panthers should draft tramain hall

1/23/2006 11:22:21 PM

http://www.brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=377791&page=2

1/23/2006 11:24:22 PM

I think the best way to help Smith would be to draft a really good TE so that d's just couldn't roll the entire coverage to smith's side...say vernon davis from maryland, he is a freak (but he might go way too early for the panthers)....if that happens maybe marcades lewis from UCLA

panthers need to sign a good rb in free agency somewhere; i think that is a better option than signing one late in the first round

o-line help would be good too, but not essential....they dominated the bears and looked great some weeks and terrible others; that is more coaching than lack of talent

DT would be a concern if i was GM...none of them are getting younger and jenkins is constantly hurt

RE-SIGN WILL WITHERSPOON

1/24/2006 12:11:42 PM

TE pickup, many free agent trades at WR with Smith staying...RB pickup either late round or through FA...Oline trade straight up and a few safety pickups for depth.

still not a fan of Jake.

1/24/2006 12:16:59 PM

if we were able to add a tight end and a decent running back we would be pretty solid for another super bowl run.
None of our guys are getting old and i can say that for alot of other superbowl contenders.

1/24/2006 12:45:03 PM

^^ dude what do the panthers have to trade?

NFL trades are wayyy rare

all the moves will be made through FA or the draft

1/25/2006 6:50:06 PM

The thing about a good TE is he better sure be able to block or else Fox wont take him.

1/25/2006 8:01:46 PM

http://clevelandbrowns.com/news_room/news/arts/5082.0.html

1/25/2006 11:14:28 PM

I really like the idea of trying to sign Jamal Lewis. If we can shore up RB before the draft, that'd be a big help.

I'd be a lot less concerned about WR if we took care of getting a stud RB. Do that and I think we can try and steal a good one that falls through the first round or two.

1/26/2006 4:49:09 PM

WE MUST GO OUT AND GET A BIG TIME RB OR TE WHETHER IN THE DRAFT OR FREE AGENCY!!!

1/26/2006 6:22:54 PM

The Edge?

Fucking A, dont you people get my hopes up!

2/3/2006 3:39:23 PM

Id really like to see them move up in the draft a little to get lendale white, but thats not going to happen.

jamal lewis would be good, but expensive.

Ricky williams could be a good, cheap back, the dolphins are looking to shed him.

2/10/2006 11:11:06 AM

Ive heard rumors that we may get Alexander

2/10/2006 11:13:31 AM

riiiiiiiiight

2/10/2006 11:15:45 AM

I feel like we have some strong defensive players we can shed for some other types of talent (hmm, hmm, RB). Who do you guys think we can shed on defense for some talent on the other side of the ball and still have a strong D?

2/10/2006 11:17:45 AM

That would be great. We could average 30+ a game.

2/10/2006 11:18:06 AM

The thing about our defense is that we've got quality backups at most every position, which is a must in the nfl. We've got to keep that

2/10/2006 11:19:39 AM

BIG TRADES RARELY HAPPEN IN THE NFL PEOPLE

2/10/2006 11:26:15 AM

if there are any trades, they will usually invlove the draft

There will probally be a pretty big trade around TO. He is still under contract with the eagles, correct?

2/10/2006 11:28:58 AM

owens to the broncos

james to the falcons

alexander with the seahawks

dunn to the colts

2/10/2006 11:30:58 AM

doubt it, if alexander was going to stay with seattle, they would have gave him an extention before he became an unrestricted fa. Seattle won't pay as much as some other teams are willing to.

2/10/2006 11:35:11 AM

alexander wants to stay there though

that is key


they didnt resign him because they have to move some salary in the offseason

2/10/2006 11:37:16 AM

Atl is a possibility for owens as well.

2/10/2006 11:47:03 AM

their owner said already that he doesnt want owens

2/10/2006 11:47:59 AM

Fasano in the draft

2/10/2006 11:50:58 AM

drafting a te in the 1st rd would be a pick in a te heavy draft


wait till the 2nd rd and grab a WR to help smith or a rb if one falls there, or possibly a replacement for witherspoon if he goes

[Edited on February 10, 2006 at 11:55 AM. Reason : c]

2/10/2006 11:54:54 AM

anyone heard anything about fields' prospects for coming back next year

2/10/2006 11:58:19 AM

fields is prolly gonna retire and be a coach

2/10/2006 12:06:01 PM

that's too bad, if he could beat it again and come back like he did a few yrs ago, he would be a legend.

2/10/2006 12:08:12 PM

LONG.....BUT EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE.

