kwsmith2 All American 2696 Posts user info edit post |
The most you are supposed to put on the machine at State is 950. At least thats what is says on the sled.
I would be interested to know exactly what counts as a proper press. I have worked out with 12 -13 plates per side at Beyond Fitness. I would think its a proper press but I don't know what the standards set up on here are. 2/10/2006 9:52:44 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
wow wolfweb fitness has reached a new low
maxing out on leg press?! I'm sure we'll see that at a powerlifting competition
do some fucking squats you pussies 2/11/2006 2:24:03 AM |
bruiserbrody All American 728 Posts user info edit post |
I could care less how much someone can leg press. Get up underneath a bar and squat some of the weight that has been mentioned in this thread, parallel, and you have my attention, otherwise STFU! 2/11/2006 7:42:38 AM |
Amsterdam718 All American 15134 Posts user info edit post |
^
true. 2/11/2006 7:58:43 AM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
it's all the fucking same. Who fucking cares what you can squat either? 2/11/2006 8:55:01 AM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
I care about 3 things; functional strength, over all health, and aesthetics. That's why I go to the gym. I'm not there to impress anybody, not the meatheads over there leg pressing the world or the chick in the spandex who has been on the hamstring machine for the last 20 minutes trying to get the attention of every guy who walks by. 2/11/2006 10:12:18 AM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it's all the fucking same. " |
haha, so wrong2/11/2006 1:12:10 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
haha Noen... squatting is NOT the same as the legpress at all! 2/11/2006 1:52:02 PM |
firmbuttgntl Suspended 11931 Posts user info edit post |
Two chicks from the atrium 2/11/2006 2:14:07 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it's all the fucking same. Who fucking cares what you can squat either?
" |
actually not...at all2/11/2006 2:53:54 PM |
bruiserbrody All American 728 Posts user info edit post |
I wish they were the same, my squat would be awesome! However, no, they are not. 2/11/2006 3:14:13 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
I can legpress a goddamned semi truck
[Edited on February 11, 2006 at 3:15 PM. Reason : RAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH] 2/11/2006 3:15:27 PM |
FitchNCSU All American 3283 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "any cycleist/soccer player will pwn a leg press." |
You sure about this? Not always true. I have seen soccer players struggle at leg press, while I have seen some fat sedentary dude load the shit out of leg press and squat a bus no problem. Its fast twitch versus slow twitch muscle development. Just because someone has muscular legs doesn't automatically make them able to throw up weight.2/11/2006 4:29:27 PM |
bruiserbrody All American 728 Posts user info edit post |
just because you play soccer and ride a bike doen't mean you will have big muscular legs. Its mostly genetics and/or heavy weightlifting. 2/11/2006 4:33:04 PM |
FitchNCSU All American 3283 Posts user info edit post |
yea, thats true 2/11/2006 4:36:40 PM |
MathFreak All American 14478 Posts user info edit post |
I'd like to add that if you say "and yeah" three times in one message, you sound retarded. 2/11/2006 8:34:33 PM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
I did 1415 lbs. 3 reps on it, that was 30 plates, 15 45's on each side
looked like it would hold 3 more 45's on each side
so my guess for the max it would hold is around 1700 lbs. 2/11/2006 8:54:45 PM |
thenate99 All American 1636 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Squattin
Way down this road, in a gym far away, A young man was once heard to say, “I’ve repped high and I’ve repped low, No matter what I do my legs won't grow.”
He tried leg extensions, leg curls, and leg presses, too. Trying to cheat these sissy workouts he’d do. From the corner of the gym where the big men train, Through a cloud of chalk and the midst of pain.
Where the big iron rides high and threatens lives, Where the noise is made with big forty fives. A deep voice bellowed as he wrapped his knees, A very big man with legs like trees.
Laughing as he snatched another plate from the stack, Chalking his hands and his monstrous back, Said, “Boy stop lying and don’t say you’ve forgotten, Trouble with you is you ain’t been squattin.”" |
FUCK LEG PRESS2/13/2006 2:31:31 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
you tell me this like I haven't done power cleans, deadlifts, squats and every other retarded weight lifting movement for years.
I realize they are all completely different in both muscle groupings, stresses and movements. My POINT, all you meatheads, is they are all the fucking same. It's just a way to prove you can lift X more than Joe homo next to you.
If you were really concerned about building strength, you'd have realized long ago that eccentric contractions are how you build muscle and strength. Yet power cleans, deadlifts and squats are all MAJORLY concentric contraction movements. All you are really accomplishing in those movements is a display of your current ability.
