I AM THE MAN

9/10/2006 11:42:22 AM

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"If everyone supported the team maybe for just one came, that'd give them enough to win. Also, Marcus put up over 200 yards today on only 16 completions."

supporting the team doesn't mean they have to agree with everything we do. These people are obviously in support of the team or they wouldn't care enough to say anything. Just sitting back and watching while we have coaches that continue to promise better things and don't deliver and watching them squander our talent isn't support. Granted noone should booo the team at games but disliking where one of our coaches is taking our program is not being a bad fan...its showing that we care. GO PACK!

9/10/2006 11:46:38 AM

Have you guys ever heard Chuck speak? Let's be serious...

Points to support Chuck:
He got us to a bowl last year--this point should be null, getting to a bowl in NCAA football is like making the NIT, 6 wins you make one, it means crap. On top of that, there should be no excuse for having the season we did last year with as much talent as we had.

Heck the only good seasons Amato has had here is back when the team was stacked with young talent being lead by an NFL quarterback. Something has to hit the fan eventually...Are we a *great* team this year? No, but we should be beating Akron period.

9/10/2006 11:47:21 AM

9/10/2006 11:49:46 AM

ok I am going to make a serious post here


In this post game interview, some reporter questions him about the excessive celebration call, and Chuck replies to it by saying "o the kids are so excited and I can't hodl each and everyone of them back...they know they were wrong...but they were so excited! how could i hold them all back!?" I mean are you fucking kidding me? Your authority and their respect for your leadership should hold them back...you know...Discipline

thats the type of shit that is absolutely inexcusable, in game, onf the field penalties are one thing, but that bullshit complete lack of control will never be fixed during Chuck's tenure, I'll promise you that and we'll be flushed further and further down the ACC shitter each season until we are fertilizing Duke's front lawn

9/10/2006 12:13:32 PM

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"wish the news media would quit spreading false rumours as if they were facts."

You mean we actually won yesterday? Damn media!

What's wrong with saying he is on the hot seat? As far as the fanbase goes, he is.

9/10/2006 12:24:20 PM

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"give him time, we got to give him at least the amount of time Herb got."

Herb was actually still improving at this point in his career.

Amato is on a downward spiral into becoming a worse coach than O'Cain.

9/10/2006 1:16:14 PM

^^agreed. We were making the dance in basketball. Now we're making bowls equivelent to the NIT if that and playing close games or lossing to teams like App and Akron.

9/10/2006 2:35:09 PM

Yes, Marcus played a HELL OF ALOT BETTER in game two of the season..there were too many dropped passes, an too many fumbles...and the penalties NCSU..WTF!!??

9/10/2006 2:37:24 PM

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"Yes, Marcus played a HELL OF ALOT BETTER in game two of the season..there were too many dropped passes, an too many fumbles...and the penalties NCSU..WTF!!??"

Uh... he played a decent 10 minutes. Don't confuse that with an entire game.

It sucks that our receivers dropped passes early, but god knows I'd be surprised as shit if Marcus Stone threw me a pass I could actually catch.

9/10/2006 2:46:40 PM

I support Chuck

[Edited on September 10, 2006 at 2:54 PM. Reason : listening to that interview, you can really tell how disappointed he is]

9/10/2006 2:48:12 PM

I support chuck and all the players that are trying to win games for this school.

They deserve better than us.

9/10/2006 3:00:35 PM

^^or you can really sense how aloof he is...one or the other

9/10/2006 3:01:34 PM

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"They deserve better than us."

truth right there

9/10/2006 3:10:29 PM

I don't know what I want anymore?

9/10/2006 3:50:41 PM

9/10/2006 4:46:41 PM

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"I support chuck and all the players that are trying to win games for this school. They deserve better than us. "

9/12/2006 10:21:18 PM

they don't really deserve anything

they are all on academic scholarships and are expected to perform since they're getting a free college education

9/12/2006 10:23:09 PM

look down the road at WF, UNC, ECU, and Duke.

we have been better than those teams consistently since Chuck has been here.

we have won 4 out of 5 bowl games

we have won big games against FSU, Notre Dame, GT, Maryland, and Clemson

9/12/2006 10:25:19 PM

typical authoritarian submissive thinking

9/12/2006 10:26:15 PM

I support chuck and all the players that are trying to win games for this school.

They deserve better than us chuck.

9/12/2006 10:27:50 PM

we are better now than we were under the previous coach, and thats a fact!

