The horse was running as fast as the dragon flying. My god what a fucking horrible movie.

[Edited on December 17, 2006 at 12:12 PM. Reason : :]

12/17/2006 12:08:37 PM

I liked the dragon, but the movie moved too fast. How did they go from "she's too young to sustain a flame" to the final battle scene so fast? I felt like the movie needed to be longer. It seems a little DragonRiders of Pern to me, except that the dragon won't hatch until its rider is near or whatnot. It does make me want to read the book.

12/17/2006 10:47:30 PM

omg i cant believe I just spend 2 hrs watching that

12/17/2006 11:13:25 PM

Movie was terrible.

12/17/2006 11:43:46 PM

SandSanta,

I'm saying that Eragon is the exact same as Star Wars with a few simple name changes but in a LOTR setting. I thought this before reading any message board. Feel free to try to back away from that point as far as you can until you have convinced yourself that it is just a case of every hero story following the same outline.

Don't be an idiot fanboy. The book was trash. If it didn't have the selling point of being written by a kid no one would have given it two looks.

[Edited on December 18, 2006 at 11:55 AM. Reason : -]

12/18/2006 11:54:46 AM

I've only read like a quarter of the book, but yeah, it's Star Wars. Dragon Riders = the Jedi Council. Galbotorix = Vader/Sidius (he hunted down and destroyed the Jedis/Dragon Riders). The empire = the empire. Eragon is Luke, Brom is Obi Wan. Magic is the force, dragons are lightsabres. That kid should be sued.

12/18/2006 1:52:47 PM

Yeah when Brom was keeping up with Eragon when he was on a horse and Eragon was on a dragon I was laughing, lol. That's either the fastest horse ever or that dragon is slow as shit.

But yeah, I have a feeling the books have to be much better than the movie.

And when the dragon was small I did find myself wishing I had a baby dragon, haha.

[Edited on December 18, 2006 at 2:15 PM. Reason : .]

12/18/2006 2:15:29 PM

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"omg i cant believe I just spend 2 hrs watching that"

you didn't, you spent an hour and half...unless you saw the directors cut.

12/18/2006 2:24:19 PM

was this movie the piece of shit that it looked like on the commercials?

12/18/2006 2:33:23 PM

if they can't make a movie look good in the commericals, the movie must be horrible

i mean, they make all kinds of pieces of shit look awesome in commericals, so it must be bad if they fail at that

12/18/2006 3:22:50 PM

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"'m saying that Eragon is the exact same as Star Wars with a few simple name changes but in a LOTR setting. I thought this before reading any message board. Feel free to try to back away from that point as far as you can until you have convinced yourself that it is just a case of every hero story following the same outline."

Dude, how fucking dumb do you have to be to comprehend a simple point: Star Wars itself is slapped together by drawing on elements from a ton of other shit. Yea, the book is a crib of star wars but that doesn't really matter because star wars itself presents absolutely no original thought or story point on top of the traditional hero/coming of age story.

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"Don't be an idiot fanboy. The book was trash. If it didn't have the selling point of being written by a kid no one would have given it two looks."

Dude, if this is your definition of trash then I seriously want to know what you consider to be a good fantasy novel. Not everything needs 1 million 1000 page books (Wheel of Time; Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn) or plots completely the fuck out there (<3 Neil Richard Gaiman) to be awesome and original.

I mean, if its the same as Star Wars and you liked Star Wars then are you hating this just because its a copy of the Lucas 'masterpeice' or did you just utterly not like Star Wars either?

I'm taking the opposite stance as you and a billion other tards on the internet, if this book hadn't been written by a 15 year old then it wouldn't inspire such retarded criticism as "IT COPIED FROM STAR WARS WHICH ACTUALLY COPIED FROM SOMETHING ELSE WHICH IN TURN COPIED FROM + infinity!!111!"

[Edited on December 18, 2006 at 3:27 PM. Reason : >.<]

12/18/2006 3:26:31 PM

they spelled dragon wrong.

12/18/2006 3:32:49 PM

This thread has gone to the shitter so

12/18/2006 3:33:50 PM

much like your posting

12/18/2006 3:36:05 PM

Eric

Tribes sucks.

Sorry to break it to you man .

12/18/2006 4:05:49 PM

fuck you and die fag

12/18/2006 4:09:09 PM

Isn't starsiege just a copy of the Mechwarrior universe ANYWAY

12/18/2006 4:11:10 PM

haha

12/18/2006 4:33:34 PM

read one fantasy you've read them all

12/18/2006 5:26:31 PM

If you're talking about pulp fantasy novels yes. Of course, that goes for any genre of pulp.

If you want a fantasy novel that doesn't feel like a rework of the ideas from Lord of the Rings, then try something by Terry Pratchet like "The Color of Magic."

12/18/2006 5:36:45 PM

So...I got the book as an early xmas present, guess I can read it and forgo actually seeing the movie?

12/18/2006 8:46:26 PM

If you couldn't figure that answer out by reading even only this page of the thread then the book will fly over your head and you should definitely see the movie.

12/19/2006 2:26:23 AM

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"Star Wars itself is slapped together by..."

And Eragon is slapped together by opening the Star Wars script in notepad, pressing Ctrl+h, typing Luke Skywalker in the in the "Find what:" box, typing Eragon in the "Replace with:" box, and clicking the Replace All button. At least Lucas spent 30 minutes harvesting his ideas.

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"I'm taking the opposite stance as you and a billion other tards on the internet, if this book hadn't been written by a 15 year old then it wouldn't inspire such retarded criticism as "IT COPIED FROM STAR WARS WHICH ACTUALLY COPIED FROM SOMETHING ELSE WHICH IN TURN COPIED FROM + infinity!!111!""

