^^ But do you remember when they taught us to capitalize proper nouns? Be a grammar natzi or nothing, nothing is more cowardly than a fence sitter.

6/16/2006 12:52:26 AM

natzi

that's a proper noun

and you spelled it wrong

i was just pointing out that you misspelled roger clemens' name

anyone who can't spell clemens, the name of the best pitcher of the past 20 years, has no fucking idea what they're talking about

[Edited on June 16, 2006 at 12:54 AM. Reason : ]

6/16/2006 12:52:44 AM

woah

if you notice ernies last post

each line gets longer than the line above it

every single line is longer than the line before it

[Edited on June 16, 2006 at 12:59 AM. Reason : making reason for edit longer than last line]

6/16/2006 12:58:20 AM

^^ You're wise beyond your years with that kind of logic, Ernie for Sports talk mod!

[Edited on June 16, 2006 at 1:00 AM. Reason : .]

6/16/2006 1:00:00 AM

that's a run on sentence

and if you're gonna capitalize 'Sports' you should capitalize 'talk'

you twat

6/16/2006 1:01:05 AM

Also contractions are considered slang, and thanks for the heads up on the run on sentence (<==). But seriously man, I'm a little weirded out that you post within 1 minute or less to my posts, refresh button getting worn out yet? But in all honesty, I have enjoyed the grammar refresher, out

6/16/2006 1:12:57 AM

haha seriously ernie, to non regular posters like this guy we are losers

6/16/2006 1:14:18 AM

yeah i'm also masturbating while i make you look like an idiot, so you got me there

and what contraction are you talking about?

also, contractions aren't considered slang

i guess you were taught english by a fucking native american or something

[Edited on June 16, 2006 at 1:16 AM. Reason : ]

6/16/2006 1:16:06 AM

ernie for sports talk mod

i think it would make sports talk more fun and funny

6/16/2006 1:20:20 AM

please come to baseball tryouts and well put you in the box, throw ~90 at you, and we shall see who the pussy is

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"the sport of baseball is pussification as a whole u cant make any argument involving the word "pussy" because baseball is pussy and that's that"

I think Ozzie made a mistake having a rookie throw at him. Bring in someone out of the pen to do it. Despite what anyone says, if you do not throw back at a team that shit will continue to happen until someone gets hurt...usually a bench clearning brawl is actually good, beter punches than a ball hitting your head

6/16/2006 2:15:00 AM

I say the kid got a tough break. Its sad but when your coach tells you to do something you do it. He is 26 a year old and trying to make it in the majors. You do as you are told. Ozzie Told him to hit a guy not hit the guy in the head. I have been hit by a 90+mph fastball. It leaves a mark and it stings but you walk to first and keep playing. If you are a pitcher you want to protect your teamates. The best way to do that is to plunk the guy in the back send him to first and strike out the next guy. If you can't do as your told you don't get to play with the big boys. If Ozzie tells a guy to bunt and he swings away doesn't he get yelled at.

6/16/2006 9:04:13 AM

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"If Ozzie tells a guy to bunt and he swings away doesn't he get yelled at."

That's completely different.

Say the pitcher hit the guy in the face with a 97mph fast ball? Maybe he knocks the guy out, maybe he ends his career. I don't mind pitchers hitting a batter if they need to, but in this case the manager was completely out of line. I have no problem with the manager telling the pitcher that the batter needs to be hit, but sending him to the minors for not hitting the guy?

6/16/2006 9:10:48 AM

i still want motherfucking packboozie to explain why he didn't like Ozzie as a player.



^ how many times do we need to explain that he was yelled at for not hitting Blalock, he was demoted because the Sox made a trade for another pitcher and they needed to open up a roster spot.

[Edited on June 16, 2006 at 9:13 AM. Reason : ,]

6/16/2006 9:12:01 AM

VERT Ozzie said hit him not bean him in the head. Thats two completly different things. If you pitch in the majors and you can't hit a guy in the leg arm or chest then you shouldn't pitch. It is fine to hit a guy in the back. Head hunting is wrong and people get seriously hurt that way. But being hit in the leg or back is fine.

6/16/2006 9:13:55 AM

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"to non regular posters like this guy we are losers"

so fucking what

6/16/2006 9:27:59 AM

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"i still want motherfucking packboozie to explain why he didn't like Ozzie as a player."

