^^ You're pretty much right on...Ugly, bitchy, whiney, bratty, annoying, etc. Sane attractive women don't go crazy for the D.

7/24/2006 5:31:26 PM

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"I've looked at it that way too. And, like I said, I normally have no problem saying, "Whoa there, stud! Homey ain't interested." It's when they break form and start getting all upset and spewing bullshit emotions at me that I start to wonder if I've done something wrong, even when I'm pretty sure that it's all part of their game and not real at all."

pitty fuck, lol.

7/24/2006 5:32:31 PM

people are trying to hook up with you on the regular? or is this for a friend?

7/24/2006 5:32:34 PM

OmarBadu, I swear to goodness the fatter I get, the more guys come on to me. They think it means I don't care about myself and am down for whatever. They also think it means I don't get a lot of action and am easy. Oh, and some of them just love fat chicks.

7/24/2006 5:34:15 PM

^ hits nail on head

(all 3 points)

7/24/2006 5:35:52 PM

fat women are suppoesed to give good head i guess

7/24/2006 5:36:33 PM

My advice wasn't to constantly refer to some phantom boyfriend. I said, you should FIND a guy who you can actually go out with, and let the guys know you are dating someone. It's a practical way to get out of the retarded emotional bullshit.

And also I never said to bring this guy around for your hangouts like some protector. I think that would end up gaying up your fun time anyway.

Just let the guys know that they are your buddies and are in the friend zone, give them the example guy you are dating to let them know that there is a zone for other guys that they can't get to. Don't read all the psycho-babble historical feminist references into this, no guy knows about, or cares about what the historical significance is.

What they do know is that if you are currently gettin peen from another dude, they would be sloppy seconds, and you would then be cheating to be with them. Two lines most guys won't cross with their girl friends, and if they still come after you it's a good sign they are pretty creepy.

7/24/2006 5:37:21 PM

If your friends just want to get fucked up and come on to you, you don't have friends.

In future, please be sure to refer to "guys I get drunk with for the attention." Past the age of about fifteen, no one's buying the "I'm a girl and I really thought we were all just friends!" naivete bullshit. You know the deal by now. Willful ignorance doesn't change anything.


I'm serious about use of the word friend, by the way. What the fuck should your real friends think when you use that word to describe the relationships you have with guys you lead on who are just trying to get drunk and have sex with you?

7/24/2006 7:36:18 PM

wow...this thread contains A LOT of words

7/24/2006 7:38:17 PM

^^ not true, just because a guy wants to hit it, doesnt make him not your friend. you just need to realize they want to hit it.

7/24/2006 7:51:09 PM

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"this thread contains A LOT of words"

ALWAYS QUESTION THE INTENTIONS OF A GUY

[Edited on July 24, 2006 at 9:09 PM. Reason : i know that's not very helpful]

7/24/2006 9:08:38 PM

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"Bakunin: If your friends just want to get fucked up and come on to you, you don't have friends. In future, please be sure to refer to "guys I get drunk with for the attention." Past the age of about fifteen, no one's buying the "I'm a girl and I really thought we were all just friends!" naivete bullshit. You know the deal by now. Willful ignorance doesn't change anything. I'm serious about use of the word friend, by the way. What the fuck should your real friends think when you use that word to describe the relationships you have with guys you lead on who are just trying to get drunk and have sex with you?"

I object to this idea that I'm looking for attention. I also don't think I lead guys on--that's what this thread is about...does hanging out with a guy and drinking with him qualify as leading him on? If that's the case, then I'm guilty, guilty, guilty.

And the whole "what makes someone a friend" thing is something I'm still wrestling with. There are guys who are "just trying to get drunk and have sex," and I keep their phone numbers in my mobile but only because I want to know if they're calling so I won't pick up when they do. They are not in my "friends" group and do not get my "friends" ring.

