Quote :

"So the last 13-1 season was 1974..."

nope. from your own stats, it would be 1989.

1/2/2006 5:21:54 PM

Quote :

"I didn't know what to expect coming into the season, but this looks like the best team we've had since V left."

Corchiani and Monroe played their Senior seasons under Les Robinson. Gugliotta was on that team as well. That team was easily better than this one.

1/2/2006 5:23:44 PM

I didn't say best players.

If V had been coaching during Robinson's first year, that particular team would have been much better.

[Edited on January 2, 2006 at 5:34 PM. Reason : they sure as fuck wouldn't have gone 6-8 in the ACC]

1/2/2006 5:34:09 PM

true that.

What a fucking waste of talent that was.

And for that matter, what a fucking waste of skin Robinson is.

1/2/2006 5:38:39 PM

fuck we're 13 in the AP

1/2/2006 6:18:19 PM

The difference is, last year we got there by being ranked highly in the preseason and then losing games we shouldn't have.

This year we've worked our way up from nowhere.

I feel much more secure with our ranking this year.

1/2/2006 6:19:32 PM

I do too. We just need to make it through saturday without losing again and we'll be fine. I'm pumped for the UNC game...I think this is our best shot at sweeping them...they're gonna be nice next year.

1/2/2006 7:03:57 PM

Quote :

"they're gonna be nice nasty next year."

1/2/2006 7:14:55 PM

Updated charts for this week appear below. Here's hoping our upward trend continues. Otherwise, next week's update could be quite painful. You may need to refresh if last week's images are saved in your cache. I just replaced the old images with the new.













[Edited on January 2, 2006 at 8:45 PM. Reason : ]

1/2/2006 8:43:37 PM

great job coz

1/2/2006 8:46:02 PM

memphis losing will help this week as long as we can win against carolina...top 10 with a couple other losses by others

1/2/2006 10:22:39 PM

BTTT

1/3/2006 11:35:31 AM

The only thing could get misconstrued when taking a quick glance at the two graphs side by side at the top is that the y axis is not the same on both charts, so UNC's record might look better than it should.

Otherwise gg on the charts Coz

1/3/2006 12:24:49 PM

I'm the owner and The Coz is the head coach of this thread

1/3/2006 12:28:30 PM

when do the new power 16s come out

1/3/2006 12:30:01 PM

Shiiiit...if we beat UNC, the name value alone of that would push us into the top 10 easily.

1/3/2006 1:10:24 PM

Quote :

"Shiiiit...if we beat UNC, the name value alone of that would push us into the top 10 easily."

Fuck that... we'd be #1

ESPN would crown us national champs on the spot. March madness would be for 2nd place.

1/3/2006 1:11:26 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2277877

Quote :

"NC State: The Wolfpack had one of the best wins of the week when they sliced up George Washington 79-58. The Wolfpack are looking like a machine right now and should be right there with Boston College and Maryland to challenge Duke. NC State could be a sleeper pick to go deep in March."

wtf

Quote :

"George Washington at Temple, Wednesday, 6 ET: The Colonials couldn't hang with NC State's system in Raleigh. OK, so that game could end up hurting the seeding process, but this one means more with the chance to get off to a good start in the A-10 title chase. The Colonials will have to dictate tempo if they want to get out of Philly with a win."

how'd it 'hurt' the seeding process?

1/3/2006 1:54:15 PM

all i can guess is that since GW is (albeit a good team) in a shit conference, it could hurt them in march if they dont win the conference

1/3/2006 1:56:30 PM

yeah it obviously hurts GW

but i dont see how it hurts the seeding process

1/3/2006 1:57:56 PM

Yeah. If they don't win an automatic bid, then they're basically coasting on the UMD win.

1/3/2006 1:58:20 PM

Quote :

"memphis losing will help this week as long as we can win against carolina...top 10 with a couple other losses by others"

Memphis will not fall out of the top 10. They will fall to about 7 or 8 with Gonzaga. Texas winning will put them around top 10 actually costing us a spot.

1/3/2006 2:36:58 PM

Quote :

"The only thing could get misconstrued when taking a quick glance at the two graphs side by side at the top is that the y axis is not the same on both charts, so UNC's record might look better than it should."

I know. I noted that on the previous page when I first posted them, but since UNC's initial ranking was so low, there are only two other options:

1. Widen the axis for NCSU, wasting a lot of space and reducing clarity.
2. Narrow the axis for UNC, meaning some points plot off the chart area.

That's why I just made sure everything was labeled on each chart. The final chart provides the best means of comparison among the schools.

