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PinkandBlack
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interested in white pride? heres a good place to start:

http://officialprussianblue.net/



[Edited on February 15, 2006 at 8:44 PM. Reason : .]

2/15/2006 8:43:19 PM

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"Black people were all dragged here"


wow

wow

that is so extremely ignorant

2/15/2006 11:42:51 PM

PinkandBlack
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a small minority migrated here...

but the overwhelming majority in the south were slaves

2/15/2006 11:44:42 PM

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I don't understand the point of the email. I mean it attacked blacks throughout most of it but tried to tie in the rest of the colored folk at the same time.

2/16/2006 12:47:20 AM

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"i didnt read past GrumpyGOP's post
i knew it wouldnt live up"


That's understandable.

But during the revolution, you'll be one of the first ten people I throw up against a wall with a blindfold and a cigarette. It's nothing personal, but desperate times call for desperate measures.

2/16/2006 1:34:39 AM

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"Black people were all dragged here."


Actually the majority of black people we see every day were born here. Quit living in the past.

2/16/2006 7:51:31 AM

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"I think dumbass missed my point.

If you put yourselves in the shoes of other races for a minute, I think you'll see why they get leery of any white pride movement, because those have, without exception, heretofore been involved in some pretty fucked-up, oppressive shit."


and i think you, dumbass, missed my point.

I dont give a fuck what they might be 'leery' of. Its basically saying 'hey, those white people then did this, if these completely different white people here get together it might happen again!'

its the definition of racism. and youre a fucking idiot for posting shit like that.

2/16/2006 9:17:38 AM

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OH RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ALL THE BLACK PEOPLE HERE WOULD BE HERE REGARDLESS OF THE SLAVE TRADE!!!!!!!!!1

OH AND LETS FORGET ABOUT THE SLAVE TRADE AND THE HOLOCAUST B/C LIVING IN THE PAST IS FUCKIN SILLY! OH AND THE POTATO FAMINE TO ADD IN THE SPUD EATERS!

2/16/2006 12:41:55 PM

PinkandBlack
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never mind that the original e-mail reads like the fucking White Pride Manifesto



[Edited on February 16, 2006 at 12:49 PM. Reason : .]

2/16/2006 12:45:18 PM

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"Black pride is a solidarity movement aimed at undoing the lingering racism of the past. It's not aimed at hurting whites; only at advancing an ethnic group that has been held back for the past 400 or so years. They also seek to revive a culture that has been repressed for just as long."



Incorrect stereotype. It is true for a vast majority of black pride, but plenty of black panthers and other lesser known groups were solely filled at anti-white aims.

But you are right to an extent. I think the problem is that "white pride" is now associated with kkk and other shitty movements, so no one can say they're proud to be white and not look like a skinhead. Of course, I could care less about which race I was, because I was taught something about equality of men or some shit.

2/20/2006 1:13:25 PM

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ALL THE BLACK PEOPLE HERE WOULD BE HERE REGARDLESS OF THE SLAVE TRADE!!!!!!!!!1

OH AND LETS FORGET ABOUT THE SLAVE TRADE AND THE HOLOCAUST B/C LIVING IN THE PAST IS FUCKIN SILLY! OH AND THE POTATO FAMINE TO ADD IN THE SPUD EATERS!"


I would bet a lot of blacks would be here without the slave trade. Given, this requires the argument that we would eventually still be a powerful nation without slavery, but lets look at it this way: What if we enslaved only Indians when we got here. We'd still be a powerful nation. So you think no blacks would be here? When did you think the Mexicans got here, when we were a shithole or once we were prosperous. Suerly, there'd be less blacks, but get it straight, Hatians and Africans still come here >200 years after slavery.

2/20/2006 1:16:33 PM

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if i hear that dumbass argument about how "white history month" is march-january, im gonna go insane. Give me one piece of factual information that supports that. When i flip through my tv do i see just white people, when i read the paper is it just about white people, do we have little commercials promoting the things that only white people did, NO. It is this reverse racism that is keeping normal racism alive.

2/20/2006 2:00:30 PM

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white history month is march-january

2/20/2006 2:38:48 PM

Mr. Joshua
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http://nazistomp.ytmnsfw.com/

2/20/2006 2:48:48 PM

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"Give me one piece of factual information that supports that. When i flip through my tv do i see just white people, when i read the paper is it just about white people, do we have little commercials promoting the things that only white people did, NO. It is this reverse racism that is keeping normal racism alive."


durr, just cuz we arent having little segways of ppl talking about great white ppl doesnt mean that isnt the focus. the idea is that most history books and programs in general within our schools are very euro-centric. seriously what did you learn in high school? we did american history, american government, and european history (mostly france, england, germany, italy, and smatterings of other countries mainly in western europe).

the topics many schools teach regarding africa or asia are slim pickins.

