haha i say JAY DAVIS

and it makes it to pg 2

12/28/2005 1:20:46 AM

you're welcome

12/28/2005 1:38:37 AM

ya, fuck winning games. GO JAY DAVIS

12/28/2005 4:30:05 AM

Quote :

" davis as starter: 2-4 stone as starter: 4-1 "

[/thread]

Also, didn't you say you would shut up about jay davis if stone took us to a bowl game? Next time we need to get that crap in writing

12/28/2005 8:21:17 AM

I've never understood the wristbands on the elbows and the upper arms. Back when i was a QB, this would have felt un-natural.

12/28/2005 8:43:59 AM

Which QB will have more passing yards in the game: (Both must play)

(110) P. Julmiste
(-130) J. Davis


So according to pickspal.com, Jay Davis is not only playing, but should have more passing yards.

12/28/2005 8:50:30 AM

Quote :

"Also, didn't you say you would shut up about jay davis if stone took us to a bowl game?"

those would be the key words...

12/28/2005 10:12:38 AM

^ so who took us to the bowl game?
Stone won more games than Davis - twice as many actually.

You don't have to admit that Stone is a better fit at QB for NC State than Davis, the numbers prove it.

[Edited on December 28, 2005 at 10:24 AM. Reason : []

12/28/2005 10:24:00 AM

Quote :

"to a degree i think Jay's failures can be attributed to coaching and play calling we had too many options and never found the ones that clicked until later in the season 3 running backs, 2 QBs, off and on defense I believe we could have won as many games as we did with Jay at the helm when we finally figured out who our RB was, what type of plays to run and had the defense working people attribute the wins to Stone because he was the big, notable, worth-talking-about-on-tv change that was made Jay got shafted out of playing and Stone got the opportunity of a lifetime"

damnit fuck, charlie says someting correct.

I was about to post that the reason we succeded with Stone is BECAUSE he is not as good as Jay. This forced us to use a different game plan...RUN THE FUCKING BALL, but it also allowed us to throw it deep just a few times a game to back up the defenses. Yeah, its not going to pad your stats, but its safe, and wont lose us games.

Now if we just had an offensive line for those running backs.....

12/28/2005 10:49:11 AM

Quote :

"I was about to post that the reason we succeded with Stone is BECAUSE he is not as good as Jay."

So you are saying that we would have been just as bad with Philip Rivers under center?

12/28/2005 10:57:57 AM

Quote :

"Jay Davis got screwed over (and over again by charlieEFH) and Amato knows it"

12/28/2005 11:08:43 AM

Quote :

"after the wake game i said Stone would impress me if he gets us to a bowl well he now has that opportunity"

--CharlieEFH

That was said right before the Maryland game. So STFU and GTFO.

12/28/2005 11:25:59 AM

^^^If our defense wouldn't show up it wouldn't matter much like many games this year like Clemson and BC. He is saying that our team got better because we didn't depend on our QB. We used our running backs and defense to start winning games.

12/28/2005 11:28:30 AM

Quote :

"our team got better"

Then I don't see why anyone would question who the better man for the job is.

12/28/2005 11:31:31 AM

Stone went along for the ride

but he doesn't get the credit

12/28/2005 11:54:16 AM

Quote :

"Jay should start the bowl. Who cares if he won't be back? Stone is no better so why not let Jay play his last game."

I'M NOT READING ANYTHING AFTER THIS COMMENT...THAT IS THE DUMBEST SHIT I'VE EVER HEARD....STONE MIGHT NOT BE ANY BETTER BUT ITS A MATTER OF CONFIDENCE....IF STONE CAN FINISH THE SEASON WITH A BOWL VICTORY AGAINST A PRETTY GOOD TEAM IN USF THEN HE WILL BE MUCH MORE CONFIDENT GOING INTO NEXT YEAR......JAY SHOULDN'T EVEN SUIT UP FOR THE GAME...HE SUCKS

12/28/2005 12:00:15 PM

They both suck and wouldn't have a chance of playing at any decent program. I don't care who starts at quarterback, so long as our defense shows up(and I'm hoping that they can keep the penalties to a minimum). I'll be happy once this year is over. This year's team was the most disappointing that I've had to watch. At least with OCain you knew going in that they were going to stink it up.

