It might be booooooring to a lot of folks. Hell, 10 years ago, not drinking was BOOOOORRRRIIIINNG.

Things change. I've done my fair share. Hell, my therapist says I did about seven other people's fair shares too.

I just enjoy being able to think clearly now. I don't get in nearly the trouble.

8/4/2006 8:55:43 PM

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"PLUS a cup or two of coffee can turn you into a more annoying person than can a cocktail or two"

8/4/2006 8:56:50 PM

Actually, quagmire, I stated Never date anyone that won't try something at least once. To which your dumbass, like every other motherfucking maggot on this board would, replied with completely extreme scenarios which obviously isn't what I meant but nonetheless a completely literally (ie: inability to extrapolate meaning from text) interpretation of what I wrote.

When you say I don't know how to defend myself it would be nice if you stated what position I was defending.

8/4/2006 9:03:33 PM

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"isn't what I meant"

then say what you mean instead of sounding like a prick...if what you meant to say "never date anyone that won't try something that i think is something they should try", then say it...because what you're actually saying is that your subjective viewpoint doesn't match their subjective viewpoint and because of that you don't think they're good enough...judging by your ass-talking, i would imagine that they're probably better off without you anyway

8/4/2006 9:07:17 PM

I respect anyones decision not to drink as long as its not on a moral "omg drinking is so wrong, and you are teh evil" platform. Many people who have alcoholism in their families abstain for good reason, people who have had problems with alcohol in the past stop drinking for good reason.

8/4/2006 9:08:20 PM

I think what any rational person can understand is that you're trying to say:

"Never date anyone that won't try something at least once that you would try"

Now, I don't know much about quagmire02 -- maybe he really likes getting AIDS from six-year-olds during homosexual orgies -- maybe he doesn't, but if he's into that, I'd imagine he'd want a partner who would at least try it.

Don't let me judge you or anything here, but I have to say if when you think of "things you'd have a person try" include "sex with a six-year-old", I'd say you're at least a little fucked in the head, because that's pretty gross.

[Edited on August 4, 2006 at 9:09 PM. Reason : .]

8/4/2006 9:09:09 PM

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"Many people who have alcoholism in their families abstain for good reason, people who have had problems with alcohol in the past stop drinking for good reason."

agreed...if you're SandSanta, though, there's no excuse for not drinking

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"Now, I don't know much about quagmire02 -- maybe he really likes getting AIDS from six-year-olds during homosexual orgies -- maybe he doesn't, but if he's into that, I'd imagine he'd want a partner who would at least try it. Don't let me judge you or anything here, but I have to say if when you think of "things you'd have a person try" include "sex with a six-year-old", I'd say you're at least a little fucked in the head, because that's pretty gross."

i'm pretty sure i never said i did those things...if you're confused, check out the first page for the context of those examples

[Edited on August 4, 2006 at 9:11 PM. Reason : .]

8/4/2006 9:09:33 PM

this thread sucks now that you all are being dbags

8/4/2006 9:11:44 PM

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"i'm pretty sure i never said i did those things"

I'm pretty sure you never said you didn't, either.

Also, the more you continue to miss the point, the more I'm inclined to believe you fuck schoolboys.

Just saying.

[Edited on August 4, 2006 at 9:13 PM. Reason : .]

8/4/2006 9:13:17 PM

i'm not missing the point whatsoever...SandSanta's mastery of the english language is minimal at best...i agree that he PROBABLY meant

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"Never date anyone that won't try something at least once that you would try"

but that is NOT what he wrote...i guess i could spend all my time assuming that people mean differently than what they post, but that's pretty pointless

8/4/2006 9:15:11 PM

So instead of assuming people mean differently, you're going to assume they mean exactly what they say and go on a tirade about it because he left off a clause that should be common sense to anyone with half a brain?

You've got some interesting priorities.

[Edited on August 4, 2006 at 9:16 PM. Reason : .]

8/4/2006 9:16:06 PM

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"So instead of assuming people mean differently, you're going to assume they mean exactly what they say"

correct...do you understand now? or do YOU continue to miss the point?

8/4/2006 9:17:41 PM

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"context"

If you're going to try and use it as an excuse for fucking little boys, I'm going to try and use it to get you read a full sentence.

8/4/2006 9:18:55 PM

the rest of your sentence was not valid...it is your assertion that you should ASSUME that everyone understands what you mean, regardless of what you actually SAY/WRITE

8/4/2006 9:20:22 PM

I just think it's dumb that you obviously realized what he meant to write, so instead of helping to clarify what we all realize he meant, you decided to be a douche and talk about boy fucking and then constantly go off about it rather than going

"Dude, don't you mean X?"

then agreeing with him like you should. You're quite the internet badass for nitpicking what someone has written though.