Because of his attitude and the way he was. He had a cocky apperance to me.

I just plain don't like him. I never have. I really cannot explain why.

6/16/2006 9:46:33 AM

i bet you barely even knew who Ozzie Guillen was before he became manager of the White Sox


if you did, you would realize how stupid you look for saying Ozzie had a bad attitude and was cocky



[Edited on June 16, 2006 at 9:50 AM. Reason : ,]

6/16/2006 9:49:45 AM

Please I knew who Ozzie Guillen was. Ive seen plenty of baseball in my time.

I just don't like him.

What is the big deal?

6/16/2006 9:50:35 AM

we you even alive during his rookie season?

6/16/2006 9:51:50 AM

^I was born that year.

He was always overrated to me. He never hit .300 but was pretty good in the field I guess.

6/16/2006 9:53:05 AM

he wasn't rated at all. he was one hell of a teammate and a great role player.

he was never talked about as one of the greats. he was on the top-tier of SS during the '80s and early '90s, but never talked about as a future HOF'er.

overrated?!?!?!

6/16/2006 9:55:57 AM

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"two uncomparable situations. "

PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW INTENTIONALLY TRYING TO HURT SOMEONE TO SEND A MESSAGE TO THE OPPOSING TEAM IN BASKETBALL IS DIFFERENT THAN DOING IT IN BASEBALL??????

6/16/2006 10:21:08 AM

Ozzie didn't want this kid to hurt Blalock

no headhunting, just a shot to the back or leg

6/16/2006 10:22:28 AM

YOU DON'T HIT PLAYERS IN BASKETBALL. LET ME EXPLAIN... SEE, IN BASEBALL THE DEFENSE CONTROLS THE BALL AND "DELIVERS" IT TO THE OFFENSE. THIS IS VERY UNIQUE AS FAR AS SPORTS GO. ANYWAY, WHEREAS IN BASKETBALL A GUY SHOVING ANOTHER GUY IS SEEMINGLY VERY RANDOM, IN BASEBALL WHEN A PITCHER BEANS ANOTHER PLAYER IN A FASHION OF INTENTION IT IS VERY DELIBERATE AND VERY UNDERSTOOD. DOES THIS HELP YOU UNDERSTAND THINGS A LITTLE BIT BETTER YOU FUCKING IDIOT? MAYBE IF YOU DIDN'T TYPE LIKE A THIRD GRADER PEOPLE WOULD THINK HIGHER OF YOU.

6/16/2006 10:41:12 AM

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"YOU DON'T HIT PLAYERS IN BASKETBALL. LET ME EXPLAIN... SEE, IN BASEBALL THE DEFENSE CONTROLS THE BALL AND "DELIVERS" IT TO THE OFFENSE. THIS IS VERY UNIQUE AS FAR AS SPORTS GO. ANYWAY, WHEREAS IN BASKETBALL A GUY SHOVING ANOTHER GUY IS SEEMINGLY VERY RANDOM, IN BASEBALL WHEN A PITCHER BEANS ANOTHER PLAYER IN A FASHION OF INTENTION IT IS VERY DELIBERATE AND VERY UNDERSTOOD. DOES THIS HELP YOU UNDERSTAND THINGS A LITTLE BIT BETTER YOU FUCKING IDIOT? MAYBE IF YOU DIDN'T TYPE LIKE A THIRD GRADER PEOPLE WOULD THINK HIGHER OF YOU."

Maybe you don't understand... the example initially offered was about deliberate and very understood delivery of a message. Hard intentional fouls are committed very regularly, especially on breakaways.
Deliberate acts that can cause injury are called upon in all sports (cheap shots on QB's, goons sent after stars in hockey, etc). Don't be pretentious enough to think that baseball is unique in this regard. To say that they are "uncomparable" simply because the flow of action is different is simply naive.

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"Ozzie didn't want this kid to hurt Blalock no headhunting, just a shot to the back or leg"

Todd Bertuzzi didn't want to hurt Steve Moore, Warren Sapp didn't want to hurt Chad Clifton, and Nehemiah Ingram didn't want to hurt John Bryant either, but each of those situations are an aggressive act that can cause someone to get seriously hurt.

[Edited on June 16, 2006 at 1:30 PM. Reason : .]