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"For the second time in three seasons, Panthers head coach John Fox led his team to the NFC Championship game. Although they failed to advance to the Super Bowl this time around, the Panthers have established themselves as one of the NFC's most dominant teams. Although Fox was known for a run-first mentality early in his career, he has shed that reputation by having two different players lead the league in receiving in each of the last two seasons. In 2004, it was Muhsin Muhammad who led the league with 1,405 yards. After Moose took the money and ran to the Windy City, Steve Smith stepped up to lead all receivers in 2005 with 1,563 yards. Perhaps one of the reasons that Fox has changed his tune is that he can't seem to keep his running backs healthy. The Panthers appeared to be as deep as any club in the league at that running back prior to the season, but injuries to Stephen Davis and DeShaun Foster forced Fox to resort to using backup fullback Nick Goings as the starting tailback during the NFC Championship game. Unfortunately for general manager Marty Hurney, this is only one area of need the Panthers will be forced to address during the offseason. Needs Davis' career in Carolina appears to be over. No, really, we mean it this time. Last year, most football scribes assumed that Davis wouldn't be able to recover from the delicate microfracture surgery procedure that ended his 2004 campaign. He returned to score a dozen touchdowns before team officials placed him on injured reserve. Davis maintains that he was healthy enough to continue playing, but his 3.1 yards per carry average convinced the coaching staff that he wasn't the same back he was in 2003 when he carried the team to a Super Bowl appearance. With Davis unlikely to return, the Panthers will make every effort to re-sign Foster, whose play late in the season convinced some team officials that he could take 20 carries per game. However, Carolina won't have a lot of cap space, so we don't expect them to get into a bidding war for a tailback who has suffered three major injuries over the last four seasons, including the broken fibula that sidelined him for the NFC Championship game. Fox doesn't consider Nick Goings an every down rusher, nor is he crazy about 2004 second-round pick Eric Shelton. Although there are some media members in the Carolinas who believe Shelton could play a big role next season, there is also a chance he could be cut in training camp. After all, there were rumblings that the Panthers were going to do just that last summer, but the rookie broke his foot, earning himself a spot on injured reserve. Believe it or not, the Panthers need help at wide receiver. Smith needs a legitimate wingman to attract some defensive attention. For that matter, they could also be in the hunt for a No. 3 receiver if the ancient Ricky Proehl opts for retirement, as he indicated he would do in 2004 before being talked into playing another season. Proehl is hinting at returning for another season, but nothing is official. Fox still thinks highly of Colbert even though he struggled mightily during his sophomore season, so there's always a chance the Panthers will keep him in the No. 2 role and look for a pass-catching tight end instead. Hurney thought he had just the man for the job when he signed Freddie Jones last year, but the veteran unexpectedly retired during training camp. Interestingly enough, the Panthers had their eyes on Steelers tight end Heath Miller before he suffered a pre-draft injury that lowered his stock. The Panthers would like to beef up their offensive line. They made an effort to begin the process last year when they signed free agent guard Mike Wahle. With him and tackle Jordan Gross, the Panthers have two top offensive linemen. Re-signing Jeff Mitchell or replacing him with a player of equal ability will be crucial to Jake Delhomme's protection and to the success of the running game. Speaking of Delhomme, don't be surprised if the Panthers are forced to add a new backup. Team officials have made it clear that the would like to re-sign No. 2 signal caller Chris Weinke, but he intends to use the free agency period to search for a better opportunity to earn playing time or to go back home and play for the Vikings. Stefan LeFors should return as the No. 3 quarterback during his second season as a pro. Defensively, the Panthers must start planning ahead at the tackle positions. Kris Jenkins has missed 27 games over the last two seasons. He'll start as long as he stays healthy, but there's no telling how long that will be. Meanwhile, fellow starter Brentson Buckner will be 35 this year. And without proven backups behind Jenkins and Buckner, we expect the Panthers to make this a priority position during the offseason. It remains to be seen whether the Panthers will have enough cap space to re-sign unrestricted free agent linebacker Will Witherspoon. If Witherspoon bolts, Fox will consider moving safety Thomas Davis into the starting weakside role. Thus, Witherspoon's departure might create more of a need at safety than at linebacker. Salary Cap Situation The Panthers are roughly $6 million over the projected $92 million salary cap, according to the Charlotte Observer. Davis has a $3.8 million cap figure. Thus, we expect him to be released before March, when he is scheduled to receive a $1 million bonus. Meanwhile, Hurney is also scheduled to meet with the agent who represents defensive end Julius Peppers, who is scheduled to count nearly $15 million against the salary cap in 2006. All indications are that Peppers will be flexible, which will more cap space. Unrestricted Free Agents RB DeShaun Foster, QB Chris Weinke, WR Ricky Proehl, C Jeff Mitchell, G Tutan Reyes, T Todd Fordham, T Matt Hill, LB Will Witherspoon, S Colin Branch, CB Dante Wesley, Restricted Free Agents TE Mike Seidman, S Colin Branch, DT Kindal Moorehead, CB Ricky Manning, LB Vinny Ciurciu The Draft The Panthers hold the No. 27 overall pick in the draft. Given the age and durability concerns with Buckner and Jenkins, it wouldn't surprise us to see the team make defensive tackle a top priority. If they chose to go this route, the top candidates would be Haloti Ngata (Oregon), Brodrick Bunkley (Florida State), and Gabe Watson (Michigan). Barring a trade up in the draft, Bunkley and Watson are more realistic picks. If the Panthers fail to re-sign Foster and don't land a solid back via free agency, they could use the draft to fill the need. Barring a trade, Reggie Bush (USC), LenDale White (USC), and DeAngelo Williams (Memphis) will most likely be off the board before Carolina picks. However, there is a chance that Lawrence Maroney (Minnesota) could still be available when it's their turn in round one. Injury Watch Foster's broken fibula should heal before training camp opens. In the long run, DeShaun's latest injury could be the best thing that could have happened to the Panthers. His free agent stock was soaring before he suffered the divisional playoff game against the Bears, but the durability questions are resurfacing now that he's suffered three major injuries in just four seasons. Davis wasn't actually injured when the team placed him on the injured reserve list. Team officials were simply frustrated with his lack of production, and blamed his surgically repaired right knee. He'll be available for the offseason workouts if the Panthers want him, but he shouldn't hold his breath while waiting for their phone call. Jenkins tore the ACL in his right knee way back in week one. Thus, he should be ready to take part in the offseason workout program. Although his injuries have frustrated team officials, they value him as a run-stopper, so the starting job is his as long as he gets back to full strength."