1/3/2006 3:23:52 PM

If we can pull out a win against UNC, we have a great shot at moving up a few spots. A solid win against carolina would push us ahead of Maryland who we're tied with at least.



Coaches Poll Games/Losses to Note for the week

1. Duke (30) 12-0 774 @#22 Wake Forest
2. Connecticut (1) 11-0 731 LOST to Marquette 94-79
3. Villanova 9-0 716 @#8 Louisville
4. Memphis 11-1 672 Lost to Texas 69-58
5. Florida 12-0 647 ***
6. Illinois 14-0 635 vs. #7 Michigan State
7. Michigan State 12-2 540 @ #6 Illinois, @ #24 Wisonsin
8. Louisville 11-1 491 vs. #3 Villanova
9. Gonzaga 10-3 473
10. Washington 11-1 472
11. Boston College 10-2 386
12. Maryland 10-2 353
12. N.C. State 11-1 353 @#25 UNC
14. Oklahoma 8-2 346
15. Indiana 8-2 312 vs. #18 Ohio State
16. Texas 10-2 305 Def #4 Memphis 69-58
17. UCLA 11-2 292 @ #23 Arizona
18. Ohio State 10-0 262 @ #15 Indiana
19. George Washington 8-1 215
20. Pittsburgh 11-0 211
21. Kentucky 9-3 194
22. Wake Forest 10-2 95 vs #1 Duke
23. Arizona 9-3 93 vs #17 UCLA
24. Wisconsin 10-2 80 vs #7 Michigan State
25. North Carolina 7-2 69 vs #12 NC State


*** - Florida does not play a ranked team until February and has a good chance to remain undefeated until then. Kinda makes you sick because of their easy schedule.



At least 8 and probably 9 top 25 teams will lose a game this week due to playing other top 25 teams.

Two top 10 teams have already lost this week, and it will be at least 4 of the top 10 teams with another loss by the end of the week.


These factors with a solid win over UNC would move NC State up 3-5 spots I hope.

1/4/2006 12:14:38 AM

^ nice breakdown of the next week...where'd you find that list at?

1/4/2006 2:09:06 AM

Sportsline poll is still fucked up..

1 Duke
2 UConn
3 Florida
4 Villanova
5 Memphis
6 Mich State
7 Illinois
8 UCLA
9 Louisville
10 Washington
11 Oklahoma
12 Gonzaga
13 Texas
14 North Carolina
15 Syracuse
16 Maryland
17 Indiana
18 George Washington (WTF?)
19 Boston College
20 WVU
21 Kentucky
22 Pittsburgh
23 NC State
24 Ohio State
25 Wake Forest

1/4/2006 2:46:25 AM

that is why you don't look at the sportsline poll

it is a bunch of bullshit

1/4/2006 2:48:00 AM

it is a good poll for gaging bias in the real polls..

1/4/2006 2:52:47 AM

yeah fuck teh sportsline poll...but sportsline.com itself still has the real polls http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/polls

1/4/2006 10:48:30 AM

when the fuck do the new power 16s come out

they are weekly right?

1/4/2006 11:03:51 AM

Sometime today, I think.

1/4/2006 11:36:46 AM

Quote :

"^ nice breakdown of the next week...where'd you find that list at? "

I just took the top 25 poll and broke it down myself.

1/5/2006 12:03:51 AM

bttt

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/powerranking?week=9&pollId=1

Quote :

"Another very good club getting stiffed as far as national buzz. No longer ... look for our feature on Friday on the Pack and the Heels."

1/5/2006 12:49:21 PM

It must have been upset week, because 31 of the top 48 lost a game this week. Strikethroughs are the teams that dropped at least one this week. Look for Florida to become the new #2, and UNC to shoot up the rankings. An asterik means the team had a win against a top 25 opponent during the week.


*1. Duke (30) 12-0 774
2. Connecticut (1) 11-0 731
*3. Villanova 9-0 716
4. Memphis 11-1 672
5. Florida 12-0 647
*6. Illinois 14-0 635
7. Michigan State 12-2 540 (2 losses this week)
8. Louisville 11-1 491
9. Gonzaga 10-3 473
10. Washington 11-1 472
11. Boston College 10-2 386
12. Maryland 10-2 353
12. N.C. State 11-1 353
14. Oklahoma 8-2 346
*15. Indiana 8-2 312
*16. Texas 10-2 305
17. UCLA 11-2 292
18. Ohio State 10-0 262
19. George Washington 8-1 215
20. Pittsburgh 11-0 211
21. Kentucky 9-3 194
22. Wake Forest 10-2 95
23. Arizona 9-3 93
*24. Wisconsin 10-2 80
*25. North Carolina 7-2 69

OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES
Syracuse 66
Nevada 52
Colorado 40
Iowa 24
West Virginia 23
Air Force 22
Michigan 20
Tennessee 18
Bucknell 12
Cincinnati 10
Northern Iowa 10
Colorado State 7
Buffalo 7
Texas A&M 7
Iona 7
Iowa State 7
Notre Dame 6
Vanderbilt 5
Indiana State 5
Florida State 4
Arkansas 3
Wichita State 2
California 1.


