bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
Unfortunately there is no complete list. There's just too damn many people. But someone mildly famous might be mentioned in the cardplayer.com blog.
You'd still have to search through the whole thing. I'll let you know if I see anything about that guy when I'm reading it later tonight as it happens. (it just started a half-hour ago for the day) 7/31/2006 4:22:55 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
Tim Kelly, remember that name. 7/31/2006 4:27:57 PM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
Final Table begins tomorrow at 2:00 PST
Well, the actual final table was yesterday with Quote : | " Seat 1 - Richard Lee $8,465,000 Seat 2 - Erik Friberg $5,905,000 Seat 3 - Paul Wasicka $4,750,000 Seat 4 - Dan Nassif $5,865,000 Seat 5 - Allen Cunningham $18,000,000 Seat 6 - Michael Binger $3,640,000 Seat 7 - Doug Kim $6,190,000 Seat 8 - Fred Goldberg $4,265,000 Seat 9 - Jamie Gold $27,330,000 Seat 10 - Rhett Butler $5,165,000 " |
But they always play until they only have 9, so the WSOP official final table seats and chip counts are
Quote : | " Seat 1 - Richard Lee - $11,820,000 Seat 2 - Erik Friberg - $9,605,000 Seat 3 - Paul Wasicka - $7,970,000 Seat 4 - Dan Nassif - $2,600,000 Seat 5 - Allen Cunningham - $17,770,000 Seat 6 - Michael Binger - $3,140,000 Seat 7 - Doug Kim - $6,770,000 Seat 8 - Jamie Gold - $26,650,000 Seat 9 - Rhett Butler - $4,815,000 " |
You have to love Jamie Gold's stack, and he's got a few cashes in his history, but Allen Cunningham is a very experienced pro. He has 88 major tourney cashes, with 14 wins. He has 4 bracelets including one this year already in No-Limit Hold'em and a top ten finish in 2-7 Triple Draw.
Most of the others are unknowns, but Lee has a small cash in '05 and Wasicka has several cashes, Binger has 3.8/9/2006 8:09:48 AM |
triple r 7 All American 2451 Posts user info edit post |
Allen Cunningham is a huge favorite 8/9/2006 8:47:36 AM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
gold won't win it 8/9/2006 1:31:01 PM |
Nashattack All American 7022 Posts user info edit post |
I'll pick Wasicka and Cunningham heads up and heads up is usually a coinflip if someone isn't completely dominated. 8/9/2006 1:38:05 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "heads up is usually a coinflip if someone isn't completely dominated. due to the fact a deal has been made long prior to getting HU" |
[Edited on August 9, 2006 at 1:41 PM. Reason : w]8/9/2006 1:41:30 PM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
Not all tourneys get chopped. Some touneys actually ban chopping, but I don't think its this one.
Especially because the tourney winnings aren't even the half of what's to come for winning this tournament. And you can be damn sure Cunningham could give two shits about this money. The bracelet is on his mind. 8/9/2006 1:45:45 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
wpt bans chopping.
wsop chopping happens quite a bit... (at least the last two main events, not sure about moneymakers or before) usually with a stay for the winner.
[Edited on August 9, 2006 at 2:06 PM. Reason : e] 8/9/2006 2:05:03 PM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not saying chopping doesn't happen a lot, you're totally right. But calling it a coin-flip isn't true because you know top pros care more about the bracelet anyhow. Winning the tourney gives you endorsements and fame, coming in 2nd, notsomuch.
So, they still play their hearts out even if they do chop. 8/9/2006 2:35:24 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
did you watch the HU match the past two years? 8/9/2006 2:46:10 PM |
Nashattack All American 7022 Posts user info edit post |
they've been all-in fests... but what was the chop last year? 8/9/2006 3:16:13 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
both 2005 and 2004 there were deals made.
it was brutally obvious by the play,
and raymer and others have not been shy about talking about the deals. 8/9/2006 3:20:29 PM |
MacTuckIzzle Suspended 1614 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And you can be damn sure Cunningham could give two shits about this money. The bracelet is on his mind. " |
I don't care who you are as a poker player, $12mil is ALWAYS on your mind.8/9/2006 3:33:02 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
^yea, these guys ARE in it for the money 8/9/2006 6:35:40 PM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, well I tell you what ask Chan, Hellmuth, Brunson, Ivey, Negreanu, and other top pros (Cunningham included because he is a top pro) If they would trade 12 mil for being world champ again (or for the first time)
I bet they all say they would. 8/9/2006 8:17:40 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
my comment still stands 8/9/2006 8:20:45 PM |
MacTuckIzzle Suspended 1614 Posts user info edit post |
I didnt say they would trade it, but $12mil is on their mind. When you are playing for that much money, no matter who the player is, you are going to be thinking about $12mil.
