its not the steroids thats the problem, its his bad attitude. but its still a great feat

5/29/2006 12:51:17 PM

hahahah every one is sooo fucking pissed

sure, it needs an asterik

but the only reason HE got caught is because of how fucking well he hits the ball.

I guaranfuckingtee there were over 200 MLBers juicing around 98-02

5/29/2006 12:59:41 PM

yep and that is why baseball is gay

5/29/2006 1:01:12 PM

he broke the record. end of story

5/29/2006 1:01:49 PM

and he is a fuckwad cheater

5/29/2006 1:02:51 PM

aaaaawwwwwwww

MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL USED TO HAVE SO MUCH INTEGRITY

GODDAMNIT BARRY BONDS

5/29/2006 1:03:51 PM

i really could give a shit about baseball

i just hate people who cheat to beat other people who didn't

[Edited on May 29, 2006 at 1:08 PM. Reason : that goes for any sport]

5/29/2006 1:07:33 PM

thats why i stopped watching baseball in 1994^

5/29/2006 1:08:14 PM

2nd place != the record

5/29/2006 6:42:42 PM

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"yep and that is why baseball is gay"

You do know about the substance abuse and performance enhancing drug problems in Hockey, right? Even things as simple as sudafed.

5/29/2006 6:55:38 PM

oh give me a fucking break

[Edited on May 30, 2006 at 11:52 AM. Reason : you are not seriously comparing hockey to baseball in steroid abuse, are you?]

5/30/2006 11:51:30 AM

how come espn didnt forcefeed this shit down our throats like they did the 50 at bats with no homers they did when he was sitting on 714? maybe cause nobody gives a shit? maybe cause Albert Pujols is Bonds' daddy, uncle, grandfather and lord and savior?

5/30/2006 11:54:24 AM

pwnt

gg

5/30/2006 11:56:38 AM

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"you are not seriously comparing hockey to baseball in steroid abuse, are you?]"

No, not steroids specifically. Abuse of drugs like sudafed and other doping methods are far worse.

5/30/2006 1:18:49 PM

sudafed is worse than anabolic steriods?

5/30/2006 1:26:54 PM

maybe if you drive the zamboni

5/30/2006 1:30:58 PM

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"he broke the record. end of story"

babe ruth didn't have any records when barry bonds showed up

move along

5/30/2006 1:41:32 PM

except for slugging percentage

5/30/2006 1:50:41 PM

and most 20-win pitching seasons by someone with 700+ homeruns

5/30/2006 1:54:08 PM

^^ok, you got me there

^gg

5/30/2006 1:59:45 PM

Fuck Babe Ruth..fuckin fat ass , overrated slob

5/30/2006 10:03:32 PM

i'm pretty sure you can't be overrated when you produce

actually

that's the definition of overrated: not producing

you lose

5/30/2006 10:06:07 PM

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"too bad its 715 with a big fat asterisk."

i dont think steroids has that much to do with hitting homeruns... Bonds is an amazing hitter.... he makes contact in the right place with the right timing...

if the strongest man in the world can't hit major league pitching, than what does strength matter...

as far as i am concerned, the man can hit -- he deserves this honor...

Giambi this season is a perfect example of how steroids dont make much of a difference...

and this post proves my point exactly... thanks mr. TP

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"i could take roids for years and years and not hit a single homer in the big leagues. the man is a good ball player"

[Edited on May 30, 2006 at 10:27 PM. Reason : .]

5/30/2006 10:25:35 PM

sonny-lo, I'm convinced you get dumber by the post.

