There's an old saying that when the starting QB isn't doing well, the backup QB is the most popular guy on campus. I don't care who starts as long as we are efficient. I see Stone perhaps finding his way back into action some time down the line. This might just be the wake up call he needs. He knows now that the starting spot isn't guaranteed to him, and he'll come out and play like his job is on the line.

9/18/2006 5:33:53 PM

I'm excited about this. I might have to check the Ticket Exchange to see if anyone's got some tickets available.

I had a friend who played with him at Broughton, so I got to see him helm that team for two years. I was always impressed and thought him incredibly capable of leading an offense. We'll see how the past two years under Amato's tutelage have helped him mature.

9/18/2006 5:59:04 PM

well heres how i see it

We had Philip and didnt take into account Jay's lack of skill, so we had that year where we had no real running game and our defense was superior but due to lack of QB his turnovers made more points for the other team than our offense could put back on the board. So the next year we tried it again, again a superior defense and turnover prone offense that couldnt put the points on the board to cover its turnover points. Then we put in stone and change to a run heavy offense, we rely on the field position game and our defense to win us the games with a QB that lacked the passing skill to turn the ball over like Jay would, so we go into Alabama style football, defense first, then run, then pass. Now this year that defense is gone, we cant score points off of them, our defense must now put up points to cover ourselves because our D is no where as good. Now we dont have the ammunition to put up those points because all marcus knows is the run game and letting the D win games. now we MUST go back to a balanced attack and be able to move the ball on offense and put up major points. so its simple, put in a passing QB and start the offense up some, now defenses cant stack the box praying that we run every time like we always have.

its simple and yet Chuck couldnt see it till now, took him 2 losses.

9/18/2006 6:09:44 PM

this is awesome...I hope he's up to the challenge

9/18/2006 6:40:53 PM

PUT GAVIN GRANT IN FOR QB FOR FUCKS SAKE

WHY IS THIS ENTIRE PROGRAM SO DUMB

WE NEED A FUCKING BROTHER BEHIND CENTER

9/18/2006 6:57:20 PM

THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE GREATLY, NOW





(until the game starts)

9/18/2006 7:06:06 PM

Good for him!! I am excited to see something new. Especially because I think Evans' whole heart is into this. It is his dream and I am happy to see it.

9/18/2006 7:14:03 PM

I am excited about DE playing...never really thought Stone should have replaced Jay..but the best thing about this IF DE doesnt do well in the first half...we will have "Second Half Stone" (who can be impressive as long as he doesnt throw an interception)

9/18/2006 7:16:40 PM

http://ncstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=43&tid=79169451&mid=79169451&sid=899&style=2

We have a "brother" coming in as a QB next year. Russell Wilson. the link is to an update a poster on TheWolpacker.com posted.

Quote :

"Update on your recruit Russell Wilson Two games into the season - 700 yards passing, 12 touchdown passes, almost 200 yards rushing. His private school team beat the snot out of a solid local public school 44-19 lat night. UVa may regret not having pushed this one harder. Super kid, great QB."

9/18/2006 7:24:15 PM

maybe he'll be the next vince young.

9/18/2006 7:27:29 PM

looks like someone else realized, we need a brother

9/18/2006 7:36:44 PM

he's going to pull double duty as a member of the baseball team also. many think Russell Wilson probably would have been more highly recruited/rated if he had been like 2 inches taller.

9/18/2006 7:48:48 PM

Quote :

"USM 24 NCSU 17 Chuck then announces that Daniel Evans will start against BC so that someone will actually show up."

Hahah I called this before the USM game. Chuck is only doing this to get people to come...but I want to go now so I guess he fooled me into coming.

9/18/2006 8:07:42 PM

Quote :

"stowned"

lolz

9/18/2006 8:13:26 PM

begin the daniel evans caption contest

9/18/2006 8:20:16 PM

Uh... I'm in favor of the QB switch, however, I just hope he doesn't get hit.

9/18/2006 8:26:21 PM

bitch better use that speed and get the hell out of dodge.

