slackerb All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
Why are we getting so much shit over this when this isn't nearly the worst "run a good coach out of town" situation.
Solich anyone? 4/7/2006 11:11:04 AM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
and look at them now...
MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE PAID ATTENTION
[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 11:12 AM. Reason : .] 4/7/2006 11:11:50 AM |
bigTHEW All American 7330 Posts user info edit post |
It's the story of the moment 4/7/2006 11:12:07 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "NC State fans and alumni know they can get any coach available" |
Wow. Just wow.
Quote : | "What is Sendek's record against WFU/DUKE/UNC over the last 5 years?" |
17-54. Keep in mind that those 3 are the best teams year in and year out.
^^^Where is Nebraska football now compared to the Solich days????
[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 11:12 AM. Reason : ^^^]4/7/2006 11:12:23 AM |
Kelly4NCSt8 All American 1115 Posts user info edit post |
Just to clarify, with nothing against the him... actually Sendek's record was 17-54 against Duke, North Carolina and Wake Forest.
[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 11:14 AM. Reason : ^ beat me to it] 4/7/2006 11:13:49 AM |
oostoggy Veteran 187 Posts user info edit post |
Seriously do we give a shit about the past? Herb is gone...we can't do anything about it. We were all disappointed in his season, his coaching ability, etc...why do we give a shit what these fucktards think about us? When we find our new coach, all I care about is winning. We do that and they will shut the fuck up 4/7/2006 11:19:00 AM |
TheMango55 All American 1427 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "juvenile N.C. State media" |
Haha, I can't believe that DOYEL said someone was juvenile. 4/7/2006 11:19:22 AM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We were all disappointed in his season, his coaching ability, etc..." |
um
no we all werent.
[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 11:20 AM. Reason : *]4/7/2006 11:20:01 AM |
oostoggy Veteran 187 Posts user info edit post |
So you were pleased with making it into the second round of the tournament, the horrible end of the regular season, downing a game to BC we should have won and then losing two times in a row to Wake, one of which put us out of the ACC tournament before the fuckin thing got started even? Impressive...takes all kinds 4/7/2006 11:22:50 AM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
yes
lets have this argument again
youre the moron that said everyone was not happy with his coaching
which is laughably untrue
why the fuck do you think the fanbase was split like it was 4/7/2006 11:25:38 AM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
so were you NOT impressed with making it to the ACC finals what 4 times in his tenure?
the second winningest coach in the tourney besides the guy who has won 7 out of the past 8?
thats the thing with our fans. they are so quick to forget the past yet LOVE TO BRING UP THE PAST
and love to discount the fact that we had 3 starters playing injured/ not at all down the stretch
or our mcdonalds all america sitting the bench all season
i fucking hate our fans
[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 11:26 AM. Reason : F] 4/7/2006 11:25:39 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We were all disappointed in his season, his coaching ability, etc..." |
No, some of has have brains like me and Lokken and knew this shit would happen.
What's gonna happen if we hire a nobody and make the NIT next year?
Are you gonna be happy with that? You will be begging for Herb to come back.4/7/2006 11:26:35 AM |
State409c Suspended 19558 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Quote : "What is Sendek's record against WFU/DUKE/UNC over the last 5 years?"
17-54. Keep in mind that those 3 are the best teams year in and year out.
^^^Where is Nebraska football now compared to the Solich days????
[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 11:12 AM. Reason : ^^^]
4/7/2006 11:12:23 AM Kelly4NCSt8 All American 645 Posts user info edit post
Just to clarify, with nothing against the him... actually Sendek's record was 17-54 against Duke, North Carolina and Wake Forest.
[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 11:14 AM. Reason : ^ beat me to it]" |
Pay attention folks. Thats over his whole 10, over his last 5, its 11-23, as I have already pointed out on the first page.4/7/2006 11:26:54 AM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
NO, THEY WILL RUN HIM OFF TOo.
making it impossible to get a fucking high school coach to come here
[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 11:28 AM. Reason : o] 4/7/2006 11:27:29 AM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
hey
im just curious
what are the other schools in the ACC record against Duke and UNC over the period that Sendek coached here?
