hadrian All American 1137 Posts user info edit post |
Well Stark HAD to build a suit in order to sustain his own life for starters. The whole point of Iron Man was that he was a physically weak man inside this armor but that being physically weak didn't mean he couldn't have courage and fight evil. Batman was physically and intellectually the perfect man but emotionally weak. So we see them adopting radically different personas one meant to project strength, the other mean to inspire fear through its mysteriousness.
And for the most part just about every hero has been puedo-psychoanalyized to the point that all could be described as 'tortured' if you want to be that simplistic about it. The things that torture Stark and Wayne and their motivations are very different from one another. For Batman his emotional torture is his motivation for fighting evil-doers, for Iron Man it is largely a result of fighting said evil doers. If you want to be that simplistic in the comparison "emotionally tortured millionaire fights evil doers" describes dozens of heros. And emotionally tortured _____ describes just about all of them.
Also batman does have a fair few technological gadgets and wears a type of armor and doesn't have to worry about emp weapons shutting down his suit and him just being stuck sitting there like an idiot...so I dunno how stupid that is considering the number of times that happens to iron man. Luckily his power always seems to reroute just in time...but one of these days. 4/17/2007 10:08:18 AM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Why can batman not be a great detective AND have a kick ass suit?" |
Batman Beyond4/17/2007 10:14:05 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
4/17/2007 10:41:38 AM |
synchrony7 All American 4462 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Sure they are emotionally tortured, but half the time Spiderman couldn't make rent Good summary though. 4/17/2007 10:52:09 AM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
http://iesb.net/index.php?option=com_xevidmegafx&Itemid=139&func=detail&id=582
video is here, the website works, but you gotta retry it like 20 times
[Edited on May 5, 2007 at 6:54 PM. Reason : a]
5/5/2007 6:52:41 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
suit looks pretty good 5/5/2007 8:25:29 PM |
umbrellaman All American 10892 Posts user info edit post |
My understanding is that Stark was shot in the heart or something while in a POW camp, or something to that effect. Disregarding how he got the parts he needed to make a life-support suit for a moment, how could he have lived long enough to even get it built? 5/5/2007 9:20:53 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
5/5/2007 9:32:29 PM |
LiusClues New Recruit 13824 Posts user info edit post |
cocaine kept him alive 5/5/2007 10:16:45 PM |
hadrian All American 1137 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^I think that PA that is on the lookout in that video is SO getting fired. 5/6/2007 10:20:13 AM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
the thread seems funnier if you misread it
"Robert Downey Jr. vs. Iron Man"
now that'd be a different movie. 5/6/2007 6:44:50 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
the fact that they have an actual suit that looks fairly mobile and flexible makes me happy instead of all CGI bullshit 5/6/2007 7:50:23 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
"New" image:
Pretty cool. 7/18/2007 1:51:39 AM |
Docido All American 4642 Posts user info edit post |
Damn thats fricking awesome. It looks just like it does in the comics. Thats hott 7/18/2007 3:25:56 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
I likes it. 7/18/2007 3:42:13 AM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
^^ i know, its almost unfathomable because movies tend to downplay the "comic" look for a more life approach. i like it though 7/18/2007 6:44:13 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
7/18/2007 7:23:50 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "My understanding is that Stark was shot in the heart or something while in a POW camp, or something to that effect. Disregarding how he got the parts he needed to make a life-support suit for a moment, how could he have lived long enough to even get it built?" |
The only thing I seem to remember was that it was sloooooowly killing him. Also, I think it was a piece of shrapnel, not a bullet.
The only thing I didn't get as a kid was how he could make this elaborate suit to stay alive but not just simply remove the shrapnel. Maybe he got to that later - after he escaped from the prison camp?7/18/2007 9:24:16 AM |
PackMan92 All American 8284 Posts user info edit post |
the suit isn't what's keeping him alive
he has something else in his chest (totally unrelated to the suit) that keeps his heart beating
EDIT: when he's being held captive, the FIRST suit/exoskeleton he makes is to keep him alive and help him escape
but back in the US he can't go trouncing around in the suit all the time so he makes a smaller device that you can't see while he's wearing clothes and updates the exoskeleton suit/makes more
[Edited on July 18, 2007 at 10:44 AM. Reason : ] 7/18/2007 10:40:27 AM |
hadrian All American 1137 Posts user info edit post |
yeah originally it was the suit though, he later got it to be an independent thing in his chest. 7/18/2007 10:53:46 AM |
Skallah All American 1128 Posts user info edit post |
7/23/2007 4:04:35 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
see that glowing thing under his shirt?
