TGD All American 8912 Posts user info edit post |
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Schuchula Veteran 138 Posts user info edit post |
I am a fan of democracy, and installing the most responsible, accountible, efficient government system possible. There is no constant for what is the best system. With time, old systems become worse, and new systems become better.
The economy can be looked at a similar way. Technology will pave the way for new economic structures entirely unexplored so far.
I intend to be at the forefront of implementing the newest, most progressive, sensible policies people invent. Science will pave the way.
I am not so conceited that if everything I wanted were ever implemented, that the way things would be is the best way they could ever be. I consider that mindset dangerous.
So I guess I'm a freedom hating liberal.
[Edited on June 21, 2006 at 1:26 PM. Reason : I don't know] 6/21/2006 1:24:02 PM |
quiet guy Suspended 3020 Posts user info edit post |
flip-flopist 6/21/2006 2:02:33 PM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
it's too hard to classify myself
I hate big government... esp feds, I'm ok with local level govt to a point
I'm pretty moderate/left leaning on social issues, mostly because I don't give a fuck what gay people do, or what a woman does to her body (as long as it isn't my child), and I believe people have the right to do whatever substances or drugs they choose as long as they know the dangers and stay out of the way of myself and my family while doing it
I'm for rights for the people
I'm tired of being taxed multiple times for the same thing and I don't like paying to support everyone else
everyone has the power to fix their situation one way or another, it is not my responsibility to make sure your 25 kids have a hot plate
I don't mind taxes so much as I hate the lack of fiscal accountability, I hate politicians getting their hands on and personally directing funds you are forced to give. I wish the government were held accountable for tax dollars and where they go when you are forced to give them money
I wish the govt would fix the judicial system and the law enforcement community
I wish they would do more to protect the enviroment so that my kids and their kids can enjoy it when they are older (this is the outdoorsman in me talking) It pains me to know that of all the money I spend each year to hunt and fish most of it will not help protect or defend habitats for people to enjoy. Privately, sportsmen and outdoorsman do more for the enviroment than politicians ever do. thankfully the government is installing programs such as CRP and CP33 to help protect vanishing populations of wildlife in rural areas to help take the burden off of the landowner and to promote conservation of wildlife, fisheries, and waterways
I'll stop here before I begin ranting even more 6/21/2006 2:13:22 PM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I wish the government were held accountable for tax dollars and where they go when you are forced to give them money" |
Make tax day a day or two before election day, and get rid of direct deposit so people can make a more explicit connection between their lost $$ and government waste. That would help with the incumbent stagnation problem.6/21/2006 4:03:13 PM |
1337 b4k4 All American 10033 Posts user info edit post |
^ As much as I like, the president doesn't spend the money, congress does. 6/21/2006 10:29:35 PM |
TaterSalad All American 6256 Posts user info edit post |
conservative 6/21/2006 10:35:14 PM |
Mindstorm All American 15858 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and get rid of direct deposit" |
It's so funny that you mention that. It's highly recommended at my DOT job, and it's now MANDATORY at my NCSU Bookstores job (which is basically state-run).
They're just hoping you don't notice that your money goes missing.6/21/2006 10:44:29 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
left-leaning moderate 6/21/2006 11:03:32 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
My politics are most like the blue tories in Canada.
I am a quasi-libertarian. 6/21/2006 11:57:37 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I am a fan of democracy" |
Eww. This is pretty much a horrible idea considering how ignorant most people are.6/22/2006 12:33:45 AM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " As much as I like, the president doesn't spend the money, congress does." |
I'm missing something here, I meant congress, the president gets 8 years and no more, congress has no such limits to my knowledge. And yeah the congress is the real problem.6/22/2006 12:47:28 AM |
Scuba Steve All American 6931 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Liberal with bursts of fascism..."" |
6/22/2006 12:53:14 AM |
Johnny Swank All American 1889 Posts user info edit post |
Jaded. 6/22/2006 2:07:19 AM |
boonedocks All American 5550 Posts user info edit post |
Note to self/Democrats:
1. Run for office on a fiscially moderate, socially liberal platfrom 2. Win 6/22/2006 3:18:59 AM |
Contrast All American 869 Posts user info edit post |
I want to change my answer: I am in line with the Beatles. I am a Bill & Ted utopian socialist. 6/22/2006 3:45:05 AM |
Protostar All American 3495 Posts user info edit post |
I'm pro freedom. Do whatever you will so long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others. 6/22/2006 9:21:52 AM |
pirate5311 All American 1047 Posts user info edit post |
social and fiscal.
