maybe you're just a sad loser who noboy invites to their parties

9/13/2006 4:01:02 PM

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"because honestly, EVERYONE sypathizes with you dude "

no i dont.

9/13/2006 4:01:11 PM

yes you do

you just don't know it

9/13/2006 4:01:25 PM

did i mention i have a large penis?

9/13/2006 4:02:06 PM

My brother graduated in NE in the Spring and my sister is there now...Maria. Don't know if you have seen her.

My best advice is what is done is done. I would take the advice from above and say that you are going on a family vacation. I can't tell you how many I missed out on cause I was in school and now I am sad that I did because my brothers and sisters grew up and I wasn't there.

9/13/2006 4:02:06 PM

why would your family schedule a family vacation during the time they know you are in school?

9/13/2006 4:04:56 PM

The reasoning with mine was that all of the school breaks didn't line up and so they went with the most family that could come. They would buy me a ticket for the weekend that was close but I was always like I have too much stuff to do. I am an idiot.

9/13/2006 4:07:33 PM

ask to take the test anyway, eventhough you know it won't count. I did that once, and aced it....it still didn't count, but @ the end of the semester he let me do an extra project to make it up.(I think b/c I demonstrated that I really knew the material and was serious about the class despite missing the exam).

If I remember correctly, he allowed several students to do the same, provided they scored well on the exam that didn't count. He made me sweat it out though, not telling me that I could do the extra work for make-up until only a few weeks remained in the semester.

It probably won't work out, but it's worth a try.

9/13/2006 4:08:48 PM

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"this professor is young and is obviously a by-the-book kinda guy"

OMFG SOMEBODY WANTS TO FOLLOW THE RULES! THIS IS A FUCKING OUTRAGE! HOW DARE THE RULES CONFLICT WITH WHAT I WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111!!!!

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"it's a personal conflict, not really a technical one."

There is no conflict. Going to Vegas isn't an excused absence.

You should never expect someone to bend the rules for you.

9/13/2006 4:11:08 PM

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" sometimes shit happens and it's okay to let some things slide."

seriously though. having a trip planned by you or someone you know during a test time is not "shit happening." shit happening is you getting in a car accident or the bus blowing up on the way to the exam.


it might not seem like a big deal to you, but why should it be a big deal for him to expect students to have their scheduled class periods available for a test?

[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 4:14 PM. Reason : .]

9/13/2006 4:11:56 PM

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"my family scheduled the trip, it's my birthday present...i had no say in it"

Thank your family for the mess you are in. Generally, your parents shouldn't be intefering this much with your personal life at this point (without first talking to you), but that's another matter. Fact is, you took a gamble thinking everything would work out and it didn't.

Live up to the consequences, go on the trip and bust your ass for the remainder of the semester in that class. Nobody is generally going to care if you got a C instead of a B in a course. Will also show instructor you DID have a willingness to do well in the course but his/her lack of flexibility caused your poor performance.

9/13/2006 4:11:57 PM

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"this really shows how much people are pricks on this website because honestly, EVERYONE sypathizes with you dude i guess they are or feel like they need to be total dickholes"

No kidding. Any of you toolbags who say "he is right, you are wrong" should be smacked in the face. Ever gone 5 over & got pulled? Sure, the cop SHOULD give you a ticket, but you hope to high heavens he sympathizes with you and lets it go. Nobody wants to get dicked over, and that professor is doing just that.

I see no reason that professor shouldn't bend for you, he'd want exactly the same thing for himself if he were in the same situation.

I'd ask another professor or something, I wouldn't get my parents involved, but try to be very mature, stern, and make him see the "treat others like you wanna be treated" aspect to all this if possible.

9/13/2006 4:12:47 PM

what's done is done. take your trip and take the 0.

but it's pretty irresponsible for your family to schedule a trip like that during the school year if it didn't coincide with official time-off from school. they could have scheduled it during fall break, thanksgiving, christmas, spring break or even next summer. it would have been just as meaningful and just as fun while not interfering with school.

9/13/2006 4:13:55 PM

Ive taken lots of trips, flights, ect DURING the semester.

I DID THIS CRAZY THING. I checked the acedemic calander, and scheduled them over the breaks or weekends.

Youve been ignorant on two counts;

1. You didnt know the university policy
2. You didnt think to reschedule since it was in the middle of a semester

This is your fault. Take the hit to your grade or dont go. This is simple. You cant argue your way out.

9/13/2006 4:14:28 PM

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"Live up to the consequences, go on the trip and bust your ass for the remainder of the semester in that class. Nobody is generally going to care if you got a C instead of a B in a course. Will also show instructor you DID have a willingness to do well in the course but his/her lack of flexibility caused your poor performance."

your best option if you want to try to have your cake and eat it too.

[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 4:16 PM. Reason : and ask to take the exam anyway]

9/13/2006 4:15:05 PM

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"Will also show instructor you DID have a willingness to do well in the course but his/her lack of flexibility caused your poor performance."

too bad you just look like you're making excuses if you tell anyone that, particularly a company.