(I'm assuming Duke beats WF tonight, but will edit if it doesnt happen.)

1/8/2006 7:39:21 PM

I knew there were a lot of losses by ranked teams, but wow. Nice display.

1/8/2006 7:56:18 PM

when do the rankings come out?

i thought it was today...

1/9/2006 8:59:28 AM

Today.

ESPN/USA Today poll is usually around around 1, and the AP poll from 3-5 is pretty typical timing.

1/9/2006 9:02:52 AM

1. Duke (31) 14-0 775
2. Florida 14-0 739
3. Villanova 10-1 672
4. Connecticut 12-1 662
5. Memphis 13-2 653
6. Illinois 15-1 604
7. Gonzaga 11-3 556
8. Indiana 10-2 499
9. Texas 12-2 490
10. Louisville 12-2 463
11. Pittsburgh 12-0 404
12. UCLA 13-2 396
13. Washington 12-2 356
14. Boston College 11-3 309
15. Michigan State 12-4 287
16. Ohio State 11-1 275
17. Wisconsin 12-2 256
18. N.C. State 12-2 251
19. George Washington 10-1 218
20. North Carolina 9-2 192
21. Maryland 11-3 174
22. Oklahoma 9-3 173
23. West Virginia 10-3 131
24. Syracuse 13-2 96
25. Arizona 10-4 77

1/9/2006 1:31:51 PM

So we can quit the UNC gets preferential treatment in the polls CRAP now. If our situations were reversed and we just beat UNC and they had the same amount of Ls and were behind we'd by crying bloody murder..

1/9/2006 1:33:13 PM

thank god UNC is only 20th...if they break they top 10 i lose 200 bucks!

1/9/2006 1:34:25 PM

^^just wait a few hours....the AP poll isnt out yet

[Edited on January 9, 2006 at 1:35 PM. Reason : ]

1/9/2006 1:35:06 PM

a few problems with this poll, there is no way that BC and MSU are still top 15 teams. Please throw your horrible preseason rankings out the window and actually look at the team. BC has played 2 ranked teams, both losses, and one bad acc team, GT and also lost. And MSU is just plain pitiful.at least we are still ahead of UNC and in the top 20.

1/9/2006 1:38:16 PM

Yea it's an absolute joke that BC is ahead of WVU.

WVUs schedule blows BC the fuck out of the water and they each have 3 losses.

I mean WVU lost to Texas, Kentucky, and LSU. They have beaten #3 Villanova and #8 Oklahoma.

Meanwhile BC hasn't beaten a ranked team yet.

[Edited on January 9, 2006 at 1:49 PM. Reason : f]

1/9/2006 1:48:58 PM

^once again...wait a little while....this time till tomorrow night

1/9/2006 1:50:47 PM

BC is very solid, but they are not top 15 yet. IF they beat us, then they are legit.

1/9/2006 1:52:05 PM

Quote :

"So we can quit the UNC gets preferential treatment in the polls CRAP now. If our situations were reversed and we just beat UNC and they had the same amount of Ls and were behind we'd by crying bloody murder.. "

thats the first thing that i thought, no way we deserve to be ranked higher than carolina

1/9/2006 1:53:28 PM

^^you mean WHEN they beat us.



See, what you have to do is lose all confidence that anything good can come from our sports teams. It worked half way through last basketball season for me. It worked halfway through this football season again. I just have too much confidence early in the season...thats why we fuck up. Now I can go back to pretending I dont give a fuck, then If we win...its a bonus...if we lose..."i told you so"...haha

[Edited on January 9, 2006 at 1:55 PM. Reason : ]

1/9/2006 1:54:48 PM

Quote :

"thats the first thing that i thought, no way we deserve to be ranked higher than carolina"

um why not? both of our losses come against ranked opponents, only one of theirs does.

we have more wins, and better quality wins than they do.

1/9/2006 2:02:20 PM

but they have more walmart sales.

1/9/2006 2:03:22 PM

Quote :

"I just have too much confidence early in the season...thats why we fuck up"

That makes perfect sense.

no really.

1/9/2006 2:53:54 PM