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"I never want to see atsur dribbling the ball with less than 5 minutes left in a game "

THANK YOU

yES

[Edited on January 18, 2006 at 9:29 PM. Reason : .]

1/18/2006 9:28:59 PM

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"the "stupid" part was that he didn't know we only played duke once this season i mean, probably every reporter and everyone listening knew this was the only game between us and duke"

yeah but that just shows that he doesn't have only the big games marked on his calendar he takes things one game at a time to focus on. I really think for his part it's a minute detail to keep up with.

[Edited on January 18, 2006 at 9:29 PM. Reason : .]

1/18/2006 9:29:00 PM

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"I never want to see atsur dribbling the ball with less than 5 minutes left in a game unless he's across the timeline or the other team isn't pressing"

1/18/2006 9:29:23 PM

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"we'll get them when we play them next time this year"

fuck that! let's get them in the ACC Tournament final game. hasn't Herb faced K in the final 2 times in his career? perhaps the third times the charm.

1/18/2006 9:29:38 PM

^i agree; when the pressure is on he takes the worst shots

1/18/2006 9:30:35 PM

^^ that's pretty much the only way we can face them if we stay in second place

[Edited on January 18, 2006 at 9:31 PM. Reason : .]

1/18/2006 9:30:51 PM

noone who watched that game can refuse to give state respect

1/18/2006 9:32:10 PM

that might have been the loudest Cameron will get this year, besides the Carolina game.

1/18/2006 9:33:11 PM

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"^^ that's pretty much the only way we can face them if we stay in second place "

Hell no, I'd almost rather come in 3rd so we can Dodge Carolina. We cannot beat athletic teams.

1/18/2006 9:33:12 PM

^plz to see Ga Tech, GW, and BC

1/18/2006 9:33:54 PM

well someone let me know what little press we get in the highlights on SportsCenter tonight. I figure it will be "Dook ties its for thier best start since the 92' season. (Slob, Slob, Slob). [Highlights of Dook only], Now lets look forward to the the Best Rivlry EVAR!!!"

1/18/2006 9:34:23 PM

None of which have half of the athletic talent of UNC

1/18/2006 9:34:33 PM

XM was playing the duke feed of the game. IN post game, Coach K was pretty up front about how they won:

They planned to shut down the 3 and give up the inside and they did. He thought duke played better in the first half too -- we only got some fast break points to get up.

In the second half, he said they called a lot less plays and did much better. In the first half, he said we were playing like we knew their plays and counters for their plays. As a result, they decided to just run a general motion offense and let their players make plays -- obviously that worked.

Lastly, he observed that we couldn't score against them in the half court in the second half.
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Anyway, same shit different year. K knows how to win in any situation.

[Edited on January 18, 2006 at 9:36 PM. Reason : sdfkj]

1/18/2006 9:35:14 PM

We can't beat athletic teams? Miami has only athletes, as well as GT and BC. Duke has similar players to us (but better) and run a lot of the same system with bringin the big man to the top and setting a lot of screens. Carolina is very athletic as well, but they will all be on the bench next year.

1/18/2006 9:36:23 PM

beating GT, BC, etc.... is OK
but it would be nice to beat UNC or Duke once in a while...

[Edited on January 18, 2006 at 9:37 PM. Reason : ya]

1/18/2006 9:37:35 PM

im really really depressed

1/18/2006 9:37:58 PM

i can't bitch about anything. i'd give my left one to play them at the RBC center this year though.

GG Ced. Keep on keeping on.

1/18/2006 9:38:51 PM

Alright...for clarification


Athetic teams that run the court with super-talented players.


Miami? I could play for Miami
GT? Young. Somewhat talented, but young....very young.
GW? Comparing their talent with UNC's is just wrong.


UNC always runs circles around us. Duke is pretty athletic, but they play more of a halfcourt, methodical offense like State does. UNC runs at full throttle, and they always run us off of the court. I'd rather play Duke than UNC any day.