6/16/2006 1:30:32 PM

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"Hard intentional fouls are committed very regularly, especially on breakaways"

fouls on breakaways? yes

hard, intentional fouls on breakaways? rarely

6/16/2006 1:32:53 PM

^^ernie said all that needs to be said

6/16/2006 1:37:47 PM

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"hard, intentional fouls on breakaways? rarely"

They happen all the time, man. It's an intentional foul because they can't get to the ball, so if they don't go at the body with some force, it's just "and 1" instead of "two shots".

6/16/2006 1:46:18 PM

yeah but i wouldn't call those 'hard' fouls

6/16/2006 1:50:02 PM

getting your arm slapped so you can't make a layup is SO MUCH the exact same thing as getting drilled in the torso, omg

6/16/2006 2:12:51 PM

I'm amazed by this thread :x

6/16/2006 2:19:21 PM

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"hard, intentional fouls on breakaways? rarely"

They happen about as often as intentionally hitting a batter.

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"yeah but i wouldn't call those 'hard' fouls"

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"getting your arm slapped so you can't make a layup is SO MUCH the exact same thing as getting drilled in the torso, omg"

I'm not talking about slap fouls... I'm talking about arm around the neck, getting thrown down, elbows to the face, overzealous blind screen, punching in the nads, etc. In the heart of NBA or college basketball season you can expect to see highlights of them fairly regularly. Heck, its happened quite a bit in the playoffs so far and towards the end of the ACC this year it seemed like you had atleast one flagrant intentional foul in every game. Its usually the subsequent shove/shout match that gets all the attention in the NBA but it definitely is not rare.

6/16/2006 2:21:51 PM

without being a dick, i could not disagree with you more

everything you said is completely false

6/16/2006 2:23:48 PM

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"towards the end of the ACC this year it seemed like you had atleast one flagrant intentional foul in every game"

roffle

6/16/2006 2:50:07 PM

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"without being a dick, i could not disagree with you more everything you said is completely false"

without being a dick, i could not disagree with you more

everything I said is completely true

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"roffle"

Players got elbowed, pulled down on a breakaway, malicious "block" attempts, shoving, etc.

6/16/2006 3:19:03 PM

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"Only a pussy throws a ball at someone instead of fighting like a man."

6/16/2006 10:46:08 PM

this thread is another reason basketball>baseball

6/16/2006 10:53:36 PM

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"everything I said is completely true"

would you like to show me some numbers

6/16/2006 10:54:19 PM

I don't like baseball to begin with, I don't give shit who the DH is, but I say as one coach to another, "fuck you and you don't deserve the privilage of riding the bus back"

6/16/2006 11:28:43 PM

First of all, let me say that I love the game of baseball. The problem is that I hate the majority of the players. They are a bunch of immature pussies. If a guy hits a home run or talks shit to you, you back it up with your game, not bean him with the ball. If a guy is getting owned in basketball he takes it like a man, steps his game up another level, or sits the bench. In football, if your man is beating you every play, you get taken out of the game. It just comes down to a bunch of overpaid, whining, immature, assholes, that can't accept getting beat just one time in a sport where as a pitcher you win more than %70 of the time.

6/17/2006 3:32:06 AM

holy fuck i just read this thread

i cant believe what i posted was actually fucking relavent

6/17/2006 3:40:20 AM

All you people are fucking stupid. He didn't do his job, so he lost it. He wasn't told to hit the dude in the head, just to hit him. It's part of the game and required of a major league pitcher.

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"I'm talking about arm around the neck, getting thrown down, elbows to the face, overzealous blind screen, punching in the nads, etc. In the heart of NBA or college basketball season you can expect to see highlights of them fairly regularly. Heck, its happened quite a bit in the playoffs so far "

Please don't bring your ignorance of the NBA into this thread about baseball. There have been ~ 5 suspensions this playoffs for flagrant fouls. One of which was for the throwing of a mouthpiece at a ref. The latest was for Stackhouse fouling Shack, and everyone knows that is BS. Hard fouls are part of the game, and required in many instances.

And while we are on the subject, I've watched a little of the World Cup this week, and I think the refs there are way too card happy as well.

Sports are physical. Man up or get the fuck off the playing surface.

Carry on.

6/17/2006 5:17:57 AM