSAURS LOOKED WORSE THAN DINOSAURS WE SAW A DECADE AGO12/27/2005 1:11:18 PM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
jesus christ
the dinosaurs looked fine 12/27/2005 3:05:08 PM |
Kodiak All American 7067 Posts user info edit post |
12/27/2005 5:37:59 PM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
ida kept knocking that bitch down. go get her big fella. 12/27/2005 6:06:26 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
shit blew
so many scenes were too silly
i wish i wouldnt have been dragged to see it 12/29/2005 8:19:55 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26098 Posts user info edit post |
In King Kong vs. Godzilla, they built a big raft and towed him to Japan or wherever. He woke up during the trip and ended up wading waist deep back to land. I think they made him significantly bigger than 25 feet in that flick.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056142/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHE9a2luZyBrb25nIHZzLiBnb2R6aWxsYXxmdD0xfG14PTIwfGxtPTUwMHxjbz0xfGh0bWw9MXxubT0x;fc=1;ft=13
BTW, Kong kicked Godzilla's arse.
[Edited on December 29, 2005 at 9:48 PM. Reason : ] 12/29/2005 9:47:47 PM |
CapnObvious All American 5057 Posts user info edit post |
I agree with 90% of what reviewers said: if they replaced Kong with a Giant Chuck Noris, the T-Rex fight scene (and the rest of the island part of the movie) would have made much more sense. I mean, holy crap, those fight scenes in the movie were so bad I can't even explain it. The T-Rex fight scene should have been cut to just the final showdown where Kong rips the things jaw open. And the entire bug sequence where they start swinging from vines with guns blazing was just terrible. Everything from the stampede sequence to the end of the bugs should have been greatly shortened.
Basically, I think that I am saying that excluding the slow first hour, the entire middle of the movie, and the rushed NYC sequence, the movie was ok. The actors did their thing great, but I think Jackson took a nose dive with this one. 12/30/2005 12:42:47 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Delivery of the last line was shitty, but generally the slightly-toned-down-JB worked well.
The deck of the boat was big enough for the monkey, no biggie.
It dragged in places, but I thought it was decent enough. 12/30/2005 3:25:18 AM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
so i was in the empire state building last night, and there's so much king kong promotion in the gift shop it's ridiculous
they even have a dude in a kong suit
not that i'm surprised 12/30/2005 9:35:47 AM |