[Edited on January 18, 2006 at 9:39 PM. Reason : ]

1/18/2006 9:39:01 PM

^ get used to it. This is NC State every year. every year I hope for something differnet. Some type of huge win. And we got one last year against UCONN. Just glad its still early and I hope we can finish stronger and put this behind us and focus on beat Wake on Saturday.

1/18/2006 9:39:22 PM

Posted this on packpride.. Copy it here

I'm not going to read the thread because I'll probably just roll my eyes. Here is my ONE thought:

The best two teams in the ACC played tonight at Cameron Indoor. It was a hard fought game and both teams showed why each will go a long way this year. Duke took away a strength and we found another. We lost to a very talented and experienced team and I hope we get another crack at them come March.

Good.. no GREAT game Simmons. I liked the adjustment to go inside when it was apparent Duke was overplayig the wings. Cedric said two things in the postgame that sum it up:

1) "We'll just have to get them back in the ACC tourney"
2) "We need to learn, as a team, how to FINISH"

Can't wait until Saturday afternoon. For the first time in forever it seems like the team just can't wait to get 'the bad taste out of their mouths' instead of feeling sorry for themselves.

GO PACK!!!

1/18/2006 9:40:29 PM

Actually....if you had told me we were going to make 2 3-pointers before the game started, I would have taken a 13 point loss right away.

1/18/2006 9:40:58 PM

^^ thanks for the great post.

u actually made me feel alot better.

that and these anti-depression pills and this box of ice cream and this Cosmopolitan magazine.

1/18/2006 9:44:00 PM

Nice NY

1/18/2006 9:50:07 PM

ok regardless, saturday we fucking pack the damn RBC center and come back strong with a Wake ASS WHOOPING. i have a sour taste in my mouth from the last time we played them here in the RBC time to open up a can of whoop ass.

1/18/2006 9:52:15 PM

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"with a Wake ASS WHOOPING"

shouldn't be hard

1/18/2006 9:52:48 PM

We should light Wake up like a Christmas tree.


I just hope we don't have a Hangover from the Duke loss

1/18/2006 9:54:05 PM

We'll be fine this year. We got a damn good basketball team. Duke is damn good too, and even better in Cameron.

1/18/2006 10:35:40 PM

wtf!?!?! a post-game thread.... what kind of fucking sense does this make.

i though there was an *official* NC State v X thread

1/18/2006 10:51:09 PM

^Easy pal. This is all CarZin's idea.

1/18/2006 11:21:47 PM

I don't like Herb, never did.....but I thought we played a good game against Duke.

1/18/2006 11:26:02 PM

herb sucks

cottage cheese is gross

princeton is a better school than nebraska wesleyan

but i like carrots

1/18/2006 11:27:03 PM

^agreed!

1/18/2006 11:30:06 PM

the veteran sports talk posters are killing me tonight, THEY KNOW ALL TOO WELL

1/18/2006 11:30:36 PM

Cameron was loud, but I thought it was actually louder for the Maryland game... maybe because I was stoned

Regardless, I was at the game and I'll just give you my thoughts whether you want them or not:
1. Simmons was a beast, I can't tell you how many times I heard Dook fans cussing at him and just generally whining about him fouling all the time. At one point the students were chating to the refs "Watch Simmons hook!" That just means that he was a man tonight.

2. Grant needs to hang on to the damn ball

3. McRoberts' mom is a total MILF

4. We played a hell of a game, we gave the #1 team in the country a run for their money and those Dook fans about shit themselves.

1/18/2006 11:30:54 PM

I was looking at an independent Duke fan site dukebasketballreport.com after the game and saw this quote from the guy who runs the site for the most part:

"The final score was 81-68, but if this was an 13 point win then the South won the war. State gave Duke all it wanted. The difference was that Duke knew what to do in the closing minutes and State hasnt completely figured it out yet. We said the other day that they were good enough to win the national championship, and nothing we saw Wednesday convinced us otherwise. That's a heck of a team they have in Raleigh."