2/10/2006 1:00:13 PM

Quote :

"Proehl is hinting at returning for another season, but nothing is official. "

word

2/10/2006 1:04:40 PM

^ where did you get this?

2/10/2006 1:06:20 PM

wow sounds like an echo from my posts in my nfl draft thread

2/10/2006 1:17:44 PM

you asking me?? I got that from that giant thing in the post ablve mine. Ricky Proehl is the shit. We made a sign for the Bills game begging him to come back for another year and he looked right at it a few times. He knows he has got the fans on his side.

2/10/2006 1:26:29 PM

^^but this is strictly devoted to the Panthers.

stop trolling please.

no one gives a shit that you made an NFL draft thread.

[Edited on February 10, 2006 at 1:26 PM. Reason : asdf]

2/10/2006 1:26:34 PM

wow, i had no idea they didn't like shelton. i thought he was the future. guess i'll shut up now

2/10/2006 1:26:52 PM

^^ you fucking dicknose,

i said that the info in that long quote was what i had said in the nfl draft thread

i am not trolling

look at my other posts

2/10/2006 1:29:16 PM

You need a RB, WR, and a trainer capable of keeping Dan Morgan on the field if you're going to keep giving the man money.

2/10/2006 1:35:40 PM

^

2/10/2006 1:36:07 PM

so long as we're goin that far, we should also hire someone to teach delhomme the difference between a good decision and a bad decision.

2/10/2006 1:46:54 PM

he's always thinking of that dirty rice blitz

2/10/2006 3:29:46 PM

Quote :

"so long as we're goin that far, we should also hire someone to teach delhomme the difference between a good decision and a bad decision."

i laughed

2/10/2006 3:42:20 PM

Antonio Bryant not going to be resigned by the Browns.

1000 yard reciever last season and he would have an even better arm throwing to him than Dilfer. Could be a decent fit if he wanted to play for a contender.

2/13/2006 1:42:39 PM

bring mohammed back!

2/13/2006 2:29:36 PM

bring mushin back! I think we also need someone to replace dan morgan, i like the guy but the linebackers are not as dominant as they need to be compared to our d line

2/13/2006 2:58:48 PM

Moose is too old. Not too old to play next season, but too old to sign him to the 3-5 year that he wants.

We need to sign someone who has been in the league for a few years and has been productive. The hell with a 1-2 year deal. We need consistency.

I'm telling you, Antonio Bryant could be an excellent fit.

Big, Athletic, and fast as hell. Pretty good blocker if i remember correctly.

[Edited on February 13, 2006 at 3:09 PM. Reason : asdfd]

2/13/2006 3:08:36 PM

Wait, did the Bears release Muhammad?????

2/13/2006 3:47:17 PM

The Colts just issued a Press release saying that they will not use the Franchise tag on Edgerrin James.

We seriously need to pick him up.

I know we need another WR, but an awesome RB would do just as much, if not more to relieve the pressure on S. Smith. Either way you are making the safties come closer and allow smith to use his speed.

2/23/2006 11:35:38 AM

Needs:

1) A solid WR, who puts fear into defenses like Steve Smith
2) 2 more Offensive lineman, if you watched the Superbowl than you know why the hell we need some
3) BENCH DELHOMME, and utilize Weinke's talents before he becomes to old to be productive
4) A kick ass TE, who runs the 40 in around 4.5 secdonds, is big as an ox, and has hands like Jerry Rice!!


...can we say NFC Championship one more time...GO PANTHERS!

2/23/2006 12:25:01 PM

I like Fasano in the 2nd round for the Panthers, it would be a great pickup and fit

2/23/2006 12:44:46 PM