But some other guys aren't "just trying to get drunk and have sex" all the time. They call me for advice, tell me their problems, cry on the phone to me, give me (realistic) compliments, listen to my problems and encourage me to do shit about them. Those are the guys I worry about hurting and get angry with because I never know if all that "friend" shit is just an act or what. Don't you get it? You accuse me of leading guys on, but they're the ones leading me on.

I want to know if dishonesty is something I should just expect, and what I'm taking away from this thread is that it is something I should expect.

Thanks for the criticism though. If you'd told me that two to three years ago, you definitely would have had a point.

7/24/2006 9:23:13 PM

Bridget, you need to just learn how to close your damn legs dude, the whole thread realizes you got fucked a few times from this, let it go, and use some control next time like a wine cork.

7/24/2006 9:26:00 PM

^This isn't about me having sex. This is about me getting propositioned and NOT having sex and wondering if I can ever trust that a guy actually just wants to be my friend. And the answer I'm getting is that no, unless I'm ridiculously awesome (which I'm not), I can never trust that some guy is interested in being my friend. I'm just not that great, I guess.

[Edited on July 24, 2006 at 9:34 PM. Reason : sss]

7/24/2006 9:29:31 PM

i have to wonder why you're hanging out with the boys when you feel like getting fucked up- as opposed to your girlfriends.

i usually find that guys who hang around chicks all the time do it for one of two reasons:

1. they are just looking to get laid.
It's a numbers game, the more a guys hangs around multiple chicks, the greater his chances for catching at least one of them at a vulnerable moment- ie they are drunk, just broke up with their bf, haven't had sex in a really long time. etc. these guys do not make good friends for obvious reasons, they are desperate and pathetic enough to start drama and are only going to hang out with you because they think they have a chance. when a chick makes it clear that he will never get the goods, he gets pissed, but rest assured that he already has plenty of other 'friends' and moves on to the next one.

2. they suck at getting laid.
these are the overweight, dorky, socially retarded, and recently heartbroken guys that are so intimidated by women, they figure that if they hang out with a chick who they know they aren't attracted to (or can't have), maybe she will teach them some game or how to get over that horrible bitch that broke up with them. these guys seldom have many male friends because they are too embarassing to be seen with, OR they are the first to ditch the boys whenever a piece of poon comes along. women feel sorry for these pathetic guys, so they take them under their wing.

Things change when you examine chicks who hang out with multiple guys, however, but there is only one general reason why they do this:

1. They can't get enough attention.
Girls who say, "I just get along better with guys, they aren't as catty" are nothing but your common attention whore. They hate the competition with other chicks who are prettier than them, so they switch things around by saying "everyone is so mean and jealous of me" so people will feel sorry for them. The truth is, regardless of how hot said chick really is, she HAS to be the hottest chick in the room at all times or else she feels inadequate, so she hangs out with guys she knows she would never sleep with and soaks up all the attention. It would probably be easier to hang out with fat chicks, but these attention whores want ALL the attention, so if a guy talks to one of her fatass friends (which guys do all the time), she will flip out. These types of chicks usually hang out with guys who only care about getting laid, because the pathetic/needy guy would demand attention from her.


Based on my own scientific theory, I would say that by hanging around guys all the time, you are an attention whore that hangs around guys only interested in getting laid. Find some girlfriends to get drunk with, unless you really just HAVE to be the center of attention...

7/24/2006 9:42:56 PM

Urrrrrrrrrrrr, the yo.... problem obviously is guys only want to have sex with you, I mean, RIGHT?

[Edited on July 24, 2006 at 9:44 PM. Reason : Have you thought this out on paper?]

7/24/2006 9:43:32 PM

maybe they are hoping to be friends w/ benefits. Espicially if u are drinking a lot even if the guy doesn't want to necessarily date u they will still try to flirt and be sexually interested. They might even do it just messing around not even expecting to actually hook up. You just gotta lay down the law.

^^ as far as your comment i agree w/ what u say. Almost every girl i know who says "I have a lot more guy friends, the girl friends" for whatever the bullshit reason; 90% of the time the girl is a slut and will end up fucking some of her guy friends anyway.