It is nice to see that kind of respect for our team after we play Duke.

1/19/2006 1:07:19 AM

well, it was really a 6 point game before we started fouling. however, that guy's an idiot. he underrates poise at end of game situations. you can't win 6 games in a row without facing adversity and overcoming it.

We simply don't have the poise and mentality to win in end game situations. All 3 of our losses have come from an inability to put together an offense when we need the points the most and when they are defending the best.

We don't have a playmaker, someone who will step up and will us toward victory. Somehow our worst play maker always ends up with the ball -- evtimov, atsur. A playmaker is someone who is supposed to draw the other teams defense and create some sort of imbalance that we can exploit.

As of today, ced is about the only guy who can do that. Too bad the rest of the team switches to julius hodge mode and just stands around, expecting ced to win the game by himself.

Better coaches on better teams regularly can pull out close wins.

[Edited on January 19, 2006 at 1:15 AM. Reason : sdff]

1/19/2006 1:14:17 AM

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"We held our own, played a GREAT game... but fell short."

yeah, about six minutes short

1/19/2006 1:21:53 AM

The extent to which I loathe you in b-ball season cannot be explained in words.

1/19/2006 1:22:31 AM

hehe. are you ready for a shocker? I actually thought we played pretty well today, up until those final six minutes. I could have done without many of the dumb turnovers, but I thought we handled the pressure really well and we responded to Duke really well. just them damned final 6 minutes

1/19/2006 1:40:35 AM

That 6 pt. play shit is only something Duke could do... in Cameron... with out JJ even touching the ball... I mean WTF.

1/19/2006 1:46:55 AM

Bennerman seems like playing well setup plays recently.
should have gone with Bennerman penetrating then pass to Ced at final plays
Atsur really had unusual turnovers which made him look stupid

But overall good game.... We went head to head(or even better) against #1 team in the nation for 35 minutes

1/19/2006 2:20:22 AM

I really dont care for JJ Redick or duke.

However this article that was posted in chit chat

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4415484/

is mostly on the money. Duke has a solid, respectable program without the amount of thugs and arrogant A-holes that UNC has. Duke thinks just as highly of themselves, but arent as rude about it.

1/19/2006 2:28:33 AM

theme of the last 4-5 years.

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"NO b/c we can't close out tight games "

1/19/2006 3:56:18 AM

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"you can't win 6 games in a row without facing adversity and overcoming it."

True, but it's still relatively early in the season. This team still has an opportunity to learn. Another good win streak, and our confidence will be on the upswing going into the postseason.


A few encouraging quotes from the AP article:

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"That's the best team we've played," Blue Devils coach Mike Krzyzewski said. "They know what they're doing and they do it well. It's a big win for us."

Could just be coachspeak, but still nice to hear.

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"We've got to learn how to finish," Simmons said. "It was kind of the same thing that happened at the Carolina game. But I got some confidence and I learned that I can play with the best."

Get 'em, Ced!

1/19/2006 4:24:56 AM

I was at the game last night. I was impressed with Cedric Simmons. Good game guys.

1/19/2006 7:21:28 AM

Anyone think the refs were unfair?

1/19/2006 7:23:05 AM

No. it was a well officiated game.


There's no possible way to blame that on the refs

1/19/2006 7:31:37 AM

^Yes. Nice to hear a reasonable voice.

1/19/2006 10:03:04 AM

refs were good.

minus the back to back backcourt violations near teh beginning that is. and a couple calls on brackman.

we had a few wtf calls go our way too though

1/19/2006 10:24:15 AM

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""That's the best team we've played," Blue Devils coach Mike Krzyzewski said. "They know what they're doing and they do it well. It's a big win for us.""

its already been posted in this thread, but it never gets old.

1/19/2006 12:15:26 PM