If it's true that the compensation is a joke, then it shouldn't be a problem to name a couple part-time jobs that are better.

And no, it doesn't take that long to get a supervisor spot. For a motivated, reasonably smart individual, it should be less than 6 months.

And I would definitely argue that the experience it provides is comparable in value to a technical co-op...even for science/engineering majors. They develop/show different skill sets, but both are highly desired, technical field or not.

10/19/2006 2:21:02 AM

Part time jobs that start at 8 bucks an hour and work their way to 14 after 6 months to a year?

See the Sageworks thread, you'll make more money, same basic benefits, and a LOT more potential. Dude, ~10 dollar an hour jobs are a dime a dozen for any half-decent human being. You can look at careerbuilder or hotjobs or even freaking craigslist.

The only advantage I have seen so far from UPS is the tuition compensation, which IS nice. Other than that, it's a career job.

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"And I would definitely argue that the experience it provides is comparable in value to a technical co-op...even for science/engineering majors. They develop/show different skill sets, but both are highly desired, technical field or not."

You would be absolutely wrong in your argument. The whole point of a technical co-op is learning the TECHNICAL SKILLS.

10/19/2006 10:04:36 AM

^ I don't know. I'd say it is comparable in value. It teaches you that a technical job is better than lifting boxes all day

10/19/2006 3:29:10 PM

Yes, 10/hr jobs are a dime a dozen.....what's your point? When including tuition reimbursement, performance bonuses, etc. I earn twice that.

All the jobs described in the Sageworks thread are full-time+, so not really relevant, there.

But the main point of what I was getting at is the incredible value it adds to your resume - which I believe is at least equal to the vast majority of co-op jobs, even for engineering majors.

So you mean a technical co-op will get you technical skills? I already acknowledged that. My point was that the value of those learned technical skills in a co-op, even if you're an engineering major, are not more valuable than the management experience at UPS to most potential employers.

I'm in finance...but you should have seen recruiter's faces light up at career fairs when they see my resume. I've been offered jobs in Industrial Engineering, Systems Analysis, etc. just because of my general knowledge and proven ability to absorb large amounts of information, make decisions, and interact in a corporate environment. Now if I had a degree in those technical areas, and this? Even better.

I'm not saying that everyone should leave their co-op to work at UPS...I'm saying that too many people far undervalue what it can do for you.

10/19/2006 3:40:14 PM

If you are a finance major, there is no fucking way you got offered a job as an industrial engineer, that's talking out of your ass.

You can get "management experience" at McDonalds.

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"My point was that the value of those learned technical skills in a co-op, even if you're an engineering major, are not more valuable than the management experience at UPS to most potential employers. "

My point is, you are wrong.

That MIGHT hold water for Business/Comm/Finance majors like yourself, but any engineer should tell you that you get the technical skill FIRST and then move into management.

What the fuck good is a manager if he/she doesn't understand what in the hell they are managing? You've got it all reversed big time.

10/20/2006 10:13:54 AM

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"What the fuck good is a manager if he/she doesn't understand what in the hell they are managing?"

this is how things work in the government.

AM I RIGHT? BUREAUCRATS, AM I RIGHT?

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10/20/2006 4:26:02 PM