12/28/2005 12:43:20 PM

Quote :

"well, when you don't pass the ball and you complete only 1 completion in the first half of 4+ games... you're obviously not going to have as many opportunities to throw an interception ------------------------ Davis should throw more interceptions considered he average 100 YARDS MORE passing per game. And its a total of 2 more interceptions. ------------------------ stone 135 attempts over 8 games =17 passes a game davis 180 attempts over 6 games =30 passes a game"

There's some pretty simple math you guys can perform to sort that out, you know....



Davis:
180 attempts
divided by
8 interceptions
equals
22.5 attempts per interception


Stone:
135 attempts
divided by
6 interceptions
equals
22.5 attempts per interception

12/28/2005 12:56:10 PM

^you know the only stat that matters,
Jay davis 2-4
marcus stone 4-1

12/28/2005 1:31:35 PM

Quote :

"Stone went along for the ride but he doesn't get the credit"

Charlie - what was the difference in the two teams (pre and post QB change) besides the QB?

12/28/2005 2:06:21 PM

Davis:
180 attempts
divided by
6 touchdowns
equals
30 attempts per touchdown


Stone:
135 attempts
divided by
7 interceptions
equals
19.28 attempts per touchdown

12/28/2005 2:11:32 PM

Quote :

"what was the difference in the two teams (pre and post QB change) besides the QB?"

Quote :

"andre brown revitalization of defense after safety in wake forest game "

Quote :

"to a degree i think Jay's failures can be attributed to coaching and play calling we had too many options and never found the ones that clicked until later in the season 3 running backs, 2 QBs, off and on defense I believe we could have won as many games as we did with Jay at the helm when we finally figured out who our RB was, what type of plays to run and had the defense working people attribute the wins to Stone because he was the big, notable, worth-talking-about-on-tv change that was made Jay got shafted out of playing and Stone got the opportunity of a lifetime"

[Edited on December 28, 2005 at 2:15 PM. Reason : i'm glad people can't read ]

12/28/2005 2:14:43 PM

considering how shitty our offensive line is, the quarterback who doesn't run backwards for 20 yards before being sacked is the better quarterback for our team. Thus, Stone is the better quarterback for our current team.

If either one of them had played behind the offensive line that Phillip Rivers had, they would have looked a lot better.

12/28/2005 2:23:05 PM

were you at the Wake game?

12/28/2005 2:24:04 PM

^You mean the game we got behind in, Stone brought us back, then Davis went back in and lost?

12/28/2005 2:27:34 PM

ALL YOU JAY DAVIS FOLLOWERS CAN THINK OF EVERY EXCUSE IMAGINABLE FOR HIS SUCKING.....FACE IT THE GUY SUCKS AND DOESN'T DESERVE TO PLAY FOOTBALL EVER AGAIN....HE HAD SEVERAL CHANCES TO PROVE HE WAS THE MAN AND HE FAILED MISERABLY...FUCK HIM....STONE GETS THE NOD

12/28/2005 2:38:05 PM

Jay is gone after this season

Stone COULD start next year

it's stupid to start Jay. whether he is "better" or not

12/28/2005 3:01:22 PM

Stone wouldn't have won the wake game had he stayed in

12/28/2005 3:01:56 PM

CharlieEFH

Give it up, its the internet not your fucking relationship, you can be wrong man, its OK

12/28/2005 3:06:31 PM

Quote :

"Stone wouldn't have won the wake game had he stayed in"

.

Proof?

If you can admit that Brown is better than Baker why can't you admit that Stone is better than Davis?

12/28/2005 3:06:56 PM

The team moved the ball (forward) when Stone was in, and was stationary or in reverse when Davis was in. While noone can say for sure whether Stone would have won the game, anyone with a reasonable grasp on reality that was at that game knew that he gave the team a much better chance than Davis. It's hard to come from behind and win when you can't move the ball.

