baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
what did i miss today? 2/3/2006 5:01:06 PM |
RattlerRyan All American 8660 Posts user info edit post |
anybody doing study groups this week? 2/6/2006 4:39:42 AM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
im down 2/6/2006 7:48:38 AM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
you're all screwed... not really, if you actually study and memorize the Structures and how to do the N-C AA linkage, you'll get at least a 25 maybe a 30 2/6/2006 1:17:32 PM |
RattlerRyan All American 8660 Posts user info edit post |
what do you mean N-C amino acid linkage? 2/6/2006 2:21:36 PM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
i know how the NCC shit works. i just gotta study some more 2/6/2006 2:27:04 PM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
NCC linkages is what i meant... 2/6/2006 3:50:17 PM |
LoneWolf7 All American 656 Posts user info edit post |
good luck to all with that crazy lady....
its too bad when you love a subject but the class destroys your interest in it.... 2/6/2006 4:56:17 PM |
RattlerRyan All American 8660 Posts user info edit post |
studying tomorrow (Tuesday) at 8 pm in the library, Kitty B and I will at least be there 2/6/2006 7:41:06 PM |
danancsu6 Starting Lineup 60 Posts user info edit post |
Anyone gonna be studying Thursday mid-day anywhere? Anyone have any old tests to study? And I really hope the TA's know what they're doing, so far I dont think my TA has gotten 5 words in for Sylvia taking up the entire P/R time 2/6/2006 10:21:59 PM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
im studying at my sisters dorm. here at UT. i know its late. but hell people join in if you want. i should be studying this whole week.
yeah, sylvia does take over the PR sessions. but i love that lady
for you Dr. Sylvia 2/6/2006 10:42:56 PM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
old test = A 2/7/2006 9:20:19 AM |
RattlerRyan All American 8660 Posts user info edit post |
FYI, I'll be at the library at 8:30 tonight
If anyone else wants to come PM me and we'll meet up
P.S. I don't know this shit at all 2/7/2006 2:35:20 PM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
^The thing about Sylvia's class is that you only have to memorize, you don't have to know/understand ANYTHING. 2/7/2006 3:13:29 PM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
she said we gotta know 7 other pka's. the side chains. those are on page 63 (3rd ed) right.. 2/7/2006 9:49:09 PM |
WPackTwirler Starting Lineup 65 Posts user info edit post |
Can anyone give an example for each of these? monopole-monopole monopole-dipole dipole-dipole dipole-induced dipole induced dipole-induced dipole
thanks 2/7/2006 9:52:12 PM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
hit up google
look on page 26 of knopps notes
[Edited on February 7, 2006 at 10:02 PM. Reason : ] 2/7/2006 9:58:49 PM |
Kitty B All American 19088 Posts user info edit post |
ryan, you never called me, you ass
i was at the library till 9:30 2/7/2006 10:59:49 PM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
don't study! You got that shit on lock 2/8/2006 10:51:28 AM |
RattlerRyan All American 8660 Posts user info edit post |
shit I went to the library and looked for you, didn't see you, so I didn't bother to call (plus I left your number at home and it wasn't in my new cell phone yet)
sorry bout the mixup, hope you still love me
[Edited on February 8, 2006 at 1:00 PM. Reason : ] 2/8/2006 1:00:35 PM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
ryan,was that you at the front of class after lecture attempting to talk to her.
sounded like she was chewing your head off 2/8/2006 1:29:05 PM |
RattlerRyan All American 8660 Posts user info edit post |
yup yup
Is it too much to ask to have an actual comprehensive list of all the memorizable structures??? 2/8/2006 1:33:35 PM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, i was walking down and was like "man she hates when people talk to her after class", then i thought i recognized you. and was snooping to your convo. yeah something about structures, man she was an ass to you. 2/8/2006 1:39:04 PM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
The structures are all in knopp's notes and she tells you where to stop. Why would you need a list? 2/8/2006 3:22:18 PM |
Kitty B All American 19088 Posts user info edit post |
^agreed. chemfinder.com has all the ones she didn't have drawn for us 2/8/2006 5:54:04 PM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
FYI, when drawing the structures INCLUDE ALL BONDS... even O-H.... don't forget those Hydrogens either.