[Edited on August 4, 2006 at 9:24 PM. Reason : .]

8/4/2006 9:24:22 PM

i'm obviously the douche because i'm the one saying that if someone doesn't like everything you like, they're automatically not worth your time...oh wait, i didn't say that

if it bothers you that i hold people to what they say, then i suppose you'll just have get over it...i'll not apologize for expecting people to speak english WELL

8/4/2006 9:27:45 PM

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"I would kill to find a girl to go out with that doesn't drink but ISN'T: 1. The size of the Titanic. I mean I'm only the size of, say, a Sherman Tank. 2. Ugly enough to make a freight train take a dirt road. Personality is a HUGE part of the equation, but, hey, I ain't gonna lie. Looks count too. 3. A religious zealot. Sounds like another would-be alcoholic that's picked just another vice to hold onto. 4. A huge pothead. Lucidity is the goal here. Not alternative ways to reach the same buzz goal. 5. Dumb as a rock. 'nuff said on that one. Of course, the dumb ones are usually the ones that drink like a fish."

Hi.

Actually, I don't know that I qualify for the "doesn't drink" category, but I would classify my drinking as very seldom - rare. And if I do drink (average 1-2 times/month), it's only one if I'm out somewhere, maybe two if I'm at home. I could think of tons of underlying reasons why, but what it ultimately boils down to is that it's just not something I really like. That doesn't mean I don't go out to bars, tailgate, or hang out with people who do drink - I do all those things.

As far as alternatives, did this girl say she didn't like going out/the bar scene? Sure it might not be a good first date since it's not really a common interest, but that doesn't mean she's never going to go. I would suggest the art museum (if it's not too hot then the greenway), exploris, a casual lunch spot, tapas, bowling, book store, AA5/Downtown Live, Bull's Game, Regency Park...

Good luck dude.

8/4/2006 9:29:50 PM

I'm exiting this thread, but before I do let me give a run down how this would have played out if I stayed:

First off, I'd point out that anyone with any amount of intelligence (maybe even you) knows exactly what I meant with what I said. If you don't, thats really not my fault. If you don't have the ability to interpret anything outside of its strict literally meaning, then I'm truely sorry as you've stared in stone faced rage at any bit of satire you've read, ever.

Secondly, Stein and I would continue to hammer you on the basic premise that you're either at a TreeTwistah/Lokken level of stupidity, or you're a piss poor troll and we'd end up making you trip over your own words at the end of which you'd either say something so rediculously stupid that a response was not necessary or you'd play the troll card.

Now scamper off and run your e-game , like you usually do, on whatever remotely female text you see on this website.

8/4/2006 9:30:34 PM

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"i'll not apologize for expecting people to speak english WELL"

HERE COMES MY quagmire02-TYPE NITPICK

Who the fuck was speaking? I didn't hear anyone say any words.

8/4/2006 9:31:55 PM

okay, i'll interpret for giggles:

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"I'm exiting this thread, but before I do let me give a run down how this would have played out if I stayed:"

i'm leaving because i've come to realize that i messed up

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"First off, I'd point out that anyone with any amount of intelligence (maybe even you) knows exactly what I meant with what I said. If you don't, thats really not my fault. If you don't have the ability to interpret anything outside of its strict literally meaning, then I'm truely sorry as you've stared in stone faced rage at any bit of satire you've read, ever."

everyone should know exactly what i mean because i know exactly what i mean...can't the rest of you read minds, too? well, if you can't, it's obviously YOUR fault that you don't know what i mean...it certainly can't be MY fault that i didn't explain myself clearly

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"Secondly, Stein and I would continue to hammer you on the basic premise that you're either at a TreeTwistah/Lokken level of stupidity, or you're a piss poor troll and we'd end up making you trip over your own words at the end of which you'd either say something so rediculously stupid that a response was not necessary or you'd play the troll card."

you're stupid! no, YOU'RE stupid! wait, where were we? okay...you don't agree with me, so you must be a troll...it's the only LOGICAL explanation for why you're not kissing my ass

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"Now scamper off and run your e-game , like you usually do, on whatever remotely female text you see on this website."

i'm going to assume you "e-game" because...well...that's the best insult i can come up with on such short notice

8/4/2006 9:37:10 PM

quagmire, you're really stupid

8/4/2006 9:40:18 PM

haha...coming from you, i'm not too worried about it

8/4/2006 9:41:57 PM

good

never let that self-esteem go away

8/4/2006 9:46:51 PM

8/4/2006 9:47:24 PM

i stopped reading the thread after a few posts

but

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""Never date anyone that won't try something at least once""

Wouldn't you rather date someone who stands by their convictions? If she's hell bent on not drinking, that doesn't mean she hasn't before. It just means that she chooses not to. I think that kind of decision is one that you need to respect if pursuing a relationship or even friendship with a person.

