MrT All American 1336 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "for ppl who think biological similarity means it makes ppl good canidates for slaves, would it be okay to chop of limbs from an identical twin, or maybe only a few fingers from a little sister since she wouldn't be as smiliar as a twin(or clone)?" |
i would not only clone myself in the future to have a ready supply of body parts but i am also a big advocate of stealing organs from poor people in the present2/24/2006 3:13:32 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
^^unipride should totally enslave sarah 2/24/2006 4:20:38 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i dont get why everyone is talking about twins
i didnt say twins
i said clones 2/24/2006 4:29:42 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
They're the same thing, that's why everybody's talking about them. Twins are genetic copies. So are clones.
It just happens that twins occur naturally. 2/24/2006 7:09:15 PM |
kbbrown3 All American 22312 Posts user info edit post |
We justify killings animals for food, why not people for parts? 2/24/2006 8:45:38 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
nah twins are people
clones are just like made in a lab
they are not real people honestly
[Edited on February 24, 2006 at 9:30 PM. Reason : why wouldnt you kill something that isnt real anyway] 2/24/2006 9:29:13 PM |
FroshKiller All American 51911 Posts user info edit post |
Guess you haven't heard of in vitro fertilization. 2/24/2006 9:30:01 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
yes i have froshkiller but the only difference is that like a mom has the kid
if someone clones me and was like "can we kill your clone since we dont need nothing but the arm", i would not even hesitate
i mean i allowed them to make it anyway
[Edited on February 24, 2006 at 9:33 PM. Reason : HOW DOES SOMETHING MADE IN A LAB HAVE RIGHTS, IT DIDNT EVEN EXIST BEFORE I SAID SO] 2/24/2006 9:32:00 PM |
FroshKiller All American 51911 Posts user info edit post |
There are no working artificial wombs, genius. Any human clone created presently would have to be carried to term in utero. 2/24/2006 9:34:57 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
man i'm not talking about natural birth dude, jesus 2/24/2006 9:35:34 PM |
FroshKiller All American 51911 Posts user info edit post |
Any genetic copy of an individual created today would be carried to term inside an actual womb and birthed accordingly. That is no different from in vitro fertilization except for the source of the zygote. How is that not a real human being? 2/24/2006 9:39:18 PM |
kbbrown3 All American 22312 Posts user info edit post |
A clone would not technically be a twin, but a twin is technically a clone. 2/24/2006 10:06:48 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
man wtf froshkiller has some wierd ass definition of a clone
i'm talking about like taking a drop of my blood and creating an arm
that mf's talking about invitro fertilization or some shit 2/24/2006 10:29:59 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
for once
I agree with FroshKiller
and i would assume most everyone else does too
[Edited on February 24, 2006 at 10:43 PM. Reason : can't type] 2/24/2006 10:33:51 PM |
kbbrown3 All American 22312 Posts user info edit post |
I think there's alot more important global issues to put as much thought in as they have in cloning. 2/24/2006 10:42:59 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
^^so you say that its wrong to kill a clone
i mean even if it was only created to like give me a liver or something?
[Edited on February 24, 2006 at 10:53 PM. Reason : i mean this isnt like abortion even though i'm pro-choice anyway] 2/24/2006 10:49:51 PM |
kbbrown3 All American 22312 Posts user info edit post |
this is a democracy, the no single person should be able to decide another person's fate. 2/24/2006 10:54:40 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ok well with the whole moral issue aside " |
you'll never get away from that
human life is valued by humans
if a clone of a human is itself human...then would it have a soul?
if it's not human...what is it?
either way, why should it be property?
Quote : | "i mean even if it was only created to like give me a liver or something?" |
what gives you the right to create a human just to use it
would you have a kid just to use its bone marrow or something like that?
[Edited on February 24, 2006 at 10:59 PM. Reason : there's a bunch of movies on this topic]2/24/2006 10:56:52 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i mean i'm all for humans
but damn think of all the possibilities 2/25/2006 1:14:49 AM |