[Edited on August 9, 2006 at 8:59 PM. Reason : .] 8/9/2006 8:59:12 PM |
MacTuckIzzle Suspended 1614 Posts user info edit post |
Oh, and Allen Cunningham won his seat into the main event on Full Tilt, and they announced before the WSOP, if you qualified on FT for the main event, and win, they will double the prize money. And I don't care what you say, I think Cunningham would rather have $24mil than win the main event. 8/9/2006 9:22:18 PM |
Wintermute All American 1171 Posts user info edit post |
No mention that Michael Binger is an NCSU alumni?
Smart guy too: http://arxiv.org/find/hep-ph/1/au:+Binger_M/0/1/0/all/0/1 8/9/2006 10:18:26 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
^sweet. 8/9/2006 10:20:18 PM |
Nashattack All American 7022 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I read the first two sentences of one of his Abstract's and got a headache.. pretty impressive
but, anyone know if the final table is over yet or where you can see LIVE updates? worldseriesofpoker.com isnt updating live that I could find 8/10/2006 1:57:46 AM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And I don't care what you say, I think Cunningham would rather have $24mil than win the main event. " |
You're wrong. Allen Cunningham is considered one of the best poker players on earth. Problem is, no one outside of people who watch poker a lot know that. Lots of people have never even heard of him. He plays in a home game with Ivey and several other "famous" top pros who've all said publicly that he's the best player. But no one recognizes him outside of really big poker fans.
He's worth many times over $24 million, and I'm not saying it doesn't matter to him. But if you chop that right now, he'll play the tournament the exact same way, because the bracelet is to him the super bowl, the world series, to coup de gras or whatever the hell you want to call it. He wants that bracelet.
It will be interesting though, because if I were at that table, I'd ask for a 9 way chop and we all dump to the FT winner. I wonder if FT has a rule against chops so they won't pay. I'd bet they do.8/10/2006 6:58:43 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Wintermute All American 814 Posts user info edit post " |
Ive always wondered if this guy is who i think he is.
[Edited on August 10, 2006 at 8:25 AM. Reason : e]8/10/2006 8:25:17 AM |
MacTuckIzzle Suspended 1614 Posts user info edit post |
^^I know who he is, and I know he is a badass player. He was part of the original "crew" with Juanda, Ivey, and Negreanu. But I really doubt he is "worth $24mil many times over. So you are telling me he is worth like $100mil? Wrong. And you are still missing my point. I know he wants the bracelet, and its something all poker players want, but for $24mil THE MONEY WILL BE ON HIS MIND. You are acting like he isnt even acknoweldging its there. And I don't think any football player would trade a Superbowl ring for $24mil. And honestly, some of the best poker players are going to tell you they would probably rather have the bracelet, but in reality, you know damn well they would trade it for $24mil. 8/10/2006 1:25:03 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
^^^so would everyone else, what the fuck is your point? 8/10/2006 1:38:44 PM |
kpbowker Veteran 127 Posts user info edit post |
^^ dan marino, ted williams : they'd probably make the trade 8/10/2006 5:38:12 PM |
MacTuckIzzle Suspended 1614 Posts user info edit post |
Nope. 8/10/2006 5:46:10 PM |
ncsuGALxcPaC All American 4160 Posts user info edit post |
Are you serious?