7/24/2006 9:49:30 PM

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"Things change when you examine chicks who hang out with multiple guys, however, but there is only one general reason why they do this: 1. They can't get enough attention. Girls who say, "I just get along better with guys, they aren't as catty" are nothing but your common attention whore. "

Yep. Any girl who says she's friends with a lot of guys but doesn't have many girl friends is fucked up. There are no exceptions to this rule.

7/24/2006 9:53:38 PM

yeah she doesn't have many girl friends b.c

A. Other girls don't want to be around them b.c they are such sluts.

B. The girl feels insecure and doesn't like the competion

C. They get laid more often hanging around a bunch of guys going back to A.

I'm not saying their is anything wrong w/ girls having lots of guys friends but its usually a bad sign when they have very few female friends. but their are always exceptions to the rules

7/24/2006 9:56:56 PM

Thats not a scientific theory.

Thats just a theory.

7/24/2006 10:01:16 PM

i mean seriously, bridget

you're purposely putting yourself in a situation where you will receive attention just for being a girl, and it certainly doesn't sound like youre hanging out with pussies who are too scared/socially retarded to even try and approach you sexually.

if you view this attention as negative/unwanted- you would have refused to put yourself in situations like this after it had happend the first time, or you wouldn't have even have contemplated doing it in the first place.

if it really bothers you that much, you wouldn't be hangin with boys and getting drunk- you'd be hanging out with females who were pissed that all the guy friends theyve ever had pulled the same old shit with them too

but sometimes negative attention is better than no attention at all i guess

7/24/2006 10:02:01 PM

This is all really good stuff. Some of it definitely applies to me, particularly the part about repeatedly putting myself in the same situation, hoping for different results. I do have more girl friends than guy friends though, and I've never been one to crave attention from men (but I've always gotten it so I guess I don't know what it's like not to get it and crave it as a result).

Most of this stuff is stuff that I should have learned a long time ago, but I'm kinda slow when it comes to social shit. I also don't consider myself attractive (phsyically and personality-wise) so, even though I know that some guys are horndogs, I'm always a little surprised at their advances and even more surprised/put off when they want to date me. In other words, I act like social standards/norms don't apply to me.

I guess I always knew the deal but hoped it wasn't so. This thread is basically confirming what I suspected, and the whole thing just sucks.

[Edited on July 24, 2006 at 10:36 PM. Reason : sss]

7/24/2006 10:19:43 PM

yea, but once the reality sinks in, you can go back to hanging out with them again and just know the game being played. it only takes denying each of them a few brutal times before they will just give it up and actually hang out, or never talk to you again

7/24/2006 10:43:46 PM

i think if you really wanted to solve the problem, you should pick out one of the guys to bang. then you have the one fuck buddy so you can still go hang out, get drunk and left alone, and then get no-strings laid in the process. everybody wins.

7/24/2006 10:49:01 PM

without pics, i always thought you were a dude who stole an account

7/24/2006 10:57:51 PM

Wait you mean you never realized some of these guys hung out with you just to have sex? I thought, you got that part. Not every guy will go after you like that, you seem to grab the ones that seem to do it, tho. it's kinda funny because you seem to get ones with something in common, AND IT'S EVERY SINGLE GUYS FAULT.

7/25/2006 1:02:08 AM

^???

If you wanna call me a whore, call me a whore. Don't be a pussy about it.

(You need to elaborate. I'm a n00b.)

[Edited on July 25, 2006 at 1:42 AM. Reason : sss]

7/25/2006 1:32:20 AM

QUOTE: Girls are mean, boys are stupid, and life is hard. /QUOTE.

[Edited on July 25, 2006 at 1:48 AM. Reason : wajklwiornwqiorn vqio]

7/25/2006 1:36:23 AM

^You think I care for the advice of someone who laughs at my questions?