9/18/2006 8:27:00 PM

I know two things about Daniel Evans.

I know we beat him and his brother by 40 last year in intramural basketball.

And i know that he travels on every play.

You can not do a jumpstop if you dont land on both legs simultaneously.

That being said, I bet he's a better QB than Stone...

9/18/2006 8:29:40 PM

he's listed as 191lbs. he'll be aight

9/18/2006 8:32:49 PM

Quote :

"not gonna matter if the D keeps letting opponents move the ball at will."

its hard to play D when youre on the field 75 percent of the game.

9/18/2006 8:40:06 PM

by the way, he took over Greco's number 7 i believe after Greco left, so no its not Greco coming into the game.

9/18/2006 9:01:21 PM

he may be thin for the normal QB these days, but Rex Grossman was thin and got the job done quite well.

9/18/2006 9:15:36 PM

Greco has a tight spiral

9/18/2006 9:16:16 PM

Quote :

"its simple and yet Chuck couldnt see it till now, took him 2 losses"

Let's not be so quick to judge.

I see it like this

There is a reason that Stone got the nod over Evans to start the season. That is, our coaches deemed him better.

This should be answered this weekend by Evans being no better (or marginally) than Stone. If our OL is as poor as it seems, then Evans will have just as much trouble as Stone.

But, if Evans is a major improvement over Stone, then we have some really serious questions about our coaching staff that need answered. The main one being, how the fuck did this happen?


As shitty as we have played lately all over the field, it wouldn't surprise me if the second scenario plays out, though I tend to think that it isn't going to happen, so don't get your hopes up. Something that very well could make this scenario play out is, I remember in Davis' first year reading about how the named starter gets ALL the reps in practice. Dunno if this is still true or not, but it is kinda dumb to me to not continue trying to develop the backup right along side the starter.

9/18/2006 9:57:40 PM

Quote :

"at this point i'll bust a nut if we go 6-6"

Exactly.

6-6 or 7-5 would be a great finish, as far as I'm concerned.

9/18/2006 10:13:49 PM

he is indeed 7

brother is 82

[Edited on September 18, 2006 at 10:20 PM. Reason : ]

9/18/2006 10:17:46 PM

Evans looks a lot bigger than he did...those pics of him as #19 are from last year. He's 7 now and looked normal size in the pocked saturday night. He's big enough to handle a beating imo now. He's not as big as Stone, but he's probably big enough now.



^his brother is 6 I believe now.

[Edited on September 18, 2006 at 10:18 PM. Reason : ]

9/18/2006 10:18:01 PM

Quote :

"There is a reason that Stone got the nod over Evans to start the season. That is, our coaches deemed him better."

Better in practice. The guy obviously has some issues transferring that onto the field, because he can't produce at all in the 1st half.

Quote :

"But, if Evans is a major improvement over Stone, then we have some really serious questions about our coaching staff that need answered. The main one being, how the fuck did this happen?"

It's definitely a bit odd that two QBs in a row have sucked this horribly, albeit for different reasons. Could be coaching/development, could be the O-line, could be poor scouting, could just be a fluke. Hard to say.

Quote :

", I remember in Davis' first year reading about how the named starter gets ALL the reps in practice. Dunno if this is still true or not, but it is kinda dumb to me to not continue trying to develop the backup right along side the starter."

That was the excuse for Stone's performance last year--that Trestman runs NFL-style practices where the starter gets the vast majority of the reps. I don't know if that's actually true, because Stone certainly didn't improve once he was the starter.

9/18/2006 10:20:28 PM

Quote :

"I remember in Davis' first year reading about how the named starter gets ALL the reps in practice. Dunno if this is still true or not, but it is kinda dumb to me to not continue trying to develop the backup right along side the starter."

From what I remember, this was just last year and not the year before. The deal was that Trestman ran practice like a pro practice where #1 gets like 85% of the reps, #2 like 10 %, and then everyone else splits the last little bit. And I think that is just reps with the 1st team offense, not total reps.

9/18/2006 10:23:00 PM

^Yep.