that's what they're talking about 7/23/2007 4:12:22 PM |
Drovkin All American 8438 Posts user info edit post |
remember his clone? 7/23/2007 4:13:07 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
he looks kinda drugged out in that picture...which is good. I have high hopes for this movie 7/23/2007 4:14:05 PM |
BiggzsIII All American 5016 Posts user info edit post |
This is making me look fwd to the movie more....Thought be cheesy at first but giving me some hope.
III 7/23/2007 4:18:22 PM |
Skallah All American 1128 Posts user info edit post |
The cool thing about this movie is Jon Favreau got alot of input directly from the fans. Something George Lucas should've done instead of worrying about his damn HD cameras. 7/23/2007 4:21:31 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he looks kinda drugged out in that picture" |
1) he's robert downey jr 2) he's playing tony stark 3) he's robert downey jr playing tony stark7/23/2007 7:16:34 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
which was why the next statement after that one was..."which is good" 7/23/2007 7:20:14 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Some leaked footage from Comic con
http://www.dailymotion.com/ingy489/video/x2n6nu_iron-man-exclusive-comic-con-clip_shortfilms
Looks good. Seems like it will be pretty funny too.
Interviewer: You've been called the da Vinci of our time, what do you say to that? Stark: Absolutely ridiculous, I don't paint. Interviewer: And what do you say to your other nickname, The merchant of death? Stark: That's not bad. 7/29/2007 7:48:51 AM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
wow 7/29/2007 9:38:47 AM |
umbrellaman All American 10892 Posts user info edit post |
All I can say is
The potential for this movie to be awesome just increased by at least an order of magnitude of 4. 7/29/2007 10:50:38 AM |
NumbWall All American 1613 Posts user info edit post |
I definitely like how they're starting with the old "tin man" suit and then going to his more sophisticated suit. 7/29/2007 10:54:31 AM |
PackMan92 All American 8284 Posts user info edit post |
Sweet video 7/29/2007 11:36:31 AM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
that looks freakin awesome 7/29/2007 3:30:17 PM |
Axelay All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
Looks very good so far! Definitely an opening day must-see for me. 7/29/2007 5:26:45 PM |
khufu All American 2103 Posts user info edit post |
Wowwww! 7/29/2007 5:46:47 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6108
Pictures of the "Mark I" armor. looks pretty cool. I still haven't seen a preview for this movie even though I keep reading about how there is one out there. 7/30/2007 3:57:23 PM |
duro982 All American 3088 Posts user info edit post |
the trailer has been taken down from the link posted. Anyone know where it's posted?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=egks4aWCO_4
[Edited on July 30, 2007 at 6:35 PM. Reason : found it]
7/30/2007 6:32:38 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
7/30/2007 7:19:49 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
damn i'm not even an iron man fan OR robert druggie jr fan but i want to see this after watching that clip 7/30/2007 8:22:43 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
FUCKING AWESOME! 7/30/2007 8:46:36 PM |
cheerwhiner All American 8302 Posts user info edit post |
i assume they will use the "iron man" song by Ozzy for this trailer 7/31/2007 8:15:35 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
working video link plz 7/31/2007 9:14:34 AM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
the trailer keeps getting taken down all over the place and I haven't been able to catch it.
anyone know where one is? 7/31/2007 10:24:19 AM |
J_Hova All American 30984 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6DLN3S2X 7/31/2007 10:33:27 AM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk1CZ_slMKc 7/31/2007 11:03:53 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
7/31/2007 11:37:41 AM |
BiggzsIII All American 5016 Posts user info edit post |
Awwwe Fuck, that shit looking good.
III 7/31/2007 12:25:38 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
The youtube video is gone again. They must really hate free advertising. 7/31/2007 12:35:07 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
yeah they keep taking it down, but thanks to those who were able to embed it.
looks kinda cheesy from that clip, but I'm sure things will be fine. 7/31/2007 1:26:51 PM |