5/30/2006 10:34:55 PM

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"i dont think steroids has that much to do with hitting homeruns... Bonds is an amazing hitter.... he makes contact in the right place with the right timing..."

the thing about steroids isn't the added strength, its the ability it gives you to quickly recover from injury

you don't hit 715 homeruns simply because you have a size 36 head

you hit 715 homeruns by staying healthy

no doubt bonds is an incredible player, maybe one of the best ever

but he might not have lasted this long if it weren't for steroids

5/30/2006 11:03:58 PM

^ that is also an excellent point...

an indication of your arguement could be the obvious deterioration of Bonds' body so quickly this season...

but at the same time, there are still some guys that are in their early 40's playing... granted, they aren't hitting bombs

the whole thing is unfortunate, but in a few years, this will all be moot when Pujols passes Mr. Aaron and Bonds is an afterthought...

[Edited on May 30, 2006 at 11:32 PM. Reason : .]

5/30/2006 11:30:30 PM

I want to learn to speak in foghorn

5/30/2006 11:53:16 PM

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"i dont think steroids has that much to do with hitting homeruns... Bonds is an amazing hitter.... he makes contact in the right place with the right timing..."

THEN WHY TAKE THE STEROIDS

5/31/2006 12:00:32 AM

please read my post, mr. woodfoot

5/31/2006 12:01:37 AM

sorry, its just instinctive to post that now...

5/31/2006 12:03:50 AM

obviously none of us can take steroids and step into the MLB batting box and start cracking homers

Bonds is a great hitter and steroids, to my knowledge, dont improve your hand-eye coordination

but you're seriously a fucking idiot if you dont think steroids add strength, which takes a good hitter, and allows him to hit the ball farther, leading to more homeruns

5/31/2006 11:35:40 AM

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"an indication of your arguement could be the obvious deterioration of Bonds' body so quickly this season..."

not really, go look at Babe Ruth's home run totals... a string of 40's, then a 20, then a 6 in this last season...

5/31/2006 11:38:25 AM

better yet, look at Ruth's body...he was a fat ass...he didnt juice...yet he hit 714

5/31/2006 11:42:39 AM

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"better yet, look at Ruth's body...he was a fat ass...he didnt juice...yet he hit 714"

Ruth had left and right field lines of between 260 and 290 feet for his entire career. Hell, at times he had lines that hit about 250 feet. These distance advantages (sometimes as much as 70' shorter than most ballparks) are much stronger than the added strength of steroid-induced muscle increase and even stronger than the mile-high effect in Coors. He never faced a 90mph slider either.

5/31/2006 2:26:15 PM

he never had the modern practice and training facilities of today's players either

[Edited on May 31, 2006 at 3:34 PM. Reason : ]

5/31/2006 3:34:09 PM

he threw 90 mph sliders at batters while getting 20-win seasons

5/31/2006 3:34:36 PM

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"he never had the modern practice and training facilities of today's players either"

Oh, please. Its not like fat players was the norm in his era... he let himself go and it has nothing to do with access to facilities, he just chose to access hot dog stands.

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"he threw 90 mph sliders at batters while getting 20-win seasons"

No, he didn't. Stick to basketball talk.

5/31/2006 11:23:10 PM

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"Oh, please. Its not like fat players was the norm in his era... he let himself go and it has nothing to do with access to facilities, he just chose to access hot dog stands."

so... what's your point?

he was an incredible hitter in spite of the fact that he was a fat piece of shit

imagine what he could have been with the technology of today

imagine what you could be with the ability to read and comprehend

5/31/2006 11:48:31 PM

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"so... what's your point? he was an incredible hitter in spite of the fact that he was a fat piece of shit imagine what he could have been with the technology of today imagine what you could be with the ability to read and comprehend"

I comprehend just fine, its your inability to string together two logically ordered points that makes this discussion fail. Ruth wouldn't have benefited from the advanced training facilities and regiments of today... heck, there is a good chance he ended up like a David Wells: a waste of talent because he couldn't take care of himself. He most definitely was an incredible hitter, I was simply pointing out that his homerun numbers are inflated due to the ballparks of his day. I really wish Ruth had taken an athletic approach to the game so we could see just how special he could possibly be.

