page 2 says lebron

6/28/2006 5:44:58 PM

the ONLY thing wade struggles with is the 3 and it looks as if that is improving...ernie your knowledge of basketball is subpar at best

6/28/2006 5:52:22 PM

so how exactly is lebron the best player out of all the players in the nba?

6/28/2006 5:53:48 PM

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"Kobe is better than Wade right now no doubt in my mind"

haha was there any doubt in ANYONES mind?

6/28/2006 5:55:08 PM

^ we still haven't heard your pick

6/28/2006 5:57:50 PM

^^^,^^perhaps you should find your way to a thread that is not about the NBA...

[Edited on June 28, 2006 at 6:15 PM. Reason : ^]

6/28/2006 6:15:26 PM

so yall think lebron is the very best and d-wade is better than kobe?

i'm astounded

6/28/2006 9:20:25 PM

CEDRIC SIMMONS

6/28/2006 9:22:42 PM

Michael Vick

[Edited on June 28, 2006 at 9:40 PM. Reason : duh]

6/28/2006 9:24:03 PM

here is my pick for the top 5

1. lebron
2. d-wade
3. kobe
4. steve nash
5. dirk nowitsski

6/28/2006 9:24:37 PM

i really want to say steve nash but i know you guys are gonna have a shit fit if i do

i'm gonna stick with lebron

6/28/2006 9:25:44 PM

lets see wade win something without shaq before we put him ahead of kobe, ok

and i dont like kobe

6/28/2006 9:34:27 PM

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"have most people on tww agree with me so i wouldnt have to argue a point"

i love it !

6/28/2006 10:19:44 PM

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"i really want to say steve nash but i know you guys are gonna have a shit fit if i do i'm gonna stick with lebron"

I could agree with that.

Here is a question:

If you are a GM and there is a fantasy draft and you have the first pick, who do you take?

The answer has to be Lebron James.

6/28/2006 10:20:24 PM

nm

[Edited on June 28, 2006 at 10:25 PM. Reason : x]

6/28/2006 10:24:57 PM

maybe drunk

6/28/2006 10:25:26 PM

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"paul pierce easily. he just doesn't get the media attention because he's not a gangster thug or out raping people or crying about his teamates or having a big name coach or switching teams or being an attention whore in any way shape or form."

6/29/2006 12:07:44 AM

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"I could agree with that. Here is a question: If you are a GM and there is a fantasy draft and you have the first pick, who do you take? The answer has to be Lebron James."

oh, no doubt i'd take lebron first

he's already one of the top players in the league and is the perfect guy to build a team around

however, if i had a marginal team with a few playmakers, i'd take nash

he's the perfect point guard and can take any team to the next level

6/29/2006 12:19:57 AM

kobe, wade, lebron, AI, Dirk, Nash, Duncan...


Hodge, Grundy, Simmons, Powell, Wilkins

6/29/2006 2:54:19 PM

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"paul pierce easily. he just doesn't get the media attention because he's not a gangster thug or out talking shit about Boston rappers or getting stabbed or having a big name coach or switching teams or being an attention whore in any way shape or form.""

6/29/2006 3:07:29 PM

Kobe is the villian MJ

mirror each other so freakin much

6/29/2006 3:09:41 PM

probably because they both call basketball "the game of basketball"

6/29/2006 3:10:12 PM

drunknloaded...first you argued that lebron was NOT the best player in the league and then put him number one on your list. then you argued that kobe was definitely better than wade...and then put wade ahead of kobe on your rankings. are you easily persuaded by others' correct and more informed opinions?

6/29/2006 4:38:50 PM

I argued Kobe was a better offensive and defensive player than Wade

dont know if drunknloaded did or not

fyi

6/29/2006 4:42:04 PM

^yeah, i know that you argued that as well, but he said:

"

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"Kobe is better than Wade right now no doubt in my mind"

haha was there any doubt in ANYONES mind?"

so he went along with you and whoever else said that.