2/20/2006 2:49:13 PM

Mr. Joshua
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How about that? May is Asian Pacific American (APA) Heritage Month.

Thanks google.

2/20/2006 2:55:56 PM

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In fact, African history isn't in the World History high school EOGs, so you can imagine how much they're taught in the classroom.

2/20/2006 2:59:29 PM

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"I dont give a fuck what they might be 'leery' of. Its basically saying 'hey, those white people then did this, if these completely different white people here get together it might happen again!'
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The track record is pretty solid. I can't think, off the top of my head, of a single incident where white people got together to talk about how great white was that didn't end poorly for everybody else. Every single time. In other words, from where other people are sitting, it isn't that it might happen again -- it's that it will. I can't blame anybody for fighting that.

Then we look at other races. When black people get together to bask in their blackness, it almost never ends in our oppression. The NAACP never ran cracker pogroms, never tried to keep whitey from voting, never burned anything in my yard.

So, are some of these things racist? Yeah. But it's not what you'd call a malignant racism. Obviously the ideal situation would be one in which there is no racism, but, failing that, I'll allow for some of the benign kind. When I see you devoting an appropriate percentage of your outrage to white racism, then we can talk.

2/20/2006 3:40:49 PM

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Yeah, the history taught in school is Euro-centric. But maybe thats because that is what is important to teach. Cause yeah, lets face it, Eurasian history is far, far more important than sub-saharan african history to understanding the current world.

So people are equating "Black Pride" with "Irish Pride", isn't one a race thing and another a cultural thing?

And shit, half the stuff they teach about "Black History" are lies and half-truths. Newsflash George Washington Carver didn't invent Peanut Butter! omfg! (not that he wasn't a great scientist)

2/20/2006 3:42:51 PM

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" Cause yeah, lets face it, Eurasian history is far, far more important than sub-saharan african history to understanding the current world. "


Why? History in general is useless, except to show politicians that they shouldn't repeat it.

Other than that, I can't think of how learning about the huguenots in highschool has benefitted me more or less than learning about some ancient African civilization. Also, now that I think about it, other than bits about Egypt, there really hasn't been ANY mundane teachings about africa, where as I do at least remember learning about some Indian peoples that had city blocks, how the Chinese had dynasties and the japanese had the samurai code.

2/20/2006 3:47:38 PM

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"Cause yeah, lets face it, Eurasian history is far, far more important than sub-saharan african history to understanding the current world."


True, but that still doesn't justify teaching European and American history to the exclusion of others.

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"History in general is useless, except to show politicians that they shouldn't repeat it."


Foolishness. Anybody who ever so much as suggests a new policy over a few beers with his buddy is completely unjustified in doing so without at least a reasonable knowledge of the history surrounding his suggestion.

[Edited on February 20, 2006 at 3:53 PM. Reason : ]

2/20/2006 3:51:37 PM

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"Why? History in general is useless, except to show politicians that they shouldn't repeat it."

That's an interesting statement, I agree with it too.

2/20/2006 3:52:01 PM

GrumpyGOP
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Well I hope neither of you have any opinions whatsoever about global or domestic politics.

2/20/2006 3:53:56 PM

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"The track record is pretty solid. I can't think, off the top of my head, of a single incident where white people got together to talk about how great white was that didn't end poorly for everybody else. Every single time."


WOODSTOCK BITCH.

2/20/2006 3:55:18 PM

GrumpyGOP
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I missed the part where Woodstock was a white pride rally.

2/20/2006 3:55:57 PM

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"Foolishness. Anybody who ever so much as suggests a new policy over a few beers with his buddy is completely unjustified in doing so without at least a reasonable knowledge of the history surrounding his suggestion.
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That's why I made the exception for politics.

But, lots of people don't care about politics, and get through their lives without worrying about it (most people in the US can do this if they wanted). For this type of person, a knowledge of history is useless. Even politicians very often times ignore history, and get away with it.

2/20/2006 3:58:07 PM

Mr. Joshua
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^^ revisionist history

2/20/2006 3:59:42 PM

cyrion
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i was under the impression that there was quite a bit of important history from the middle east, africa, etc dealing with science and whatnot. i really am not a fan of history myself, but ive heard arguments for the teaching more asian (east/west alike) and african history.

2/20/2006 4:20:35 PM

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what do u think that we can invent history to pertain to blacks in textbooks?? The reason they arent there is because they were in slavery. We cant just make something up to put them in there. And we dont talk about "AFRICAN" culture, but black americans shouldnt be upset about that bc they arent africans. They are americans. we talk about black culture all the time. Every history class/political class i have ever taken has an entire section or 2 about race pertaining to blacks. Do you see me pitching a fit bc we dont talk about Scottish history in schools, hell no, no one care about that because I and most everyone else understands that they are an AMERICAN, not a Scottish-American, or even African or Asian-American, but an AMERICAN. when we can start looking as everyone as one then we can hope to elimate racism.

