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theone
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^No its not. He was more of a reciever last year. I recall it being all about Leinhart, Bush was the supporting cast. He did great things, but not as near what he did this year.Smart ass. But thankx for your two cents tho'

Lemme clarify: he awwed the crowd last year. But this year, he really really took over the crowd and opposing teams. This has already been done before people. This is nothing new. Please remain seated. Thank you.

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[Edited on December 30, 2005 at 4:53 PM. Reason : Please Stop Making Reggie Bush this football deity]

12/30/2005 4:28:28 PM

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"And how do YOU measure explosive??im curious??"


I said it already. The ability to take it to the house every time they touch it, even when it looks like he's going to be stopped for a loss.


Of the people you mentioned, I just don't think any of them had that ability as much as Bush. Ward, Vick, Frazier, etc we're QB's and although they could juke some people, they mostly did it on busted plays, heavy blitzes, and when no one was open (In other words, when half of the defense was elsewhere and more spaced out). Bush does it as a running back. They know he's going to run, they just can't stop him. IMO, he's a much better athlete/threat than any of them when running the ball (At least when those guys were his age, at the college level).

Bo Jackson actually is a really good mention, and I'd definetely rank him up there with Bush from the clips I've seen and what he did in the NFL. Only problem with him is that I was 3 when he graduated from Auburn. I never got to see him in college on an every-saturday basis.

I just think, as a college Sophmore (I know he's a junior, but he lit people up last year too), Bush is further along as far as being a pure athelete/explosive than anyone I've ever seen. (I'm sure there may have been someone better... I just could easily make an argument for Bush vs. anyone, and I really can't think of anyone as dominant (as a junior) in college)




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12/30/2005 4:59:42 PM

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whatever you say man

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"Only problem with him is that I was 3 when he graduated from Auburn. I never got to see him in college on an every-saturday basis."


But its funny how you can automatically rank him below Bush, even tho you haven't seen his clips. Cheap excuse, b/c we're around the same age (give or take a year) and I have seen clips/highlights. Through recent media, nfl films etc.

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"The ability to take it to the house every time they touch it, even when it looks like he's going to be stopped for a loss. "


Has anyone else up here seen clips of Barry Sanders, Warrick Dunn?? B/c i know that Packpacker hasn't. And these guys were Rb's aka one man armies, just like everyone else i mentioned with the same ability or better than Bush. But, they are your opinions like you said so, hey. Go figure. Im threw talking about Bush with this PackBacker guy.

Out of all the damn Rb's i mentioned what does he ^ do?? Go and pick out all the damn Qb's, twist it around, input class level just to support his weak argument. Thats why im done talking about this stupid shit.

[Edited on December 30, 2005 at 6:27 PM. Reason : thread topic guys]

12/30/2005 6:17:47 PM

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OMG Warrick Dunn? Get the fuck outta here with that shit. Yeah he was pretty exciting at FSU, but he was never on the level that Reggie Bush is at now.

I don't have to watch clips of Dunn. I watched him play live and on TV. He was a very good college RB. 1 man army? I don't think so.

12/30/2005 6:36:47 PM

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Ok then Barry Sanders?? Bo Jackson?? Marshall Faulk??? Place Bush over them why dont you. One more thing, this thread is about USC being the greatest TEAM of all time, according to alot of people (voters, anchors). These guys im talking about were fucking awesome 1 man armies, on "okay" teams, some on sorry teams.

read between the lines: Bush is on a badass team, He is raising complete hell- not hard to do with his talent.
people ive mentioned- okay to sorry ass teams, all raised complete hell, all did what Bush did. very hard to do. Very hard to take over an opposing team, make a highlight film, shit on a GOOD defense, with little to no help (wassup Torry Holt, and a shitload of others who did the unthinkable).
So you can't put Bush over these guys.

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12/30/2005 6:44:52 PM

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^Suprisingly you didn't mention Herschel Walker, who was probably better than all of these guys


(Well, unless you put him up against Sanders of 1988... or I think that's the year. Sanders was really a one-year wonder...albeit an incredibly amazing year...and I realize he was a backup to Thurman Thomas the years before he exploded)

It's just too hard to compare these things given the different circumstances. Times are different now than when some of the older greats played (Not talking Warrick, Frazier, etc.... but much older players like Ted Brown, et.al).

I still think the best NFL running back of all time was Jim Brown... while most think It's Barry (I'd put Barry #2, Payton #3, with everyone else way behind). Either one makes a great case for it... it's a matter of opinion. I'd have a hard time putting Herschel Walker/Sanders/Faulk/Ward/etc over Reggie Bush... but I'd have just as hard of a time putting Bush over them. They were all good, and it's too hard to compare. Bush lights other teams up as much as any of them, though



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12/30/2005 7:37:22 PM

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Are u guys reading this shit man???

And Bush isn't even the nations leading rusher. Never was. Favoritism can get you a long way in the mind of PackBacker.

[Edited on December 30, 2005 at 8:56 PM. Reason : please stop!!! PLLLLLLease]

12/30/2005 8:44:42 PM

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That's becuase Bush splits his carries with another 1,000 yard rusher

And it's getting pretty annoying with the "Know it all, I'm right and everyone else here is idiots" shit as well. I like how you attempt to make a mockery of everyone's opinions while naming people such as Warrick Dunn and Woody Dantzler as those who can even sniff Bush's jock. If you ask me, that's laughable, but I refrained from being a jackass. Looks like you beat me to the punch.