6/1/2006 1:10:08 AM

BONDS USED STEROIDS, HE CHEATED

MSB YOU FUCKING IDIOT WHY DONT YOU REALIZE THAT

EVERYBODY ELSE GETS IT BUT YOU

6/1/2006 10:44:02 AM

FUCK BARRY BONDS!!!FUCK BARRY BONDS!!!FUCK BARRY BONDS!!!FUCK BARRY BONDS!!!FUCK BARRY BONDS!!!FUCK BARRY BONDS!!!FUCK BARRY BONDS!!!FUCK BARRY BONDS!!!

6/1/2006 10:50:17 AM

BLAME BASEBALL THEY ENCOURAGED IT BLAME BASEBALL THEY ENCOURAGED IT BLAME BASEBALL THEY ENCOURAGED IT BONDS SHOULD BE TREATED AS A HERO HE HAS BEEN OPPRESSED FOR 400 YEARS THE INSULTS REALLY HURT HIS FEELINGS

6/1/2006 10:59:26 AM

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"BONDS USED STEROIDS, HE CHEATED MSB YOU FUCKING IDIOT WHY DONT YOU REALIZE THAT EVERYBODY ELSE GETS IT BUT YOU"

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"BLAME BASEBALL THEY ENCOURAGED IT BLAME BASEBALL THEY ENCOURAGED IT BLAME BASEBALL THEY ENCOURAGED IT BONDS SHOULD BE TREATED AS A HERO HE HAS BEEN OPPRESSED FOR 400 YEARS THE INSULTS REALLY HURT HIS FEELINGS"

Learn to read. Everything seems to be going right over your head.

6/1/2006 11:39:01 AM

the first part was serious

the second sarcastic

btw bonds is a cheater, not sure if you were aware of that...im being serious here, not sarcastic...you have lots of problems differentiating

6/1/2006 11:52:15 AM

msb is being more hardheaded than rally.

I never though anyone would argue THIS much for a fucking cheater.

You are about the only one I know that defends him.

6/1/2006 12:57:12 PM

It's going to be pretty difficult to argue with anyone who thinks Babe Ruth was throwing 90 mph sliders, so I really don't understand why msb2ncsu even bothers.

6/1/2006 1:56:49 PM

cheater

6/1/2006 1:58:57 PM

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"the first part was serious the second sarcastic btw bonds is a cheater, not sure if you were aware of that...im being serious here, not sarcastic...you have lots of problems differentiating"

No fucking shit, Sherlock. Unlike you, I can comprehend points people are trying to make, even when being sarcastic. The sentiment you convey in your sarcasm is exactly what I'm talking about when I say you don't get it...

BTW, Willie Mays and Gaylord Perry are cheaters and still in the Hall of Fame with no asterisks, not sure if you were aware of that.
BTW, Bonds is one of the 5 greatest players in the history of baseball, even without any steroid-infalted homerun numbers. I know you lack the ability to see beyond your one-liner tripe, but some day when you take the time to actually look at the numbers throughout history just maybe you will get it.... maybe.

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"msb is being more hardheaded than rally. I never though anyone would argue THIS much for a fucking cheater. You are about the only one I know that defends him."

SWEET MOTHER OF JESUS! I'm not defending his use of steroids! I am pointing out fallacies in peoples remarks, inadequacies in their reasoning, hypocrisy in the praise/condemnation of certain players, and a general lack of reading comprehension and common sense.

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"It's going to be pretty difficult to argue with anyone who thinks Babe Ruth was throwing 90 mph sliders, so I really don't understand why msb2ncsu even bothers."

Seriously... I don't know why I waste my time with these mouth-breathers.

6/1/2006 2:35:12 PM

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"BTW, Bonds is one of the 5 greatest players in the history of baseball, even without any steroid-infalted homerun numbers"

riiiiiiiight

btw how fast did the babe pitch? you guys seem to know so well...course msb's reading comprehension didnt catch the sarcasm in that comment, and apparently stein lacks reading comprehension as well

6/1/2006 3:38:14 PM

The truth is I just don't think you know very much at all about baseball.

6/1/2006 4:02:24 PM