"AHAHAHAHAHA. You're so stupid! AHAHAHA"

I'm obviously stupid when it comes to this nonsense. I've never played the game so I don't understand the game...that's one reason why I started this thread.

But you got your chance to be cruel. Hope you enjoyed it.

[Edited on July 25, 2006 at 1:43 AM. Reason : ]

7/25/2006 1:42:15 AM

The guys spewing emotion are not falling in love with you, they have just fallen in love with the idea of fucking you.

7/25/2006 1:42:20 AM

No one's saying you're a whore, I say you're hanging out with the wrong crowd.

7/25/2006 1:46:44 AM

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"^You think I care for the advice of someone who laughs at my questions?"

Way to jump the gun love.
I was laughing at the idea of a guy lying...and then the idea of a guy pretending...
I wasn't laughing at you. Jesus christ, I'm sorry. I'll edit so the world will be okay again.

[Edited on July 25, 2006 at 1:49 AM. Reason : and yet someone calls you fat/a whore and you don't say anything to them..]

7/25/2006 1:47:47 AM

how could this happen to bridgetspk

7/25/2006 1:48:12 AM

what is this "sex" you speak of?

7/25/2006 1:48:27 AM

pawprint, it's no big deal. Everybody in this thread has done such a good job of being sensitive that I jumped to conclusions at your "ahahahahaha."

firmbuttgntl, no doubt, man.

Bakunin, for real though.

7/25/2006 1:54:29 AM

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"what is this "sex" you speak of?"

7/25/2006 3:27:40 AM

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"Things change when you examine chicks who hang out with multiple guys, however, but there is only one general reason why they do this: 1. They can't get enough attention. Girls who say, "I just get along better with guys, they aren't as catty" are nothing but your common attention whore."

Am I the only girl here that has a problem with this statement??

I grew up hanging out with guys...call me a tomboy, sure, but that's what I was. I had female friends too, but I just preferred to hang with the guys...climb trees, play soccer, whatever. To this day there are only 2 girls from my childhood that I maintain contact with, and unfortunately they don't live anywhere near me.

I still prefer to hang out with guys, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. There are times I crave "girl time", but in my profession I'm pretty much surrounded by men, so its what I'm used to. YES the attention is nice, but guys create just as much drama as girls do...its just a different type. Personally I'm more willing to put up with a guy's bs than a girl's.

I have some very close female friends, but again they don't live anywhere near me. Furthermore, here at the beach there is just drama everywhere...honestly I spend more time with my puppy on the beach or sound then I do trying to meet people who aren't screwed up in one way or another (note: yes I realize everyone has their issues, but I'm talking about people that are relatively normal).

Back to topic, you can't say that you don't want to get with so-and-so but continue to behave in a manner that suggests you're interested. We all do it, whether we realize it or not, but unless you are 100% straight up with the guy and say something to the effect of no, never, not interested, he'll probably find some glimmer of hope and continue to look for the "right time" to make his move. I'm a VERY social person, too nice, and it is never my intention to lead a guy on. However sometimes it happens, and when it does, I just tell him that I'm not interested and that I'm sorry if I gave him the wrong impression.

As for the respect issue, a guy is gonna think what he wants to think...in his mind, you're either gonna have your clothes on, or off...and its probably off. The important thing is whether or not he lets that mental image/desire/whatever-you-want-to-call-it consume his actions. If he cares enough about you, then the respect will follow. If he only has one thing on his mind, sure he can still respect you, but most of it might just be a front.

7/25/2006 8:56:28 AM

Another important point. Just because I guy wants to fuck you ladies, does not necessarily mean he likes you, wants to date you, or thinks your cute.

7/25/2006 10:16:53 AM

^^ one of the more intelligent posts from a female that I've read.

7/25/2006 11:12:42 AM

well thank you

7/25/2006 11:42:58 AM

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"Things change when you examine chicks who hang out with multiple guys, however, but there is only one general reason why they do this: 1. They can't get enough attention. Girls who say, "I just get along better with guys, they aren't as catty" are nothing but your common attention whore.""