The 2nd-string QB would of course get a ton of reps playing against the D as a scout team.

9/18/2006 10:23:58 PM

here's the way i see this. It can't possibly get any worse than stone. So no matter what happens now, at least we are getting Evans some game experience and I plan to NOT BOO him no matter what...

9/18/2006 10:43:42 PM

Daniel is #7... Been said up there ^

Andrew the WR is #82 this year. He was 6 last year but he too has switched numbers

9/18/2006 10:50:36 PM

SSjamind has a solid point!

9/19/2006 12:30:26 AM

http://www.technicianonline.com/media/storage/paper848/news/2006/09/19/Sports/Stone.Out.Evans.In-2283574.shtml?sourcedomain=www.technicianonline.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com



[Edited on September 19, 2006 at 1:58 AM. Reason : link]

9/19/2006 1:57:08 AM

maybe/hopefully this move with Daniel Evans at QB will give a spark to the Pack offense, at least with the threat of a passing game our opponents will not be able to put 8 or more defenders in the box which should open up the running game again. Considering the fact that Evans beat out Mike Greco in spring practice,and that Greco is doing a good job leading Pearl River Comm College to a #1 ranking in Junior College football at least gives us hope for the BC game and the remainder of the season.

9/19/2006 6:08:36 AM

a friend of mine was on the team last year and he told me that Evans was always the better quarterback hands down during practice, but Amato has something about upperclassmen...glad to see the best qb is playing now

9/19/2006 12:11:02 PM

does anyone know his 40 speed?

9/19/2006 12:12:15 PM

4.81

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=702692

9/19/2006 12:21:39 PM

Is he blk, white, mixed, or other race? I can't tell from pictures...




III

9/19/2006 1:08:25 PM

Quote :

"A quadruplet, he has a twin brother, Andrew and twin sisters, Katherine and Quinn "

9/19/2006 1:33:27 PM

[Edited on September 19, 2006 at 2:29 PM. Reason : opps]

9/19/2006 2:29:13 PM

Holy shit, Caulton Tudor actually says something good about something Chuck did

http://www.newsobserver.com/769/story/488078.html

9/19/2006 8:10:06 PM

in the Technician today it said he came into State at 170 lbs. and added 25 lbs. since he's been here. so 195, wasn't that Rex Grossmans weight in college?

Grossman is listed at 217 now with the Bears. i just remember how everyone pointed out how slim he was.

[Edited on September 19, 2006 at 8:14 PM. Reason : ]

9/19/2006 8:13:39 PM

as long as he has a cannon and can make a decision in around 3 seconds, his weight doesnt matter.

9/19/2006 8:15:49 PM

well yeah that's what i'm trying to point out. most point to Evans size when talking about him and they think that just b/c he's not over 200 lbs. he's not going to be able to take the punishment. i threw out Rex Grossman as the most recent example of a smart QB that wasn't very big, but successful in college. in fact they share similar dimensions. Grossman was like 6'1" under 200 lbs in college. Evans is currently 6'2" and 191 lbs. now if he just has the QB brain that Grossman did. Grossman got screwed over with the coaching change down at UF. he could've probably won the Heisman if Spurrier would have stayed, and he didn't feel pressure to leave early from Ron Zook due to Chris Leak coming in wanting to start as a true freshman.

9/19/2006 8:29:14 PM

Try to stay on topic: Daniel Evans.


It sounds like you have a man-crush on Rex Grossman.

9/19/2006 8:34:47 PM

what the hell, naw i was just trying to argue for why Evans may actually have a shot, which many on this board have not done. a lot of posters in the past have acted like one hard hit is gonna break every rib in his body or give him an instant concussion. let's give him a shot. i only made the Grossman comparisons to show that one doesn't have to be built like Rivers to be a good QB. look at Flutie. he won the Heisman at BC.

9/19/2006 8:40:25 PM

Jamie Barnette is a good example of a small QB who took a beating but never stayed down.

He was a preseason pick for All-ACC his Senior season, but Torry graduated and Barnette sucked without him.

9/19/2006 8:48:04 PM