I agree with this. Although if not for the 15 year old gimmick I doubt the book would have reached the point where anyone would have read it.

[Edited on December 19, 2006 at 7:52 AM. Reason : -]

12/19/2006 7:50:06 AM

I still don't understand why everyone's so upset. I didn't even see the whole Star Wars link until everyone started screaming OMGSTARWARSRIPOFFWTFBBQ?????? If you've read the book, then you should rather have been seeing links to the Dragonriders of Pern, to LoTR, and to Earthsea, not to mention many other fantasy novels that Paolini admittedly referenced as inspiration when writing his book. The only themes from Star Wars that I see are the same ones I see in many other fantasty/scifi books and movies, which SandSanta has already discussed.

If anything, I think Paolini's book is a masterpiece as an homage to the great works of the fantasy genre, a theme that he pulled off rather well.

[Edited on December 19, 2006 at 11:32 AM. Reason : for a 15-year-old]

12/19/2006 11:30:53 AM

Nerd.

12/19/2006 11:35:03 AM

^it's true.

12/19/2006 12:22:41 PM

There really isn't a reference to Star Wars.

People just call that out because they haven't actually read that much fantasy and Star Wars basically tore everything it knows from fantasy books.

Big surprise then that two works drawing from the same source are similar.

I mean, not to nerd out on a book that really isn't good enough to warrant this much discussion but the central theme in the story is the Dragon/rider relationship which actually doesn't have any counterpart in Star Wars. In fact, this dynamic is the only thing that makes the book worth reading as its a bit of a refreshing step away from DRAGON IS BIG BAD BEAST!111! archetype.

12/19/2006 12:34:04 PM

man this movie was a blatant ripoff of The Hidden Fortress

12/19/2006 1:49:13 PM

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"If anything, I think Paolini's book is a masterpiece as an homage to the great works of the fantasy genre, a theme that he pulled off rather well."

the books are fucking good, i dont give a shit what anyone says

12/19/2006 4:17:40 PM

man this movie was a blatant ripoff of Eragon

...and they didn't even do a good job of ripping it off

12/19/2006 7:20:05 PM

There was definitely a Luke I am your father moment in Eldest

12/19/2006 9:07:48 PM

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"I mean, not to nerd out on a book that really isn't good enough to warrant this much discussion but the central theme in the story is the Dragon/rider relationship which actually doesn't have any counterpart in Star Wars. In fact, this dynamic is the only thing that makes the book worth reading as its a bit of a refreshing step away from DRAGON IS BIG BAD BEAST!111! archetype."

I agree with all that sandsanta has been saying!
he does such a good job centering around the relationship between eragon and the dragon you know the kind of personas they have more than anyone else in the book. while still keeping other characters prominent enough to make it very interesting to read everything going on. he did a good job with the book! quit bashing it, the only reason its a popular book is because its a GOOD BOOK TO READ not because the kid is 16.

12/19/2006 9:30:59 PM

Don't waste your money to go to the theatre to see the movie. It's way to long and drags on and on and on.

I would almost consider it a cross between harry potter and the lord of the rings
both of them are good movies seperate but don't combine them.

It was pretty corny too.

I didn't read the book, but I have a feeling with all the hype that this movie was getting, it didn't do any justice for the book.

If you wanna see it either wait until it goes to the $1.50 theatre, or you borrow it from a friend on dvd.

12/23/2006 9:47:07 PM

it dragged in spots.. but it could have been worse. over all I didnt mind seeing, it was good enough to entertain me

it was 1.5 hours ... how short should movies be ?

[Edited on December 23, 2006 at 9:50 PM. Reason : .]

12/23/2006 9:49:02 PM

It just kinda reminded me of one of my pastor's sermons. You think it's about to be done and then bam! there is more to go.

to me it seemed like it was 3 hours long, the person that I went with said the same thing.


However we did get some awesome entertainment before the movie. We got a summary of the whole movie by a bunch of 11 year old boys. I think they got their first hard-on during it.

12/23/2006 10:15:55 PM

The plot is pretty much identical to star wars. The book at least, haven't seen the movie.

12/23/2006 10:37:14 PM

Good thing you read the entire thread and provided good discussion!

RECOMMEND POSTER A+++++

12/24/2006 12:20:27 PM

at least people are finally admiting star wars is fantasy and not sci fi

12/25/2006 2:25:23 AM

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"People just call that out because they haven't actually read that much fantasy and Star Wars basically tore everything it knows from fantasy books."

or Joseph Campbell or 1930s Flash Gordon serials, or...

[Edited on December 25, 2006 at 12:32 PM. Reason : .]

12/25/2006 12:32:08 PM

trolled

12/25/2006 1:22:50 PM

^^^

For what it's worth, Wiki currently lumps Star Wars under "Space Opera", a sub-genre of Sci-Fi (though not hard science fiction).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_opera

[Edited on December 25, 2006 at 5:35 PM. Reason : .]

12/25/2006 5:34:51 PM

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"The movie is trash. Jeremy irons is good, but has to deliver some shitty lines at times. Other than that, and the really well done dragon character, the movie is terrible."

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"19 year old wrote the book but it seems a 12 year old wrote the script."

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"yeah. they really butchered that."

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""The Movie" has got to be the worst sequence of events ever captured by a camera. I mean Jesus Christ, the plot isn't at all that complicated, why do you have to cut out half of it and basically rewrite the entire story? Its as if they read an Amazon.com synopsis and converted that into film."

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"And when the dragon was small I did find myself wishing I had a baby dragon, haha."

[Edited on March 23, 2007 at 10:17 PM. Reason : i did think the guy they cast for eragon had potential, but the script just sucked]

[Edited on March 23, 2007 at 10:18 PM. Reason : and they did a good job with how sapphira looks]

3/23/2007 10:17:13 PM