8/4/2006 11:10:57 PM

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"Secondly, Stein and I would continue to hammer you on the basic premise that you're either at a TreeTwistah/Lokken level of stupidity"

8/4/2006 11:19:11 PM

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"i like coffee and all, but hanging out in coffee houses is fucking lame people are usually on their laptops on myspace OR they have nerdy pretentious conversations which you can hear from across the room it's like a winebar but worse since you can't get drunk and the people are uglier"

LOL!

8/5/2006 3:42:29 PM

i mean why don't you go to a hookah bar or a comic book store while you're at it

8/5/2006 4:14:33 PM

I don't drink, but that no way inhinges on my social life. I go to bars and parties with my friends and just get soda, it doesn't bother me in the least bit if everyone is hammered. Usually I don't mind being DD and everyone else likes it because they don't have to find a DD. You don't have to drink to have fun, but I would say that if you can't "tolerate" it, then it will make it difficult.

8/5/2006 5:43:11 PM

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"Never date anyone that won't try something at least once"

Crack, clam juice, receptive anal intercourse, blah blah blah YOU HYPOCRITE SHUT THE HELL UP.

Some chicks don't drink because of their meds, some people have non-HIV/AIDS autoimmune disorders and if I had either, I wouldn't be about to divulge this to a guy who's still getting to know me because it's none of his business. Yet.

8/5/2006 5:56:54 PM

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" Usually I don't mind being DD and everyone else likes it because they don't have to find a DD. "

i know, right

everyone loves the DD

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" don't drink, but that no way inhinges on my social life. I go to bars and parties with my friends and just get soda, it doesn't bother me in the least bit if everyone is hammered"

yep...i always show up to parties with my own bottle of powerade or whatever




i have my own reasons for not drinking (anymore), and my friends respect it.

8/5/2006 6:00:31 PM

Well minus the e-fight that took over half the thread, thanks for the suggestions people, especially begonias, I knew you were a keeper when I met you

The coffee shop thing, I think somebody mentioned the indie junk that gets associated with it, especially like at places like Cup o' Joes. At least in my experiences there, that holds true. Coffee shops just seem a little too trendy for me to go hang out, just my opinion. Kinda like something out of Friends. Moreover, while I could drink something besides coffee, I still won't be able to escape the fact that the whole place smells of coffee. When I said I hate the stuff, I also should have said that I don't particularly like the smell either. Not that I wouldn't date a coffee drinker or have the occassional meeting in Starbucks, but you get the picture.

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"Never date anyone that won't try something at least once"

While this got picked apart and analyzed by CSI:TWW, I'm a firm believer in what he said, applying it to things I wouldn't do. That's not to say I haven't been trying to do some ayahuasca while here in Brazil, I think altered-state of mind experiences are life experiences that are indeed worthwhile. But back on topic, I think most of the girls to which this thread would apply have tried alcohol. I know they don't like alcohol because, like I said, it's common for me to say to girls "We should get a drink sometime." Quick question for the females, do you consider it a bad thing when guys say this to you? I mean does it have connotations like "he probably drinks too much," "he just wants to get me drunk," or something of the like? Granted if a girl reads that far into my invitation I probably don't want to date her anyways, but I'm still curious

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"douchenozzel"

Gotta admit that I giggled on that one

8/5/2006 7:45:14 PM

begonias is sure to fuck you now

8/5/2006 8:08:57 PM

just don't get caught in the FRIEND ZONE

8/5/2006 8:16:21 PM

ew

no offense Ryan

8/5/2006 8:24:42 PM

begonias, which twwer are you dating these days?

8/5/2006 8:26:22 PM

sadly none

it's been a while

8/5/2006 8:28:22 PM

damn

wanna get some coffee the next time I am in Raleigh?

8/5/2006 8:29:30 PM

8/5/2006 10:00:09 PM

Casual lunch man especially if your talking about a girl from class, it's so easy to just be like "hey lets get lunch on hillsbourgh street." It's cheap, not too much like a serious date, and if you don't like the broad you can cut your losses easily without having to suffer through a coffee shop or some shit like that. If it works out you can set up a more formal date, and avoid the friend zone.

btw, Did this girl say she didn't drink, but hinted at doing something else. Hopefully, she didn't lie about drinking to avoid hanging out with you. I guess you will find out when you hopefully invite this broad to lunch.

[Edited on August 7, 2006 at 3:57 AM. Reason : .]

[Edited on August 7, 2006 at 3:58 AM. Reason : ..]

8/7/2006 3:34:32 AM

dont date chicks who dont drink

8/7/2006 10:48:19 AM

i think the world would be a better place without alcohol.

8/7/2006 11:27:00 AM