9/13/2006 4:15:23 PM

i agree with Josh#####s







i think i am going to be sick

9/13/2006 4:15:34 PM

thats what they all say.

9/13/2006 4:16:14 PM

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" but it's pretty irresponsible for your family to schedule a trip like that during the school year if it didn't coincide with official time-off from school. they could have scheduled it during fall break, thanksgiving, christmas, spring break or even next summer. it would have been just as meaningful and just as fun while not interfering with school."

I cannot believe the crap you people spew. Sure, every family has the means and the money to fly and book hotels during the most popular travel times of the year.

Put yourself in this guy's shoes and see if you'd love to be dicked over.

9/13/2006 4:16:30 PM

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"No kidding. Any of you toolbags who say "he is right, you are wrong" should be smacked in the face. Ever gone 5 over & got pulled? "

blah blah blah

no, ive never gone 5 over and got pulled, but if i did, and i got a ticket, then thats my own damn fault for breaking the law. im certainly not going to complain about it and act like its not my fault when it is. i have no sympathy for people who expect the world to cater to them....im not saying that paerabol is like that, but in this circumstance he is....he even said it himeself: " i want to have my cake and eat it to".

does his circumstance suck? yes, of course it does...but it could have been avoided.

take responsibility for your god damn actions. thats all i ask. the world would be a much better place to live if more people did.



[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 4:18 PM. Reason : d]

9/13/2006 4:17:07 PM

^^ he's not getting dicked over.

9/13/2006 4:18:40 PM

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"I am turning 21 this coming weekend and will be leaving for Vegas on Saturday (16th) "

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"every family has the means and the money to fly and book hotels during the most popular travel times of the year"

They didnt pick this time becuase it was cheap. READ. There are plenty of other very cheap times to have a vaction. Like maybe early december after your exams...

9/13/2006 4:18:48 PM

That's complete rubbish sober. This isn't rescheduling a wedding, it's one test. It's nothing in the scheme of things. It wouldn't harm that professor one single bit to bend it for him. I'll bet the farm somebody bent over backwards so that professor could get where he is today.

9/13/2006 4:19:29 PM

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"Will also show instructor you DID have a willingness to do well in the course but his/her lack of flexibilityyour inability to plan caused your poor performance."

^^^^^ Someone refusing to ignore a rule is not dicking you over.

[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 4:20 PM. Reason : ^^^^^]

9/13/2006 4:20:12 PM

^^well, atleast we know you are one of those "i dont want to take responsiblity for my actions" type people.



[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 4:20 PM. Reason : df]

9/13/2006 4:20:31 PM

You guys are so cool acting all hardup. It's so cool, really.

9/13/2006 4:20:54 PM

FUCK YOUR RULES, ILL DO WHAT I WANT!!!

9/13/2006 4:21:33 PM

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"I'll bet the farm somebody bent over backwards so that professor could get where he is today."

Well aren't you the arrogant ass, assuming that people can't achieve on their own.

9/13/2006 4:22:32 PM

You don't know the first thing about me sober. I take full responsibility for my actions and I've done alright so far.

I'm one of those "the world would be a much cooler place if people weren't dicks" people. If this put the professor in a very bad situation, that's one thing. But it doesn't, and it comes down to the professor making a personal choice not to help someone.

9/13/2006 4:22:32 PM

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"It wouldn't harm that professor one single bit to bend it for him."

It does, thats the point. It also harms the rest of the students; if we could all just reschedule exams becuase of our vacations, our school would have one shit-ass reputatin.

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"His reply was "well, if you keep up with the bonus work"

and sounds to me like he was willing to work with you.

[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 4:23 PM. Reason : 34]

9/13/2006 4:22:40 PM

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"assuming that people can't achieve on their own. "

Where would you be today if you parents dropped you off in a garbage can at age 2 today? Don't act like you weren't ever helped; that's about as ignorant as one can get.

9/13/2006 4:23:25 PM

so because he has rules, he's a dick? give me a break.

isnt it just as much of a dick move to expect someone to bend the rules for them?



[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 4:24 PM. Reason : so]

9/13/2006 4:23:35 PM

he's created the situation himself.....agreed, but he can't be blamed for attempting to go on the trip and still take the test.

Not at least trying to would be stupid. Who knows, they might come up with a solution that wouldn't have been reached had he not pressed the issue.

Like I said, it probably won't work out but gg for trying.

9/13/2006 4:23:48 PM

word, gg for trying

all in all, still take the trip and then bust your balls when you return

9/13/2006 4:24:41 PM

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"No kidding. Any of you toolbags who say "he is right, you are wrong" should be smacked in the face. Ever gone 5 over & got pulled? Sure, the cop SHOULD give you a ticket, but you hope to high heavens he sympathizes with you and lets it go. Nobody wants to get dicked over, and that professor is doing just that."

terrible comparison. 5 over ticket would be more like someone coming in 30 minutes late to an exam that has strict rules. some professors wouldnt let you take it, but most would be accomidating and let you either have a little extra time or just the remainder.

this is more like leaving late for work (lets assume you have an important job like surgeon) and having to drive 30 over. you've got to get where you are going, but because of your lack of preparation you have to pay the piper.