[Edited on June 29, 2006 at 5:22 PM. Reason : bah]

6/29/2006 5:21:19 PM

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"probably because they both call basketball "the game of basketball""

haaaaaaaaahahahhahahaha best post in this thread so far

6/29/2006 5:38:14 PM

Wade is a better team player than Kobe.... but Lebron is just insane.

6/29/2006 6:02:48 PM

I bet half of the people here giving their opinions have no basketball knowledge whatsoever and just say what they hear on espn.

The three names mentioned most are Kobe, Lebron and Wade.

Well offensively, defensively and in the clutch we know Kobe is better, so everyone keep your panties on.

6/29/2006 6:20:19 PM

^kobe is clutch no doubt. but so are lebron and wade. wade was unstoppable down the stretch in the finals and lebron had atleast 2, maybe 3, game winning shots in crunch time in the playoffs. i don't think you can say kobe is more clutch than the other two.

however, you are correct that kobe's defense is ahead of the other 2...for now. and offensively i think the three of them are pretty even...kobe shoots the three ball the best, lebron is has the most strength and athletic ability and wade is quickest and can get to the basket the best.

[Edited on June 29, 2006 at 6:50 PM. Reason : add]

6/29/2006 6:47:52 PM

so how many mvp's do you think lebron ends up with

i'm going with atleast 5 but no more than 9

6/29/2006 6:57:20 PM

Kobe is a killer and the other two are not killers yet

wade is only in this conversation because of the finals, take him off and replace with kobe or lebron and the finals are a sweep

lebron is a different kind of player than we have ever seen, he is a mix of magic and vince carter

kobe is more clutch than either one of two will ever be, kobe plays better D, Kobe is a better scorer, lets not forget kobe has 3 rings already

6/30/2006 12:55:47 AM

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"lets not forget kobe has 3 rings already"

With Shaq in his prime....


And you say:

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"Kobe is a killer and the other two are not killers yet "

And then you say this:

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"wade is only in this conversation because of the finals"

Where he was a killer. So???

And Lebron was every much the killer in this year's playoffs. His supporting cast just wasn't good enough. And Kobe sure was a killer against the Suns in that first round.

[Edited on June 30, 2006 at 1:19 AM. Reason : .]

6/30/2006 1:16:14 AM

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"And Lebron was every much the killer in this year's playoffs. His supporting cast just wasn't good enough. And Kobe sure was a killer against the Suns in that first round"

cavs had a better supporting cast than the lakers

6/30/2006 10:58:51 AM

the next generation

6/30/2006 11:53:07 AM

you see Brevin protectin his nuts

6/30/2006 11:58:01 AM

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"Kobe is a killer and the other two are not killers yet wade is only in this conversation because of the finals, take him off and replace with kobe or lebron and the finals are a sweep lebron is a different kind of player than we have ever seen, he is a mix of magic and vince carter kobe is more clutch than either one of two will ever be, kobe plays better D, Kobe is a better scorer, lets not forget kobe has 3 rings already"

Age:
Kobe: 28 next month
Wade: 24
LeBron: 21

Give the bottom 2 a little more time, and they will far surpass everything Kobe has done individually. Kobe was Wade's age now, playing with Shaq in his prime and got three titles out of it. Keep ion mind Shaq was averaging like 28pts, 16 rebs in those finals, thats why he was always MVP, NOT KOBE. Then look at this year, Shaq averaged far below those numbers, and Wade was the MVP, not Shaq.

Basically, put Wade or LeBron with a Shaq in his prime and they reel off more than 3 rings, and niether run him off because of ego issues.