9/12/2006 10:28:01 PM

How is that a fact? Their conference records are exactly the same. Yes, O'Cain's OOC record was worse, but he also didn't fill his OOC slate with cupcakes like UMass, Richmond, App State, Akron (whooops) every year. We consistently played 1-2 solid Top 25 teams each year (Cuse in the McNabb years, Texas, Louisville). Ask yourself this: are we really better off with Amato, esp. post Rivers? We've dumped millions upon millions into fixing up C-F, the talent is light years beyond where it was, and yet we still get a 23-25 ACC record, the same thing O'Cain got without all these fixins.

Amato can still save this season if he can find a QB worth a damn and get the D to be able to handle a team that goes straight at them (the D stuffed Akron's spread plays, but couldn't hold them when they went straight at the guys with vertical runs/routes), but for the money and expectations Chuck himself has raised, it's time to start producing consistent 8 win teams (at least). It's ludicrous that we would be in "rebuilding" mode after a 7-5, 3-5 ACC record. 7-5, 3-5 should be rebuilding.

9/12/2006 11:05:47 PM

^^ NO we actually aren't.

Read this^.

MOC was 6-5, 7-5, and 6-6 in his last 3 years and was fired just about only because he couldn't beat UNC, who was the 2nd best team in the ACC back them.

9/12/2006 11:36:13 PM

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"look down the road at WF, UNC, ECU, and Duke. we have been better than those teams consistently since Chuck has been here. we have won 4 out of 5 bowl games we have won big games against FSU, Notre Dame, GT, Maryland, and Clemson "

we have been better than those teams consistentlysince chuck has been here when philip rivers was here

we have won 4 out of 5 bowl games philip rivers won 3 out of 4 bowl games

we have philip rivers has won big games against FSU, Notre Dane, GT, Maryland, and Clemson

9/13/2006 12:09:20 AM

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"is anybody really surprised that the big girl still backs this sinking ship that is chuck amato? i mean, ITS THA BIG GIRL. motherfucker has no real connection with reality "

Well, at least he's consistent with following lost causes.

9/13/2006 9:56:04 AM

amato is 23-25 in the acc, career.

he is 46-28 overall.

amato beats up on crappy ooc teams and can't win one out of two acc games.

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"MOC was 6-5, 7-5, and 6-6 in his last 3 years and was fired just about only because he couldn't beat UNC, who was the 2nd best team in the ACC back them."

this is the exact same road we are on w/ chuck, so why all of the leniency for him? and if o'cain was fired for right around 500 records and not being able to beat UNC (and like an earlier poster said, they were much better back then under Mack) then why do we keep giving chuck so much rope????

9/13/2006 10:20:38 AM

oh yes, and Phillip rivers also played defense, and Phillip rivers blocked all those kicks in recent years, and Phillip rivers ran those routes, and blocked for TA and of course, RAN the ball too....

Yes PR was crucial to amato's early success, however he wasn't the only factor. The program has improved, and if you only look at the win/loss column you are missing a lot. Recruitment has vastly improved, facilities are amazing, and there is lots of excitement for a program that used to be a distraction to tailgating during the 90's.

9/13/2006 10:24:12 AM

facilities: yes

recruiting: yes, but that is obviously not translating into wins right now

excitement: i would say that the excitement was gone down quite a bit in the last 2 years and 2 games

9/13/2006 10:27:15 AM

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"Quote : "MOC was 6-5, 7-5, and 6-6 in his last 3 years and was fired just about only because he couldn't beat UNC, who was the 2nd best team in the ACC back them." this is the exact same road we are on w/ chuck, so why all of the leniency for him? and if o'cain was fired for right around 500 records and not being able to beat UNC (and like an earlier poster said, they were much better back then under Mack) then why do we keep giving chuck so much rope????"

Ok first off, the acc was totally different without expansion. MOC had duke, wake, UVA, and UNC to beat up on which he was mildly successful at. CTC has VT, Clemson, FSU and wake. We never play duke anymore, and even the previous ACC teams have improved, just look at Clemson, GT and Maryland.

In the beginning we were ahead of those old school acc teams, now we are behind. Yeah it sucks, but we are improving, we are on the right track. One big loss nor some mediocre years lately are reason to want to fire him. granted, if this season sucks and we lose to an vastly inferior UNC, I will be changing my tune.... however, for now, I think a coaching change is a bit premature.