6/23/2006 12:33:51 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Trotsky Leninist 6/23/2006 12:36:52 PM |
Schuchula Veteran 138 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Eww. This is pretty much a horrible idea considering how ignorant most people are." |
Democracy by the smart, over the dumb. Did I not mention that the first time around?
Hmm, I didn't. Sorry about the confusion.
[Edited on June 23, 2006 at 12:41 PM. Reason : aha, I see now]6/23/2006 12:39:18 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
What the hell are you talking about? 6/23/2006 12:40:43 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
So you're a fan of oligarchy, not democracy, then? ^^ 6/23/2006 12:44:35 PM |
ncsutiger All American 3443 Posts user info edit post |
I took two political/moral quizzes and they classified me as near the center, but basically a democrat, or a social libertarian/authoritarian. It's weird b/c personal opinion differs from some of the compromises I believe are best for the overall good of society. 6/23/2006 1:01:59 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
authoritarian 6/23/2006 1:21:15 PM |
Schuchula Veteran 138 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So you're a fan of oligarchy, not democracy, then? ^^" |
Divine right and intelligence are two surprisingly different things.6/23/2006 5:11:19 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
And either of them as a culling factor for government would fit the description of an oligarchy!
You should work on being right before you work on being smug. 6/23/2006 6:07:25 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "social libertarian/authoritarian" |
??
does not compute6/23/2006 7:14:18 PM |
Schuchula Veteran 138 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And either of them as a culling factor for government would fit the description of an oligarchy!
You should work on being right before you work on being smug." |
Wow you sure McTold me.6/23/2006 10:49:54 PM |
Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
moderate leaning conservative 6/23/2006 11:24:58 PM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Wow you sure McTold me" |
This makes me McLaugh. I'm McDone, McReally, ok.6/24/2006 12:38:25 AM |
quiet guy Suspended 3020 Posts user info edit post |
oy, McVeigh 6/24/2006 12:45:10 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i'm a democrat now, but soon as i get rich i'm turning republican 6/24/2006 2:25:20 AM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
I'm a libertarian now, but once I get rich i'm turning republicrat to make sure no one else can. 6/24/2006 9:24:32 AM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
Thinking that systems change and can become better or worse is stupid. Human incentives are the same, and will always be the same. Any economic or social policy that ignores that, is going to fail. Those that integrate it will flourish. 6/24/2006 2:15:16 PM |
Randy Suspended 1175 Posts user info edit post |
im bumping this thread just to read through it and to put in my own input since i was gone
i would classify myself as a conservative, leaning to the right. i admire reagan and wish we could return to his ideals. i hope that someday we can rid ourselves of this liberal disease. 9/21/2006 12:17:08 AM |
ChknMcFaggot Suspended 1393 Posts user info edit post |
^ You're a bot. 9/21/2006 12:18:31 AM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
ONE PARTY SYSTEM 9/21/2006 12:26:36 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i think the world knows that democrats are the ones that are supposed to be in office for the president in 08 9/21/2006 12:28:23 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
i heard some muslims are trying to remove the liberal disease in the middle east and doing a pretty good job. 9/21/2006 1:00:25 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
9/21/2006 1:03:00 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
EXTERMINATE ALL DISSENT 9/21/2006 1:22:55 AM |
Randy Suspended 1175 Posts user info edit post |
dissenting parties exterminated? nice try there, trying to paint me as an extremist. its not democrats per say that are damaging america, its the liberals who show compassion and interest to marxists and other statists and morally corrupt groups who need to be moved into the outer fringes of american society. 9/22/2006 12:46:33 AM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
so youre saying we shouldnt have debate or differing views, thats damaging? whatever, stalin.
[Edited on September 22, 2006 at 1:01 AM. Reason : gfc] 9/22/2006 1:01:26 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm a big fan of oligarchy. I used to like the idea of equality but then I realized most idiots don't need a decision, or freedom, or power -- what they need is an assignment." |
yeah, i kind of agree.
except, for the most part, i'll grant them the freedom part.9/22/2006 1:16:54 AM |
Randy Suspended 1175 Posts user info edit post |
^^no, debate all you want
just keep the far left out of my life and government 9/22/2006 1:44:03 AM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
^ Does that also mean that we can keep the far right out of our lives and government? 9/22/2006 2:57:25 AM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
^It kinda depends what you mean by "keeping them out of your life"
If you want them to shut up and let you kill people, rape women, and steal then your answer is no. 9/22/2006 7:50:12 AM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
a socially liberal, fiscally conservative moderate.
ive been voting more democrate lately, but im probably split in my voting record overall. i vote on the candidate, not the party. 9/22/2006 8:28:35 AM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
Anti-bullshit. Regardless of party. 9/22/2006 9:43:26 AM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
agreed 9/22/2006 9:45:31 AM |