6/30/2006 12:03:45 PM

players as good as Wade and Lebron inherently have ego issues...they dont get to be as good as they are without egos

Just because Wade and Shaq didnt clash after one title doesnt mean they wouldnt have problems

we can hypothetically speculate shit all day

but people remember rings

btw i dont like Kobe but you cant argue with his hardware...or the fact that only Wilt Chamberlain has scored more points in a single game

6/30/2006 12:08:55 PM

me and my brother had to implement a no-Lakers rule to our games in 2k6

motherfucker dosent miss

6/30/2006 12:13:40 PM

i've scored 80+ in a game of 2k6 with Gerald Wallace

dude who i was playin online was pissed...G-Wall scored more than the Pistons who I was playing against haha

6/30/2006 12:14:29 PM

motherfucker thats just cheap

are you one of those dunk all the time fuckers? hahah

ima have to catch u online one day and bust ya asssssssssssssssssssssssss

6/30/2006 12:15:13 PM

i'll dunk a few

those 8' pull up jumpers are money though

and shit people try that dunk all the time shit on me and i swat em all day

6/30/2006 12:16:54 PM

^x5, then by that same logic, Robert Horry is twice as good as Kobe (6 rings to 3), and Steve Kerr is 5 times better than D. Wade (5 to 1).

I think people put too much emphasis on the Rings w/o taking a closer look. Since he ran Shaq off, Kobe has done nothing but score an insane amount of points. He hasn't won anything (no MVP's, no scoring titles, NO RINGS). He hasnt made anyone on his team better (Unlike Shaq, who made Walker, Williams, and Posey legitimate threats, and not just gunners). Kobe's just a scorer. Until I see someone play better b/c of playing with Kobe, I will not say that he is the best player in Basketball.

[Edited on June 30, 2006 at 12:20 PM. Reason : asdf]

6/30/2006 12:19:40 PM

i'm not even saying he's the best player in basketball

and i think we can both agree that the horry and kerr comments are...well we all know kobe is better than both of them

but you cant say Kobe hasnt won shit or done shit without Shaq unless you also admit that Lebron and Wade havent done shit without Shaq either

6/30/2006 12:22:58 PM

but both of them, especially LeBron, do so much more than score. Kobe doesnt.

LeBron has made every one of his teammates better, and is drawing comparisions to Magic Johnson/Oscar Robertson because of the was he can pass and rebound as well as fill up the scoreboard.

I think Kobe is really needs to add more to his game if he wants to be known as one of the greatest.

6/30/2006 12:25:44 PM

i've never seen lebron or wade rape a white chick

Kobe: 1
L, W: 0

6/30/2006 12:30:29 PM

Kobe wins.

6/30/2006 12:31:00 PM

if thats the case, im better than kobe


wait, what?

6/30/2006 1:23:06 PM

KOBE BRYANT...by far is the best player in the nba. He actually PLAYS defense, 1st team all nba defense by the way. He is smoother when driving the basket and better at avoiding charges unlike wade and lebron. He makes you crap your pants when your the other team and hes on the floor because your so worried hes gonna steal the ball at halfcourt and take it in for a dunk.

Basically if your more than the average fan, if you actually understand the intricacies of basketball, then you realize that Kobe is by far the best player in the world. He exerts so much energy guarding the other teams best player, he can create a shot from Anywhere, oh yeah he actually shoots over 90% in free throws (unlike wade or lebron), and he can outjump yao ming.
...Yeah...gimme KOBE

6/30/2006 1:43:00 PM

STFU n00b.

there is no doubt that Kobe is an amazing offensive player, and yes, he is a great defensive player as well. You obviously dont know shit about this argument...talking about jumping over players and shit.



The point of my argument is that Kobe makes no one else on his team better, and if you dont make others better, in order to win you have to be surrounded by talent. This was why Kobe won with Shaq. Kobe could be one-dimensional and Shaq could make everyone better. This is a rare quality that very few players have. Shaq, Nash, and LeBron are the few that come to mind.

I would take Lebron over Wade and Kobe, based on all around talent and potential, the Wade, as he is 4 years younger than Kobe, Then Kobe. This takes nothing away from how clutch and the affensive creativity that is Kobe Bryant, but I can promise you, Kobe will never win unless there is someone on his team that can consistently make things easier on thier teammates. He has the ability to, but its obvious that he doesnt trust his teammates enough to take it to the next level.

LeBron >>>> Wade >>>>Kobe as far as long term value RIGHT NOW

6/30/2006 1:54:31 PM

how does wade make his teammates better?

by taking 4 steps in the lane and hitting free throws from phantom fouls?

6/30/2006 1:59:31 PM