9/13/2006 10:30:41 AM

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"and if you only look at the win/loss column you are missing a lot."

no......you arent. this is the only thing that counts. i keep hearing about these great facilities...........maybe they should play instead so that we can beat akron ! ! !

9/13/2006 10:34:19 AM

had unc and virginia to beat up on?

unc and virginia were prob. the second and third best teams in the acc for the majority of the ocain era. unc was always really good under brown and virginia under welsh (they were one of the first teams to beat fsu in the acc). they did not get to beat up on those teams. they were better than us most of the time. (also he was fired for his ability not to beat UNC, so he wasn't mildly successful at that).

dude, the point most of the people have that are not in support of chuck anymore is that it appears we are regressing. this is not the sign of a program on the right track. neither is not being able to keep a staff together.

i am not an advocate of firing chuck at this point either. but i do believe that he needs to start producing results. the only point i am trying to make is that so many people hated o'cain but the past 2 years, well really all amato's years except for one, have been similar to ocain's and yet still so many people don't want to criticize him at all. sure, recruitng and facilites have improved, but it is up to this point, not leading to many more quality wins.

and is this even possible:

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"In the beginning we were ahead of those old school acc teams, now we are behind. Yeah it sucks, but we are improving, "

[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 10:45 AM. Reason : .]

9/13/2006 10:37:13 AM

maybe rick barnes could coach the team

9/13/2006 10:40:53 AM

Brown left UNC in what 97 and his last 3 years were his best, under ocain we had a 6 or 7 year lossing streak to them.
UVA was the first to beat FSU yes, and welsh was a good coach, however, we had a decent record against them.

Agreed, results, including not lossing to akron is what everyone wants, however I still think amato is different than O'Cain. I'm not sure I can fully expaling why I think so but I do.

and for my above quote, I meant we were ahead of the curve for teams like clemson and maryland, but those teams have surpassed us. we are improving in that our program has improved under CTC.

For those who don't support CTC, who is your REALISTIC replacement? Who is going to want to replace an Alumni coach? I haven't heard a single reasonable replacement yet....

9/13/2006 10:51:37 AM

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"amato is 23-25 in the acc, career. "

This is the most important point made in the entire thread.

9/13/2006 10:57:57 AM

yeah... Ocain would beat texas and then lose to baylor!!!!

I still support Chuck, but I want to see some improvements


BTW... how many of you people bitching donate to the WPC?

9/13/2006 11:13:55 AM

Uh, I give to the WPC and am NOT bitching.

Go Pack!

9/13/2006 11:21:20 AM

To Earl and Tha Big Girl:



Stop making worthless threads about your mindless support of a shitty team. Our team sucks and Chuck is not a good coach. I hope we do better, but until we do stop making these threads.

9/13/2006 12:02:46 PM

I still support Chuck, but I want to see some improvements

9/17/2006 11:40:39 AM

9/17/2006 12:45:00 PM

[Edited on September 17, 2006 at 1:10 PM. Reason : .]

9/17/2006 1:09:40 PM

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"I still support Chuck, but I want to see some improvements"

It took this game for you to "want to see some improvements"???

Idiot.

9/17/2006 1:10:51 PM

Until contract ends do us part,
I support Chuck Amato.

Hopefully he can still turn things around, but I will admit I am a bit pessimistic about the situation.

But wouldnt it be just dandy if we started winning again?


^^^the last line is the best

[Edited on September 17, 2006 at 1:49 PM. Reason : ^^^]

9/17/2006 1:40:23 PM

THE WOLFPACK NATION is still behind Coach Amato

9/24/2006 1:35:58 AM

....until next time we lose.

9/24/2006 2:35:55 AM

one or two big wins, just cause he wins one game doesnt make up for all the shitty games(alot more of those).....reminds me of another former head coach at State.

[Edited on September 24, 2006 at 2:56 AM. Reason : w]

9/24/2006 2:53:23 AM

good job lastnight Chuck, way to work

9/24/2006 12:17:47 PM

yea way to go chuck...good job teasing us then completely the always reliable hail mary...awesome coaching

9/24/2006 12:19:27 PM

thanks, just when there seemed to be a lull in FAGGOTRY in here, you have brought it back up to typical UNC levels

[Edited on September 24, 2006 at 12:23 PM. Reason : good job]

9/24/2006 12:22:44 PM

bttt

hell of a win Chuck, we thank you!

10/6/2006 4:30:16 PM