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4/14/2006 11:00:47 AM

yea...the article wasnt half bad

herbs personality was a killer-

[Edited on April 14, 2006 at 11:02 AM. Reason : 43]

4/14/2006 11:02:30 AM

kruk,

are/were you a herb supporter?

4/14/2006 11:06:33 AM

Quote :

"its fluff because everyone talks about our 2 championships everyone talks about jimmy v everyone talks about herb taking us to 5 ncaas in a row and everyone talks about herb having '10' years to take us to an elite 8 or acc championship."

It's not fluff and this article is refreshing because no one in the national media is talking about those things. Maybe on this board and PP, etc. "everyone talks about it", but on the national scene, all we've heard is:

How badly we treated Herb
How we didn't know what we had
How poorly we're going to do now
How poorly the coaching search is being conducted
How we have no history really and nothing to look forward to
How we have no right to go after the best coaches in America

This guy doesn't say any of that, and that makes it not fluff. It's a new opinion to the national media and I commend him for his opinion.

4/14/2006 11:06:39 AM

^^ what do you think

4/14/2006 11:07:06 AM

I was too, and it's time to move on.

Herb is gone, and dwelling on it serves no purpose.

Hoping that the program regresses so you can feel vindicated is fucking gay.

4/14/2006 11:09:54 AM

relax...why so tense? What crawled up your ass?

anyway, you're pessimistic about State and you like Herb. Hmm can we put 2 + 2 together? See what I did there?

4/14/2006 11:10:13 AM

am i pessimistic about the step down that State is about to take?

you're damn right

4/14/2006 11:15:20 AM

there are like 2 people who want us to be bad because herb left. that is just not realistic. forecasting doomsday and wanting it are two different things. I liked herb but not more than the university. I still think we arent going to be all that next year.

4/14/2006 11:16:56 AM

I dont think anyone here wants us to be bad

I was pulling like hell for Barnes and Calapari and I recognize they would be a huge step up from herb.

remember

we all go to nc state

4/14/2006 11:23:05 AM

Quote :

"I've been told that he was trying to mimic a fish; unfortunately, he looked more like an ass."

4/14/2006 2:11:35 PM

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"back to the good ol' days when families were divided, marriages were threatened and neighbor turned against neighbor."

lol

4/14/2006 3:31:08 PM

Frankly I think this hit my sentiment on what would happen prior to Herb considering to leave

Quote :

"Ed Hardin Column: Job is not problem; Pack's image is Be careful what you wish for. The curious situation at N.C. State became curiouser this week when a job opening became a job chasm and the stock of Wolfpack basketball fell hard on the open market. A month after Herb Sendek walked out of the Greensboro Coliseum in a shouting match with an N.C. State fan following an afternoon of listening to players' family members grousing behind the Wolfpack bench, the State basketball program is in a bad way. Two prominent head coaches have been offered the job, and neither wanted the headache. A short list of candidates is two names shorter this week after Rick Barnes of Texas and John Calipari of Memphis used the State situation to force negotiations with their own schools for more money. In doing so, they forced N.C. State through an excruciating two weeks of notoriety played out on television sets, newspapers and Internet sites across America. What seemed like a golden opportunity a month ago now appears to be a potential disaster for N.C. State athletics. These things are never clean. When they involve as many people as the balky Wolfpack machine and all its moving parts, it sometimes devolves into a mess. This one has all the signs of bad medicine. Sendek wasn't fired. He was run off. He wasn't run off by the school or the administration or the players or their parents. Sendek was run off by the fans. This happens sometimes, but rarely in a high-profile position such as the basketball coach at N.C. State University. Make a list of the top jobs in the country and this one's on it. Make a list of the top job openings in the business over the past few years and this one's near the top. N.C. State has one of the winningest programs in college basketball history -- two NCAA titles, 10 ACC Tournament titles and 18 appearances in the NCAA tournament, including the past five years under Sendek. When national basketball people speak of the top programs in the country, State is one of the programs they're talking about. When they speak of the top jobs in the country, this is one of the jobs they're talking about. When two coaches turn it down in a week, something's wrong. When N.C. State offers more than $2 million a year to come to Raleigh and coach in the ACC against Duke and North Carolina in one of only three or four college basketball regions in existence, and it can't get either of its top two choices to come, there's a problem. The problem isn't the job or the program or the university. It's the perception. State's image isn't good right now. Every coach in the country watched what happened to Sendek, and every one of them saw him walk away to Tempe after five straight NCAA appearances. They saw him walk away from one of the best basketball facilities in the country, from the epicenter of college basketball itself, because he was tired of the noise. State is looking for someone who will come in and go up against Duke and Carolina, someone who will win immediately and steadily, someone who will recruit nationally and compete for NCAA titles and stay out of trouble and keep the country's most passionate fans at bay. He's out there. He might not be one of the top coaches in the country, and then again, he might very well be. He might not be a young guy from a mid-major, but he might have to be. He might not be everything N.C. State dreams of or even deserves. But he might be. Lee Fowler, the State athletics director, is holding a big bag of money and one of the top jobs in America. He might take a deep breath now and wait. The attempts to get Barnes and Calipari were impressive. There are other big names out there, really big names. If he's not hearing from these people, then he already knows what's going to happen. But if he is, he's likely hesitant to rush into the next round of plane flights and clandestine interviews. The next N.C. State basketball coach is watching and waiting, too. Fowler can afford to go slower now. He knows his next offer has to be the last one. He knows the next basketball coach at N.C. State will come to him now. That's the way the game is played. Three coaches have gotten rich off this situation, and State is without a basketball coach. The next drama to unfold in Raleigh won't end with someone turning down the offer. The next one will be a hire, and then Fowler can turn his attention back to running his athletics department without the headache of trying to quiet his critics. No one can say he didn't try to give State's eager fans what they wished for. They ran off his basketball coach, and he'll hire the next one himself and move on to the next problem. Football season is four months away. And word has it that the fans are mad at their football coach, too. Contact Ed Hardin at 373-7069 or ehardin@news-record.com"

http://www.news-record.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?Dato=20060414&Kategori=NEWSREC0105&Lopenr=604140316&Ref=AR&Show=0&template=printart

4/14/2006 3:55:33 PM

I'm so fucking sick of reading about how Barnes and Calipari turned us down because our program is in shit condition.


How about the fact that Calipari never wanted to come, Barnes is making a crapload more money now, and they both have top 10 teams coming back. Hell, I'm surprised that we had their attention for as long as we did.

The fact that we flopped on thse two is NOT as bad as these fucking media faggots make it sound.


Now, if we flop on someone like Haith or Marshall, then you might say there's a problem.

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4/14/2006 5:29:04 PM

Because if Calapari never wanted to come, why would even come out to Raleigh, why would even allow the talks go so far with Fowler. Even if you say that he wanted a better raise from Memphis you would think that if that didn't work out, he would possibly come here.

4/14/2006 5:45:15 PM

I think Memphis tried to call his bluff....and when it got down to crunch time he had to make the trip to get them moving on the contract.

4/14/2006 5:51:39 PM

^that's wrong, you are always wrong... i am MR. RIGHT

4/14/2006 5:54:36 PM