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TreeTwista10
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lay off the yayo

9/7/2006 1:05:10 PM

trikk311
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haha...that cartoon is the greatest thing i have ever seen....and the greatest part is...salis believes every word of it!!!

and salis....lets count...how many more self-fullfilling prophecies can you set up??

9/7/2006 1:07:03 PM

Mr. Joshua
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"1. Bush and our elected political "leaders" are puppets. The real power is held by the forces of international Zionism/Judaism operating behind the scenes. These hidden forces masterminded the 9/11 attacks, not Bush.

2. The "success" or "failure" of the war in Iraq must be viewed through the eyes of the power elite. Upon viewing it through their eyes, you can see that the war is going very well. The goal is not for a quick US victory. They would prefer a long, drawn-out conflict (meaning billions in profits for arms dealers and in loans to their banks), which results in the deaths of many thousands of U.S. soldiers and Iraqis. Their goal is to maximize the death and suffereing, and further....to make the U.S. look like the "bad guy" on the world scene (eg, Abu Graib, invading Iraq on lies about WMDs). Then they can bring in the United Nations to "save the day"....advancing the global government agenda."


I still await the day that you can prove any of that.

9/7/2006 3:21:52 PM

TreeTwista10
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does salisburyboy just stay up all night doing yay and listening to Coast to Coast AM?

9/7/2006 3:23:00 PM

trikk311
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hahaha...i love coast to coast

"...and then...just before we hit the fog....and light appeared...and they was straaange looking critters all over the place...then....all 'a sudden.....they was gone.."

9/7/2006 3:26:25 PM

Mr. Joshua
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Here are some videos of actual building implosions:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3734778582740389904&q=implosion

Hear the deafening explosions long before the building even moves?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6979955002470780153&q=implosion
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6209867556562706196&q=implosion
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5446838557512388694&q=implosion
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5360235832416833797&q=implosion

This is the same building. Notice the clearly visible explosions all over the building? Notice how the building collapse begins at the bottom instead of the top falling first?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5515424451823800690&q=implosion

Same features, different building. Loud explosions. Collapse begins at the bottom, not the top. I know that you love to point out the cloud of dust shot from the window during the collapse of the WTC, but the simple fact is that there is absolutely no need to set off additional explosions as the building is collapsing - momentum will do the job.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8719593880031165898&q=implosion

Heres the same thing in Raleigh, no less. There is no need to set off more charges during collapse. What you saw during the WTC collapse was air being forced out as the floors pancaked.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7000444892387259083&q=implosion

Heres a building in Las Vegas. Notice the many clearly visible sequenced explosions? Where were those when the WTC came down? One plume of dust coming out of a window as the building is collapsing is not evidence of a controlled demolition.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6449270076349123045&q=implosion

Heres another one. Notice the explosions all took place before the collapse, not during.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4451252877216031192&q=implosion

Heres a dorm in Minnesota. Loud and clearly visible sequenced explosions prior to collapse. There are even plumes of dust ejected from the windows during collapse, just like the WTC. Notice that you don't hear any explosion accompanying the dust plumes.

There are a lot more videos out there if you want to see more. All of those buildings were significantly smaller than the World Trade Center, yet still produced deafening explosions. How many tons of explosives would have been needed to bring down two 110 story skyscrapers? Why doesn't a single video of the event include the sound of sequenced explosions?

Look at the explosions themselves. They all happened before the collapse. In every single video you see and hear charges going off followed by a dead silence, and then the collapse of the building. Ever single piece of evidence that you bring to the table lacks this. Instead you point to puffs of dust near windows as the prrof of explosives. Find me a video that features explosives being set off underneath a collapsing structure as it falls.

All of these building begin collapse at the bottom. The tops of the WTC (above the point of impact) fell into the rest of the builing with sufficient momentum to bring the towers down. Find me a video of this technique being used to collapse a high rise.

FEEL FREE TO ADDRESS THIS

Its funny, I was actually watching the History Channel special on the survivors in stairwell B who were actually inside the WTC when it collapsed. They mentioned the "bang-bang-bang-bang" sounds and stated matter of factly that it was the sound of floors collapsing onto one another. They mentioned that the building was swaying violently the entire time that they were in it - even to the point where they had trouble standing up. I really wish that you would use genuine scientific analysis instead of just using the words of panic stricken survivors and reporters taken out of context.