Bush's 9 YPC average is better than than of any of those former greats you mentioned. Thats right.... more than Sanders, Faulk, Jackson, Dunn.... you name it. Even in Barry Sander's amazing year, he carried the ball almost 350 times. Bush carried it something like 180 this year.... and still had nearly 1,700 yards. That's not to say what he does as a WR or returner. Shut Up. Please. You're just a troll attempting to incite a riot, and you're failing miserably.


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12/30/2005 9:07:57 PM

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Trolling??????Trolling???? dude get the fuck outta here. You said you would leave. I haven't shitted on anyone elses opinion but your crappy one. If you notice, me and you are the only ones communicating.Stop tryn to turn everyone against me you faggott. Every thing was going fine til you came in disrupting everything with your shitful opinion.

You even said that you diddnt feel like arguing and you would leave. You did neither. No one is trolling you!!! you're just a fucking stupid loser with nothing else to do but fuck up threads. You stated your lame opinion OKAY, wupdie damn doo!!!! now get the fuck outta here. Your problem is: you want people to agree with every thing you say. SHIT aint happenin'.

You're no fucking guru. Ive disagreed with you on issues before. And I will disagree with you again and again. You took this Bush shit waaaaay too far. I have never heard such shit in my entire life. I fucking hate you, every time I turn around you're trolling me. You worthless fuck. GET A LIFE why don't you!! and take the scrotum of Reggie Bush OUT of your mouth.

for the record: Warrick Dunn was a great rb who lived shitting on tough defenses. Something that Bush STILL has yet to do. And Pac 10 teams don't even play defense. Boy i tell ya' I don't know what i hate worse...male groupies or trolls. Then this faggott has the nerv to call me a troll. I asked you to please leave, and you diddnt.

[Edited on December 30, 2005 at 10:55 PM. Reason : .]

12/30/2005 10:36:35 PM

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^^keep in mind that playing in the PAC10 adds about 2 YPC to one's total. especially when that team is stacked at WR, so the shitty defenses in that league can't focus on the run.

12/30/2005 10:41:07 PM

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^^ Yes, I am trying to turn everyone against you. It's all a part of my plan to take over the world and ride my unicorn away to Neverland.


Disagreeing with me is fine. When you attempt to take personal jabs with comments such as:

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"You are outta your fuckin mind dude."

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"then don't and get the fuck out."

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"Are u guys reading this shit man???

And Bush isn't even the nations leading rusher. Never was. Favoritism can get you a long way in the mind of PackBacker.

[Edited on December 30, 2005 at 8:56 PM. Reason : please stop!!! PLLLLLLease]

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then you can expect to be called out on it.

You're trying to be a fucking smartass to every comment I make and take ridiculous jabs. You sound like MacGyver. Your last post is completely hilarious...words just can't describe it. You sound like some psychotic ex girlfriend. I'm trying to turn everyone against you? I'm trolling you? Stupid loser with nothing else to do but fuck up threads? Wow. You said Reggie Bush wasn't great... I said he was..... then you start doing rolleye shit and being a smartass to everything I said.... of course I'm going to argue it when you're blatantly attempting to make me look like an idiot for disagreeing with you.

Whatever.

12/31/2005 2:18:47 AM

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You little Bitch!!!! I never said he wasn't great. Thats how I know you're trolling me know. thread was going fine-asshole jumps in with his "blah blah blah man amongst boys bullshit" and his Bush dick-sucking campaign, and I call you out on it thats all. Like noone can call you out. Like you're some damn oracle.

And motherfucker, I got your psychotic ex girlfriend aiight. Ya know, sometimes this internet shit talking gets me heated b/c I can't put my hands on these anonymous motherfuckers. If i could I would choke life out of you. Then I would show up at your funeral, and drive your mother's head into the side of YOUR casket, and break that bitch neck, along with the side of the casket. Flippin you outta that motherfucker in the whole process.

You are a FUCKING IDIOT dude

12/31/2005 3:29:14 AM

theone
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PACKBACKER hey, where the fuck are you??? you big stupid pussy. Bush aint shit. You are stupid!!!

1/5/2006 1:14:41 AM

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the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history
the pac-10 has some of the most awful defenses in ncaa history




of course reggie bush is gonna look good, anyone who runs with his mentality will look good in that cupcake defense conference.

1/5/2006 1:23:08 AM

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And Notre Dame give the crappy D credit.

BUT MOST OF ALL BUSH NEEDS TO THANK THE FRESNO STATE BULLDOGS.

1/5/2006 1:27:10 AM

theone
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ha haaaaaaaa ^ so true baby!!!!!!!!!!!!

^^thats true also. I tried to tell these fuckheads this

[Edited on January 5, 2006 at 1:46 AM. Reason : .]

1/5/2006 1:45:55 AM

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How exactly does this help your case?

Rushing
82 yards on 13 carries ~ 6.3 ypc

He was also the 2nd leading receiver in the game with 6 catches for 95 yards ~ 15.8 ypc


How what exactly does that prove he sucks? Just let this thread die dude. You're really not making sense

1/5/2006 7:42:21 AM

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