Im not being an ass, not sure where to find that info. 4/7/2006 11:28:39 AM |
oostoggy Veteran 187 Posts user info edit post |
^^Not before we give him 10 years to under achieve...fuck all you people with low expectations
[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 11:28 AM. Reason : .] 4/7/2006 11:28:42 AM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
All this shit is the precise reason I wanted to land Barnes and I want to land Calipari. So all these fuckers can suck it. Where was all this when Dougherty was ran out of town? Its fucking rediculous. 4/7/2006 11:30:04 AM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
DIFFERENT SITUATIONS, DUMBSHIT
the PLAYERS ran dohboy out of town, not the fans
our players LOVED THEIR COACH 4/7/2006 11:31:30 AM |
TheMango55 All American 1427 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Where was all this when Dougherty was ran out of town? Its fucking rediculous." |
Oh there were critics. But Doh had more real problems than Sendek does.
Like schizophrenia.4/7/2006 11:32:02 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Who?
In all probability we are not getting Barnes or Calipari in part because of our fans.4/7/2006 11:32:05 AM |
oostoggy Veteran 187 Posts user info edit post |
HAHAHA you're kidding yourself if you think the fans were happy at UNC when doboy was there...oh wait none of them were fuckin fans cuz they jumped the bandwagon 4/7/2006 11:32:45 AM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^you are an idiot, yes, the players hated dougherty, so did the fans, so did the boosters. They pushed him out just to get roy. They FIRED doherty or however the fuck u spell it (he "resigned"). Herb LEFT US!
[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 11:34 AM. Reason : ] 4/7/2006 11:33:06 AM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
wasnt he acc coach of the year?
didnt he land the best recruiting class, the one that won the championship
oh thats right
[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 11:34 AM. Reason : ^the players threatened to leave the program] 4/7/2006 11:33:51 AM |
oostoggy Veteran 187 Posts user info edit post |
Herb was smart, he had a good job offer and he took it. I would have too if I were him. I never wanted him to leave but he is gone. Why hate our fans because "a lot" (not all, just to clarify and appease the masses) were disappointed. 4/7/2006 11:34:45 AM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
didnt he get ran out of town you dumb fuck
[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 11:35 AM. Reason : if herb stayed, fells wouldve transfered, simmons woulda gone pro] 4/7/2006 11:34:46 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Tell me once again why Herb left???
Fuckers. Herb Haters.
WE BETTER GET A GOOD COACH!4/7/2006 11:35:41 AM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
he did leave us though, hard to argue that 4/7/2006 11:36:55 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if herb stayed, fells wouldve transfered, simmons woulda gone pro" |
Fells might even start next year as a sophomore. He's not going anywhere.
If Ced is dumb enough to go pro when he can't catch a lob pass, that will be worse than when Josh Powell left early.4/7/2006 11:39:53 AM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=399725 4/7/2006 11:40:10 AM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
^^But they were talkin about leavin bc of the coach, thats the point i was tryin to make 4/7/2006 11:41:30 AM |
oostoggy Veteran 187 Posts user info edit post |
The media can try to rail us out all they want. As a lot have said and I agree with, not everyone wanted Herb gone, but he knew there was a lot of unrest. Am I happy Herb is gone and we have a chance to explore to coaching pool? yep...Am I happy with going after Barnes? or Calapari? Not particularly. I want what is best for the program and we can debate all day whether that was Herb or the unamed new head coach, we won't know until 2 or 3 years down the road I'm sure. 4/7/2006 11:44:06 AM |
bigTHEW All American 7330 Posts user info edit post |
All i know is I am thankful that Lee Fowler is staying mum and despite all this crap, continues to work hard to find a guy that will be the right fit. 4/7/2006 12:00:16 PM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
^ i hope to god thats what he is doing 4/7/2006 12:00:57 PM |
Panthro All American 7333 Posts user info edit post |
^^correct.