12/28/2005 3:09:53 PM

Stone had 29+ 3 and outs compared to Davis' 19+ 3 and outs

Andre Brown moved the ball, not Stone

12/28/2005 3:11:06 PM

Quote :

"Stone had 29+ 3 and outs compared to Davis' 19+ 3 and outs"

Davis just threw INTs instead of making us punt.

12/28/2005 3:12:42 PM

the INTs/fumbles are included in that

basicaly any drive where we dind't make a first down, excluding end of half/games

[Edited on December 28, 2005 at 3:15 PM. Reason : yes i looked them up]

12/28/2005 3:14:17 PM

29+ 3-and-outs = 4 wins, 1 loss

19+ 3-and-outs = 2 wins, 4 losses

I like how you claim Jay is better because he had fewer 3-and-outs.

I think we were better this season with the QB who went 4-1.

12/28/2005 3:19:49 PM

Stone's games were so boring to watch

Jay is a beter quarterback in the sense of quarterbacks

Stone is a better athlete

and even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while

12/28/2005 3:29:57 PM

Quote :

"Stone's games were so boring to watch"

More boring than the Clempson game? A win is never boring to watch.

Quote :

"Jay is a beter quarterback in the sense of quarterbacks"

Are you saying he has better stats? What is the sense of quarterbacks?

Quote :

"Stone is a better athlete"

Which with our O-line is something that the QB needs to have.

Quote :

"and even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while"

Anyway you want to slice it, Davis found 2 - Stone found 4.
If they're both blind squirrels Stone has the better nose.

12/28/2005 3:33:19 PM

every stone game has been more boring than the clemson game, especialy the southern miss game

jay's a better and more accurate passer

Stone has arm strength, but that's about it

12/28/2005 3:37:21 PM

Quote :

"every stone game has been more boring than the clemson game"

And with that I know you can't be serious. Have a good one.

12/28/2005 3:38:31 PM

1 completion in 4 first halves makes for a very unexciting game

12/28/2005 3:40:30 PM

Quote :

" 4 wins, 1 loss 2 wins, 4 losses "

THATS ALL THAT MATTERS....CHARLIE GTFO....I HOPE YOU TAKE MORE SNAPS THAN JAY DOES THIS WEEKEND

[Edited on December 28, 2005 at 3:41 PM. Reason : S]

12/28/2005 3:40:59 PM

Damn how come you people can't see it.

They are both bad.

12/28/2005 3:43:29 PM

comparing shit to vomit

12/28/2005 3:45:16 PM

So Charlie,

You have a civic that runs well 80% of the time and a camry that runs well 33% of the time.

Which are you going to drive?

12/28/2005 3:47:44 PM

Stone+Davis= my kid is more retarded than your kid

12/28/2005 6:33:21 PM

Quote :

"If he finished the season with Brown we would have finished 6-5 as well."

bullshit. no way in HELL does davis win the FSU game. He throws at least 3 pics in that game if he plays.

12/28/2005 6:36:30 PM

/suspend
/ban
CharlieEFH

12/28/2005 10:32:46 PM

i didn't make the thread, and the threadmaker knows what the deal is

if anything, you guys should be suspended/banned for taking offense...

12/28/2005 10:37:48 PM

Quote :

"every stone game has been more boring than the clemson game, especialy the southern miss game"

yeah, watching Andre Brown have his comming out party in the second half sucked, although the first half of that game blew cock.


You guys are like broken records. Stop arguing about quarterbacks...this was done months ago. Start arguing about the running backs and defense that picked up after the wake game.....


........and the fact that the clemson game was the last one where where penalties were an issue.

12/28/2005 10:58:47 PM

Quote :

"i didn't make the thread, and the threadmaker knows what the deal is if anything, you guys should be suspended/banned for taking offense..."

Haha this thread was a joke now look at it. I don't understand why it's being argued. All I hope is that Stone isn't the starter next year and we get Shaeffer who then hands the reins to Burke after his 2 years.

12/28/2005 11:36:11 PM