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"Am I the only girl here that has a problem with this statement??"

this might not be true in your situation but that statement definitely isnt wrong in some situations

[Edited on July 25, 2006 at 11:46 AM. Reason : .]

[Edited on July 25, 2006 at 11:48 AM. Reason : .]

7/25/2006 11:46:12 AM

I haven't read the whole thread yet, so if this has already been asked, I apologize.

Has this happened more than once with the same guy? Like, is it a few guys who consistently do this, or do you happen to hang out with a lot of different guys and most tend to act like this?

7/25/2006 11:48:55 AM

Not to take away from^

but this has def. been an interesting thread, i found myself thinking the same things about the different girls that i know that claim the "i have more guy friends b/c they are just less catty" and i came to the conclusion that although they seem like there doing there damndest to lead you on and have a neon sign blinking saying as much.... they are simply starving for attention and to act whorishly.... I wasnt sure if this conclusion had any merit... but i am clearly not the only one who has run across this.

In fact i would say that UJUSTWAIT was dead on.... I am sure there is the infrequent exception to the rule, but i have found that the gender make up of a girls friends tends to define how they are.... and it follows quite closely to what was said.

7/25/2006 12:36:38 PM

Find better friends I say.

7/25/2006 1:53:13 PM

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"Lewizzle: Another important point. Just because I guy wants to fuck you ladies, does not necessarily mean he likes you, wants to date you, or thinks your cute."

That's a given. The ladies get it, particularly the ones who are present for the cruder conversations had between boys. It's pretty pathetic, if you ask me.

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"JSnail: Am I the only girl here that has a problem with this statement??"

I didn't have a problem with it. It was clearly a generalization because there's no way UJustWait84 could possibly have been talking about every girl who has more guy friends than girl friends. Some people get a little carried away with their insights.

Honestly, I've only known one girl who had more guy friends than girl friends. She was drop dead gorgeous (and didn't know it) and incredibly sweet. She was definitely insecure, but that was never manifested in any sort of competitive streak where she wanted all the attention. In fact, she was one of the most supportive females I've ever known. And she didn't go along with the "boys will boys" act either; she was always quick to say something wasn't right or object to the way other females were being treated. Awesome girl.

7/25/2006 3:37:24 PM

I am absolutely astounded that Kiwi hasn't posted in this thread yet, since it involves sex and all.

7/25/2006 3:40:51 PM

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"Things change when you examine chicks who hang out with multiple guys, however, but there is only one general reason why they do this:"

not all females are this way, but many drama prone ones are

7/25/2006 3:44:06 PM

after reading this entire thread from top to bottom, i think it needs to be said that not ALL guys are these evil sex hungry monsters. there are still some gentlemen in the world. yes they are few and far between but they do exist. i at least try my best to carry myself in a respectful way around ALL girls, be they friends, girlfriends, fuck buddys, or whatever. let me say that i do enjoy sex just as much as the next guy but it doesn't control who i am. if sex is available "yes please", if not then i am strong enough to be able to control my desire and still be able to chill with the girl. with that said, if your "friends" continue to hit on you after you've said no, then they are retarded simpletons that cannot control themselves and do not deserve your friendship.

7/26/2006 1:44:14 PM

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"after reading this entire thread from top to bottom, i think it needs to be said that not ALL guys are these evil sex hungry monsters. there are still some gentlemen in the world. yes they are few and far between but they do exist."

even on TWW.... (talking about me)

7/26/2006 1:54:22 PM

^^ and ^

Yall aren't gentlemen, you are just lying to yourselves and the girls you are around. Much better to just get the shit out in the open and get it over with. I'm sure pretty much any girl would rather know you want her, than to fake it like you just want to be her friend.

A gentleman would be a guy who genuinely doesnt want to do said things even if it was offered.

7/26/2006 2:00:23 PM