[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 4:25 PM. Reason : .]

9/13/2006 4:25:15 PM

There is nothing wrong with asking, there is something wrong with holding your skinned knees like a 6-yeard bitch and crying out loud on the tww claiming that you are gonna sick your mommy and or his boss on that prof's unreasonable ass.

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"I don't want to pull a bitch move and involve any outside sources (his higher-ups/associates, my folks, etc),"

[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 4:27 PM. Reason : sdfg]

9/13/2006 4:25:37 PM

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"If this put the professor in a very bad situation, that's one thing. But it doesn't,"

how do you know? you get all pissy saying that i dont know you, and now you're acting like you know the professors situation.

9/13/2006 4:25:59 PM

He won't let you take it before you leave either??? I may have missed that...

9/13/2006 4:26:52 PM

why should an academic professor at an academic institution have to bend because some guy wants to get drunk and gamble in vegas? i see no reason to bend.

[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 4:32 PM. Reason : s]

[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 4:32 PM. Reason : at]

9/13/2006 4:27:10 PM

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"Where would you be today if you parents dropped you off in a garbage can at age 2 today? Don't act like you weren't ever helped; that's about as ignorant as one can get."

1) Your obvious implication was that the professor was incapable of achieving his position without inordinate assistance.

2) My parents dropping me in a garbage can would be a clear violation of the 'rules', unlike the current topic of conversation where a professor is actually (gasp) following the rules.



You should never expect someone to bend the rules for you. It's nice when it happens, but if you expect it, you're being selfishconceited.

[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 4:40 PM. Reason : ]

9/13/2006 4:31:21 PM

haha you people make me laugh... i was going to take to the time to respond individually, but why bother. they planned the trip so that i'd have my 21st birthday in vegas. the trip is set in stone, yes my family should have consulted me, but they didn't. it was a suprise.

i'm fully aware of the fact that it's purely a pleasure trip and that i can't expect the world of academia to accomodate it. i'm not so dense as to expect my professors to bend over backwards for me. i'm prepared to accept a zero or whatever it takes, but, as southpaw has said, put yourself in my shoes. would you not want to try every last option to make it work out for the best? all i am doing.

so you hardasses out there calm down a little and stop taking yourselves so seriously. and if you're going to troll, josh### & a tanzarian, at least read the thread first. i don't think i'm "getting dicked over," as i've stated several times, i know my professor is in the right and it's ultimately his call.

but you'd be a liar if you've never asked a favor of someone and been disappointed when they declined.

[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 4:36 PM. Reason : and thanks to those of you who arent being douches for the sake of douchery]

9/13/2006 4:33:21 PM

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"You should never expect someone to bend the rules for you. It's nice when it happens, but if you expect, you're being selfish."

not selfish so much as conceited if think you deserve it.

[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 4:35 PM. Reason : .]

9/13/2006 4:34:39 PM

Look at all these type A personalities, aren't they lovely?

Sometimes I wonder if you people are real at all.

Actually, the sad thing is, you are.

[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 4:36 PM. Reason : -]

9/13/2006 4:36:09 PM

all of the "not getting dicked over" comments were responding to SouthPaW12. he seems to think you are getting dicked over when you are not.

9/13/2006 4:37:18 PM

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"We've had this trip planned for months, which includes 5 other people besides myself."

ok;

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"the trip is set in stone, yes my family should have consulted me, but they didn't. it was a suprise. "

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"josh### & a tanzarian, at least read the thread first. "

Yeah, I read your words. And youre a fucking bullshit filled crybaby.


[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 4:42 PM. Reason : pwnt]

9/13/2006 4:37:44 PM

haha okay, i'm a crybaby. now get over yourself and go on about your life

9/13/2006 4:38:21 PM

So which story is the real one. Hurry up and try and save face.

9/13/2006 4:38:42 PM

If you read carefully, you'll notice that no one is condemning you for trying. You're being condemned for sounding like a bitch that you're not getting your way.

SouthPaW12 said that you were being dicked over.

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"but you'd be a liar if you've never asked a favor of someone and been disappointed when they declined."

Hence, my comment that

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"You should never expect someone to bend the rules for you. It's nice when it happens, but if you expect it, you're being selfishconceited."

[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 4:40 PM. Reason : ]

9/13/2006 4:39:14 PM

^^am i the only one laughing at this guy? at least i have respect for sober

^ and where have i indicated i felt any differently?

[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 4:41 PM. Reason : f]

9/13/2006 4:39:36 PM

Im sure youve really pulled in a lot of respect with this 'im gonna get drunk and gamble and my prof's gonna deal with it' line.

[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 4:41 PM. Reason : 3]

9/13/2006 4:41:23 PM