Press conferences of "gosh, looks like that one got away" would not bode well for his future at NC State.
Regardless, despite how fickle as NCSU fans are, Fowler's stay at NCSU could turn into a rather tumultuous one if an eagle doesnt land at the RBC center.
[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 12:03 PM. Reason : asdf] 4/7/2006 12:03:17 PM |
Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
Where does this Asshat Doyel live? 4/7/2006 12:04:01 PM |
oostoggy Veteran 187 Posts user info edit post |
No matter what happens we are going to catch criticism from these sports writers. Herb is going to succed at ASU (at least I hope he does), mainly because they are in the Pac-10 and not the ACC. Nothing we do will change Herb left us, and we are struggling to find a good fit for the position. Fowler is a smart man, he will figure something out. 4/7/2006 12:04:16 PM |
JWHWolf All American 3320 Posts user info edit post |
is this him?
Doyel, Gregg 3506 Danbury Rd, Fairfield, OH 45014-5311 (513) 942-1084 4/7/2006 12:07:55 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
That was a really well written article. When are people going to realize that its the truth? 4/7/2006 12:16:09 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "that's just out of line. Saying a program was in the wrong is one thing, but wishing misfortune on it another. No editor should have let this crap by." |
you kidding ?
I read it and I really dont see much to disagree with ... I was rather disenchanted with our offence definitly, but most everything he said was pretty accurate4/7/2006 12:31:56 PM |
slackerb All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
Uh....like the part where he wishes our basketball program and university disappear? "If there's a God in baby blue heaven..."?
You don't disagree with him wishing us ill-will because our coach left? 4/7/2006 12:38:51 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26117 Posts user info edit post |
Haha. Doyel PWNT us. It was mainly true. 4/7/2006 12:39:42 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26117 Posts user info edit post |
^^OMG! 666 posts! Post again, quick!
[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 12:40 PM. Reason : ] 4/7/2006 12:40:18 PM |
Panthro All American 7333 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "slackerb All American 666 Posts user info edit post" |
4/7/2006 12:40:21 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Haha. Doyel PWNT us. again" |
4/7/2006 12:40:34 PM |
Panthro All American 7333 Posts user info edit post |
lol.
gg, COZ 4/7/2006 12:41:05 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26117 Posts user info edit post |
I think it's a sign that Gregg Doyel is teh debil!
[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 12:42 PM. Reason : ] 4/7/2006 12:41:10 PM |
Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""If there's a God in baby blue heaven..."?" |
This part almost made me go semi-postal on my unc alum coworkers.4/7/2006 12:42:38 PM |
slackerb All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know whether it was my post count or Doyel's comment, or some combination of both, but I just impaled my UNC alumni boss with the paper cutter. 4/7/2006 12:44:27 PM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He baited and they ate" |
more true words have not been spoken.
i hate being associated with wolfpack fans sometimes.4/7/2006 12:53:26 PM |
ohmy All American 3875 Posts user info edit post |
if you think herb sendek is what was best for our team, i feel for you
Quote : | "You're absolutely right Mr. Doyel, we were wrong to strive for more than an 8-38 combined record vs our primary rivals. We were wrong to strive for greater than a 20% winning percentage against the RPI top 50. We were wrong to want to schedule more good out of conference teams instead of fattening up the record against >200+ RPI teams. We were wrong to expect that wolfpack teams could employ an offense that would actually excel at things like... getting rebounds. We were wrong to wish that our offense was more balanced instead of so heavily relying on the 3 point shot which was doomed to failure come tournament time. We were wrong to wish that our best post player in 10 years would spend more time on the block instead of initiating the offense at the top of the key (and staying there)play after play after play. We were wrong to wish for more than 1 sweet 16 and 1 seed higher than 7 in the 10 years Sendek was here.
All of these things make us a horrible, absolutely horrible group of fans. We really should get the bottom of the barrel as" |
[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 1:28 PM. Reason : ]4/7/2006 1:23:39 PM |