Want to get stronger? Want to build mass? Negatives (eccentric) are the way to go. Yet amazingly you might find one guy in 100 in any gym who has any fucking clue about his own physiology. 2/13/2006 2:50:16 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
Man, Why doesn't everyone do that then? 2/13/2006 2:55:16 PM |
Sleik All American 11177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you might find one guy in 100 in any gym who has any fucking clue about his own physiology" |
2/13/2006 2:56:49 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "power cleans, deadlifts and squats" |
also very tough for the beginer2/13/2006 2:57:07 PM |
MrUniverse All American 26072 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Want to get stronger? Want to build mass? Negatives (eccentric) are the way to go. Yet amazingly you might find one guy in 100 in any gym who has any fucking clue about his own physiology. " |
well you might want to clarify for some people who might take you literally and their entire routine be nothing but negatives... that this should and i advocate this for people who hit walls and cant get stronger, to use this technique to jump start your muscles and get them growing again2/13/2006 2:57:31 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
yes you should have balance in your workouts. You need concentric contractions and the combination movements to aid in muscle stability and microcontrols. But *technically* speaking, there is nothing wrong with doing entire negative workouts. Doing complete failure workouts for a week or two and then going back to a normal balanced freeweight regimen isn't a bad thing. 2/13/2006 3:12:46 PM |
MrUniverse All American 26072 Posts user info edit post |
agreed, i have a failure routine that runs for about 6 weeks but then you take another 6 off, def not continuous by any means 2/13/2006 3:18:56 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
^you just gained a lot of points in my workout masterbation book. I doubt more than a handful of users here even know what a true failure workout is. 2/13/2006 3:20:32 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Y'all are too uptight. Just do some 12 oz curls and you'll be straight. 2/13/2006 3:23:36 PM |
MrUniverse All American 26072 Posts user info edit post |
i had a buddy of mine put me onto it and it fucking kills me, you lift 3 times a week, thats it
i am never so tired and sore in my life, obviously need a spotter, so it is tough to run the routine as i dont have a workout partner
would be asking people left and right in the gym for spots 2/13/2006 3:24:21 PM |
Ihatespida All American 7520 Posts user info edit post |
I AM CURRENTLY IN THE MIDDLE OF A FAILURE WORKOUT AFTER BEING AT A PLEATEAU FOR ABOUT A YEAR....I HAVE NEVER BEEN STRONGER IN MY LIFE....IT ONLY TAKES ABOUT 3 EXERCISES ON 1 MUSCLE GROUP BEFORE I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE 2/13/2006 3:30:36 PM |
MrUniverse All American 26072 Posts user info edit post |
try doing one exercise per muscle group.....
thats what mine runs 2/13/2006 3:32:39 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
in the failure routine my old roomate and i did, there is absolutely no way to go without a spotter.
in any real failure routine you HAVE to have a dedicated spotter, because they are doing most of the concentric movements for you. 2/13/2006 3:36:50 PM |
Ihatespida All American 7520 Posts user info edit post |
HOW MANY SETS...HOW MANY REPS???? 2/13/2006 3:37:05 PM |
MrUniverse All American 26072 Posts user info edit post |
the first couple sets are just warm ups, not much weight
first set
put on as much weight so you rep 8 to failure
15-20 second break, mind you you do your entire set then your partner goes, there is no trading out
next set is 5 reps, same weight
5-10 econd break
next set is 3 reps, same weight
the limited break inbetween will or should put you on par to fail at the last one of the sets all the time
there are some exceptions for this routine, deadlifts and legs, mostly squats carry a different from but similiar principle
dont quote me on this, i dont have the link for the routine on this computer, but from what i can remmeber the breakdown is as follows
it is a 2 day break down, day one is chest, tri's, shoulders
day 2 is legs, back and bi's
workout MWF, weekends off, i uually run MWFS TTHS and so on, dont like taking the weekends off completely, but sometimes you have no choice
you do one exercise for each body part on that day even with a partner it shouldnt take you longer then an hour tops to be done
[Edited on February 13, 2006 at 4:07 PM. Reason : there is a variation for this also, ia m trying to find the link, but i cant remember the name]
http://charlespoliquin.com/members/index.php
this i who the routine came from, but this site is loaed with good info anything Charles Poliquin is good
[Edited on February 13, 2006 at 4:09 PM. Reason : ] 2/13/2006 3:58:18 PM |
Ihatespida All American 7520 Posts user info edit post |
A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT I HAVE BEEN DOING BUT SAME BASIC CONCEPT.....I AM ACTUALLY BREAKING BETWEEN SETS ABOUT 60 SECONDS ON 15....ONE WARMUP 6...4...AND 4....THE LAST SET OF FOUR YOU SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO YOURSELF.....IF YOU ARE NOT GETTING HELP YOU AREN'T DOING ENOUGH......I USUALLY DO 3 EXERCISES...OF COURSE USING A LOT OF DUMBELLS AND FREE WEIGHTS...PRETTY MUCH NO MACHINES 2/13/2006 4:14:58 PM |
MrUniverse All American 26072 Posts user info edit post |
I usually pick a 3 exercise rotation for the chest, obvioulsy with the one excercise per body part per day, you dont get too much variation but some things like shoulders, there isnt much to choose form as far as "big strength gainers", but the key is to concentrate on 2 or 3 exercises for that body part that are big strength gainers and rotate them
so week one day one: flat bench
mind you, you do 2 day ones in the first week, so the second day one you would do: incline bench
then week 2 day one is: decline
then week 2 day 2 is back to: flat bench
and it can be machines free weights or whatever, but i stick to the heavy hitters on the exercises so mostly barbells and smith machine
^if you didnt workout at such a homo place we could run this rutine together, but alas you are too metrosexual for yuor own good
[Edited on February 13, 2006 at 4:33 PM. Reason : ] 2/13/2006 4:22:58 PM |