The -0.1 and -0.2 points add up really quick on the structures. 2/9/2006 12:07:40 PM |
Kitty B All American 19088 Posts user info edit post |
she actually told us we didn't have to draw bonds between O-H and N-H, but i'm gonna do it anyway to be safe 2/9/2006 12:41:30 PM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
she said that if it doesnt say "draw all bonds" then you dont gotta put the bond between OH.
but if it says, then ya better do it. 2/9/2006 12:42:53 PM |
danancsu6 Starting Lineup 60 Posts user info edit post |
Just a little side note, the review sheet she gave us in class, is not one that she writes up. It's done by someone else, so she basically doesnt go off that sheet for the test. Majority of everything she talks about in class is on the review sheet, so it's a good way to go back over things you may not remember, but don't expect that this is ONLY the things she'll put on the test.
Also, where it says to list the 4 protein analysis methods, and describe them, she's never asked that on any other exams, and she may only want you to list a few of them, not explain or describe them. 2/9/2006 4:40:11 PM |
Kitty B All American 19088 Posts user info edit post |
were the protein assays all the biuret and stuff, or the PAGE and stuff? 2/9/2006 4:57:38 PM |
danancsu6 Starting Lineup 60 Posts user info edit post |
The protein assays are Biuret, BCA, dye binding (bradford), and Lowry reaction. 2/9/2006 5:08:52 PM |
Kitty B All American 19088 Posts user info edit post |
k, that's what i thought. 2/9/2006 5:39:47 PM |
dubya162 New Recruit 49 Posts user info edit post |
Do we have to know the pKa values and if so does any body no where I can find them for the different groups 2/9/2006 7:43:42 PM |
biodork New Recruit 35 Posts user info edit post |
You need to know the pKa values of the side chains along with the general pKa values for amines, alcohols, thiols etc which can be found on page 64 in the text and in the course pack. 2/9/2006 9:23:17 PM |
dubya162 New Recruit 49 Posts user info edit post |
awesome, thanks man 2/9/2006 10:10:41 PM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
Sylvia is HOT 2/9/2006 11:30:39 PM |
dubya162 New Recruit 49 Posts user info edit post |
is the reason that phosphate has three pKa's because of where the double bond is located 2/9/2006 11:43:21 PM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
feeelin gooooood 2/10/2006 4:21:05 AM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
you're all gonna fail...for real2/10/2006 8:23:25 AM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
so, how is the test treating you guys?
BTW, i saw three tables of people studying for Sylvia's test at the library yesterday (Thursday). Seemed like every single on of them had AT LEAST 5 old tests. They also had them out around the TAs and were asking them questions.
In summary, this class is just about networking and how many old tests you can find to study with.
[Edited on February 10, 2006 at 9:31 AM. Reason : sss] 2/10/2006 9:28:44 AM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
^stop living in the past 2/10/2006 9:57:24 AM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "is the reason that phosphate has three pKa's because of where the double bond is located" |
It can donate three different hydrogens.2/10/2006 10:10:00 AM |
deez29 All American 622 Posts user info edit post |
dont let this class rape you 2/10/2006 10:23:40 AM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
^^^get off my balls sweety 2/10/2006 10:46:49 AM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
holy shit.
i dont know what to say
either i didnt study enough
or i studied the wrong shit.
well no, i studying a lot and everything. its just that 50 minutes rushed me a bit. 2/10/2006 11:05:26 AM |
DeeDee21 All American 9905 Posts user info edit post |
i died a little today. 2/10/2006 11:38:43 AM |
bumpintahoe All American 2077 Posts user info edit post |
^and ^^ happens to everybody, every semester. you'll do fine in the end. 2/10/2006 2:55:17 PM |
Kitty B All American 19088 Posts user info edit post |
i apparently studied the wrong shit. roughly 50% of the test was non-review.
"if you know the study guide, you'll pass." i guess that means "by the skin of your teeth" 2/10/2006 3:25:23 PM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
^ exactly.
2/10/2006 8:20:36 PM |
scoobymd All American 3463 Posts user info edit post |
my contribution to this thread:
Dr. Sylvia is one of the best professors out there. She's got a very pure heart, her intentions are clean... so if she yells/makes fun/harasses you... she's doing it only for your good ;-)
Yes, she is Hott. 2/11/2006 10:29:00 AM |