2/20/2006 4:22:55 PM

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"when we can start looking as everyone as one then we can hope to elimate racism."

haha i love this
its such an easy way to say you wish black people started acting more white

2/20/2006 4:26:15 PM

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^ In some ways though, the black community as a whole needs to "act more white," particularly in young people's views towards education.

The Boondocks (the cartoon) had a good episode on yesterday relating to this.

2/20/2006 4:34:26 PM

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^^^ blacks in slavery have no history im afraid and they shouldnt care about places that they might have had other ancestors froms. we really should only teach about countries that are relevant to us cuz we #1.

[Edited on February 20, 2006 at 4:35 PM. Reason : sigh]

2/20/2006 4:35:01 PM

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^^the black community and the black youth hip-hop culture are two different things

2/20/2006 4:58:57 PM

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every time this topic is brought up all I think about is a giant baby crying.

someone call the damn whambulance

oh and for the record I learned quite abit about British history in school which involves Scotland.

[Edited on February 20, 2006 at 5:06 PM. Reason : boohoospital]

2/20/2006 5:04:28 PM

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So originally I was going to post "wait a minute, someone posted a thread about whitey being oppressed and it's nearly at 3 pages already?"....

...but having seen ^, I'm content just repeating:

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"every time this topic is brought up all I think about is a giant baby crying.

someone call the damn whambulance"

2/20/2006 6:00:45 PM

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"Newsflash George Washington Carver didn't invent Peanut Butter! "


2/20/2006 6:10:39 PM

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History's useless? Knowledge of previous outcomes to specific actions is useless?

^ Hah, I missed that. SEE PEOPLE? WHAT GOOD DID HISTORY DO HIM?!



[Edited on February 20, 2006 at 6:23 PM. Reason : .]

2/20/2006 6:15:39 PM

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i think this is all bullshit, in my experience black ppl are the ones who bring up racism the most. hell when i wear a shirt with the confederate flag on it I’m called racist, so now i can't celebrate my southern heritage without being oppressed.

2/20/2006 6:19:51 PM

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^
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"SEE PEOPLE? WHAT GOOD DID HISTORY DO HIM?!"

2/20/2006 6:22:15 PM

bigben1024
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the traffic light?

[Edited on February 20, 2006 at 6:33 PM. Reason : .]

2/20/2006 6:32:07 PM

cyrion
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gunguy obviously doesnt know the history of the flag as discussed on this site to death.

2/20/2006 6:55:08 PM

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"i think this is all bullshit, in my experience black ppl are the ones who bring up racism the most. hell when i wear a shirt with the confederate flag on it I’m called racist, so now i can't celebrate my southern heritage without being oppressed."


ahahhhaaahah. ignorance is bliss huh?

2/20/2006 7:13:00 PM

cyrion
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HERRITAGE NOT HATE JOSH

ill say it once and ill say it again. even if it really was about herritage, you're a dumbass for wearing a shirt that you know ppl equate with racism and then whining about it. "oh i know it is gonna be contraversial, but screw them, im so right and i wanna take every opportunity to tell them."

[Edited on February 20, 2006 at 7:21 PM. Reason : .]

2/20/2006 7:19:42 PM

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People whine too much.

So what if black people have their own month? Shit, we gave them the shortest month of the year.

Seriously, having the United Negro College Fund never had an effect on me or ever hurt me.... chances are- it hasn't hurt anyone. Don't like BET? So what? Turn the channel to TNN. You think ghettos are dangerous? Then stay out, dumbass!

[Edited on February 20, 2006 at 7:42 PM. Reason : .]

2/20/2006 7:40:47 PM

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so many insightful responses!

no wonder black people hate us.

2/20/2006 7:45:20 PM

FitchNCSU
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^ http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/

2/20/2006 8:00:38 PM

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" For this type of person, a knowledge of history is useless."


And for me, a knowledge of mathematics above basic algebra is useless. I'll let you stop taking my shit when you let me stop taking yours.

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"hell when i wear a shirt with the confederate flag on it I’m called racist, so now i can't celebrate my southern heritage without being oppressed."


Oh, you're being oppressed? We'd better call the ACLU. What did those mean old black people do, prevent you from voting? No? Make you use a special restroom? No? Harrass you in your home? No?

You're celebrating the most abominable part of your heritage, and you are abominable for it. German people manage to celebrate their heritage without wearing a swastika, why can't you cheer on yours without wearing that damned rag?

2/20/2006 10:38:19 PM

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"you're a dumbass for wearing a shirt that you know ppl equate with racism and then whining "


i'm don't whine about it i really just don't give a shit what ppl think, i'm from the country and that represents me. i rarely ever were those shirts but when i do, leave me the fuck alone!

2/20/2006 10:56:41 PM

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poor guy

2/20/2006 10:59:16 PM

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set 'em (whitey) up...

2/20/2006 11:01:13 PM

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