Gonnneeeee Wittthhh The Windddddddd8/10/2006 5:46:30 PM |
MacTuckIzzle Suspended 1614 Posts user info edit post |
1 Jamie Gold 32,500,000 2 Richard Lee 17,110,000 3 Allen Cunningham 12,650,000 4 Doug Kim 8,930,000 5 Rhett Butler 5,545,000 6 Erik Friberg 5,125,000 7 Paul Wasicka 3,990,000 8 Michael Binger 3,640,000
As of 7:50est 8/10/2006 7:50:23 PM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
I fucking guarantee Marino would trade 24 mil for a super bowl ring...(legitimately earned, mind you) 8/10/2006 9:22:18 PM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
And yes, considering he owns stake in Full Tilt, I do think cunningham is worth ~100 M 8/10/2006 9:22:54 PM |
MacTuckIzzle Suspended 1614 Posts user info edit post |
Well I think he's not, and since neither one of us can prove how much money he has, this argument is pointless. 8/10/2006 11:16:39 PM |
Nashattack All American 7022 Posts user info edit post |
Jamie Gold now has 52 mil.. WELL over half the chips in play
Cunningham in 3rd with ~13 mil 8/11/2006 12:25:13 AM |
daman04 Veteran 241 Posts user info edit post |
link to the espn coverage of the final table, no hole cams though
http://a368.l2047451863.c20474.g.lm.akamai...reflector:51863 8/11/2006 12:27:38 AM |
Nashattack All American 7022 Posts user info edit post |
you gotta pay to see that according to espn 8/11/2006 2:30:57 AM |
Nashattack All American 7022 Posts user info edit post |
http://a368.l2047451863.c20474.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/368/20474/v0001/reflector:51863 to see the final table
Allen just got taken to school... his pocket 10s got bluffed off a HUGE pot by KQd... granted it woulda been hard as hell to call with the board being AJlow hearts then turn A
Couple hands before he schooled Gold and I can't wait to see what they had when the hole cams are shown. 8/11/2006 4:28:47 AM |
Nashattack All American 7022 Posts user info edit post |
HU now on the main event... its not much of a match now... 78 mil vs. 12 mil 8/11/2006 6:10:29 AM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
Well, Gold takes it down, but Binger (from NCSU) won 3rd and passes Michael Gratz in the money game 8/11/2006 7:27:23 AM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
Yahoo is calling the winning hand a big bluff, but I wanna see it on TV. 8/11/2006 1:51:53 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
i thought the winning hand was.. loser raises preflop... winner calls. winner pairs his Q on the flop, other guy had pocket 10s. loser leads out with a bet, winner raises 10s guy all in, and 10s guy calls, thinking winner missed the flop. game over. 8/11/2006 2:14:42 PM |
MacTuckIzzle Suspended 1614 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, this makes no sense, its not a fucking bluff.
Quote : | "LAS VEGAS -- Former Hollywood talent agent Jamie Gold pulled off his best acting job ever early Friday, bluffing his way to victory at the World Series of Poker and taking home the grand prize of $12 million.
More from ESPN Poker Read more about how the final table shook out in the wee hours of the morning in the ESPN Poker Club blog. Story • Best/worst of '06 | Poker index Gold, of Malibu, Calif., somehow convinced Paul Wasicka he had a weaker hand, getting him to push all his chips in the pot. The 36-year-old Gold screamed for joy to see Wasicka pocket 10s to his pair of queens.
It was the last bit of overacting for the former agent to the stars, who had bluffed and cajoled his way to the chip lead during the last four days of play.
"I knew that he was weak but he had a hand. And then I knew it was my chance," Gold said. "I went all in and then I just went into my act. I actually talked him into calling with the worst of it and that won the whole tournament." " |
Ah, I see, maybe they are saying he bluffed alot and thats what lead to him getting the victory. It could come across either way I guess.
[Edited on August 11, 2006 at 2:23 PM. Reason : .]8/11/2006 2:22:18 PM |
Nashattack All American 7022 Posts user info edit post |
I stayed up till wee hours of the morning watching and it was SICK how many times he was bluffing.. he showed a few and the crazy thing was he was table talking a TON and telling the truth a LOT.. especially to allen cunningham.. i cannot wait to see the hole cams and see what garbage he had.. he called a huge preflop raise with 46 off and hit a 6 on flop and smooth called the flop and turn then bet big on river ace and took it from a dude with pocket kings 8/11/2006 3:19:53 PM |
Nashattack All American 7022 Posts user info edit post |
with a flop being J46, cunningham bet, he called
turn 3, cunningham checked, gold went all in and they talked for a good 10 minutes and gold kept saying he had 25 and cunningham believed him and folded Jx.. thats the one i wanna see 8/11/2006 3:23:16 PM |
MacTuckIzzle Suspended 1614 Posts user info edit post |
He is used to bullshitting and talking good game. He used to be, or still is a pretty big agent in LA and is the character that Ari Gold is based on in Entourage. 8/11/2006 4:05:25 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
when does this show on tv? 8/11/2006 5:43:48 PM |
MacTuckIzzle Suspended 1614 Posts user info edit post |
Well they are going to have to run through like 10 episodes of the main event, they are showing them now two at a time, and there are still the circuit events to go through, and they've got to edit all the main event footage. I'd say mid to late September the final table will be on TV. 8/11/2006 7:51:04 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
bttt 9/18/2006 6:23:10 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
OMG I PICK JAMIE GOLD OMG 9/18/2006 8:53:52 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
played against him online a few times on bodog
he won.
[Edited on September 19, 2006 at 1:49 AM. Reason : d] 9/19/2006 1:48:57 AM |