I would also love to see you address some of the "logical fallacies" that you claim http://www.debunking911.com/ is full of. Right now you're just dismissing it because you can't refute any of its points.

9/7/2006 3:32:48 PM

brianj320
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"posted here is an animated gif of the video provided by prisonplanet.com:



taking the gif frame by frame:













as anyone with an objective mind can see, the shot that salisburyboy so often uses in his arguement:



is in fact taken from the end of the video..NOT the beginning. he has demonstrated a ploy to use this as "evidence" that this particular still is taken at the beginning of the clip causing the "controlled demolition." this is a blatant use of resources to meet one's personal agenda and beliefs disregarding all credible and logical explanations. those "squibs" are the result of the building collapsing, NOT the cause.

this is a new low and now this is real evidence of the lengths he goes to to convince others and himself of this grand conspiracy of the US government.
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"searching sites specific to the demolition trade does not support this meaning of 'pull'. The following Google searches of the two best known controlled demolition sites in October of 2003 did not return any results indicating that pulling and demolition are synonymous.

* site:controlled-demolition.com pull
* site:implosionworld.com pull

Searching Google with the query demolition pull and filtering out sites referring to the Silverstein pull-it remark returns only one result in about 10 pages of results that uses 'pull' to mean demolish: "City staff have contacted the property owner by phone to request that he obtain a demolition permit and pull down and demolish the building""

9/7/2006 4:04:13 PM

Mr. Joshua
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"Video is said to show bin Laden prepping for 9/11 attacks

For the first time, a video has been released showing al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden meeting with suspected terrorist Ramzi Binalshibh, purportedly as they prepare for the September 11, 2001 attacks, according to Al-Jazeera, which aired the tape Thursday.

Binalshibh is a Yemeni who allegedly admitted a role in planning the attacks. He was among 14 al Qaeda operatives that President Bush on Wednesday said had been transferred to the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

The 14 men were transferred from CIA custody so they can face military hearings if Congress approves the tribunals, the president said. (Watch suspected terrorists practice martial arts -- 2:44)

It is alleged that Binalshibh intended to be one of the September 11 hijackers but was unable to get a visa to enter the United States despite several attempts.

In one of the segments of the tape, bin Laden tells his compatriots that the news from "the brothers who went out for martyrdom operations ... is delightful."

"And I strongly advise you to increase your prayers for them and beseech Allah the Exalted in your prayer to grant them success, make firm their foothold and strengthen their hearts," the al Qaeda leaders says.

The video aired four days before the fifth anniversary of the attacks that killed almost 3,000 people in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania.

CNN was unable to independently verify whether the video, made by al Qaeda's production company, Al Sahab, was made in 2001. But two of the men seen on it -- Hamza Alghamdi and Wail Alshehri -- were hijackers who died in the suicide missions.

Alghamdi was aboard United Airlines Flight 175, which hit the South Tower of the World Trade Center; Alshehri was aboard American Airlines Flight 11, which crashed into the North Tower.

Al Qaeda military commander Mohammed Atef, also known as Abu Hafs al-Masri, also is on the tape. He was killed in Afghanistan in 2001 in a U.S. missile strike.

Many of the faces in the video are pixelated to hide the men's identities.

The men are seen in training or in scenes from their daily lives.

"If struggle and jihad is not mandatory now, then when is it mandatory? The destination from which Prophet Mohammed was sent to Heaven is being transgressed every night and day," says one militant, Wael al Shehry, according to Al-Jazeera.

"When is it time to help Muslims who are under fire in Chechnya? And what about Kashmir and the Philippines? Blood continues to flow. When will it be?" he asks.

Yasser abu Hilala, an Al-Jazeera bureau chief who did the voice-over for the report, said the video is more than an hour long and uses archive footage from Western television networks."


http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/09/07/alqaeda.911/index.html

Now lets all watch as salisburyboy calls this propaganda put out by zionists concerned by how awesome the 9/11 truth movement is (and the fact that 0.01% of college professors agree)!

9/7/2006 7:25:24 PM

e30ncsu
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mr joshua, stop trolling

lollers

9/7/2006 7:30:48 PM

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