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chembob
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2 pages of a dumb hot asian

10/2/2006 9:31:22 AM

iceplaya
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you at least grabbed her phone # off her resume right?

10/2/2006 9:51:12 AM

Quinn
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"did he teach you about the amplifying diode as well?"


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"Umm, don't you have the second diagram wrong?

Shouldn't the anode of the non-zener diode be connected to the anode of the zener, then the cathode to ground? The zener sets the voltage at the output of the resistor to 4.3 then you need the + .7 of the non-zener to add up for your 5v needed for the output. As you have it drawn, the zener sets the voltage at 4.3, then you have a .7 drop across the the non-zener to the output, which would give you 3.6V

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I didnt want to type alot but I was in the same boat as State409C.

10/2/2006 10:21:58 AM

jbrick83
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"So was she hot enough to still get the job???"

10/2/2006 10:45:13 AM

State409c
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"I didnt want to type alot but I was in the same boat as State409C."


Yea, when I first saw the diagram I thought it was strange. But admittedly, my EE knowledge is continuing to seep out as the years of not using it start to pile up and I wasn't quite sure. Then I saw your comment and I thought that's what you were referencing.

10/2/2006 1:21:20 PM

Quinn
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yeah , i didnt want to type up a bunch of shit explaining it because i figured it really wasnt going to influence some girl not knowing anything and joe being surprised. It is kind of funny to read a slam on some poor girl and scroll down and think "man i dont think thats right.....".

The only time ive ever used a circuit like that was to generate an "enable" voltage reference on a dc-dc converter from a very unregulated (10-40V WTF?) source like a UPS. In that case this would still work (3.6 > 2.5). You would need a zener of the titans to drop the worst case input voltage.

10/2/2006 3:20:09 PM

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Sounds like you did fine. I've conducted interviews when the person I was interviewing didn't have a clue about anything. It's always a bit uncomfortable to have to look an expectant job seeker in the eye knowing early on that they don't have a chance of getting the job they're interviewing for. I use a set of prescreen questions that I usually have someone else ask the person. If they get 3/10 right, they get an interview. I always do my best to lessen the anxiety of my interviewees by letting them know that I don't expect them to be able to answer every question.

10/4/2006 12:56:09 AM

hooksaw
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I can't take the question seriously. Who would start a serious "How can I be better?" question concerning skills as an interviewer with "I interviewed this really hot Asian chick"? Are you kidding? You can start being better by not being like that. Be professional, man. I’m telling you from experience--listen to me.

10/4/2006 2:06:46 AM

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"I use a set of prescreen questions that I usually have someone else ask the person. If they get 3/10 right, they get an interview."


Only 30%? How hard are the questions?

10/4/2006 8:32:46 AM

robster
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I would be mad at HR if someone with such little in the way of knowledge got as far as a face to face interview ... especially since you arent a regular recruiter.

In my interviewing experience, I have found that there are plenty of people who can answer hard questions under the pressure of an interview, and they regularly make better employees than those who cannot. The ones who cant should just practice more (which lack of practice shows their real motivation for the interview) or go down a different career path if they really didnt learn anything about their major.

10/4/2006 11:35:54 AM

State409c
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"I can't take the question seriously. Who would start a serious "How can I be better?" question concerning skills as an interviewer with "I interviewed this really hot Asian chick"? Are you kidding? You can start being better by not being like that. Be professional, man. I’m telling you from experience--listen to me."


I had no clue that this forum demanded the same level of "professionalism" that the actual interview did. Get over yourself and stop looking for things to make posts about just for the sake of a post.

10/4/2006 11:53:28 AM

jdman
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I've done a considerable amount of both pre-screening (resumes, phone calls) and interviewing candidates face-to-face for engineering positions.

you did nothing wrong. I'm a CHE, working in pharmaceuticals, so like almost everyone else said, I don't know anything about those diagrams. But you should always ask some tough technical questions, no matter how awkward it gets.

When I started doing interviews, I felt bad and tried to help a struggling candidate, but I found that it clouded my analysis of their merits. It makes it harded to score a candidate's ability when they said the right things, but you coached them the whole way.

I toss one "hint" if they're struggling, and after that, if they continue to tank, I just shrug and say "it's ok, lets just move on"

10/4/2006 12:48:30 PM

nchockey
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"bullshit - there's no excuse for an EE not knowing how to do voltage division"


no shit huh

10/4/2006 1:52:08 PM

joe17669
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Thanks all for your advice. I should have asked more open-ended questions to let her tell me what she knew, instead of me asking what she knew. I can't say I'm really upset that she froze on the questions, but after she saw the completed problem, I would expect her to be able to discuss it.

State409c and Quinn, you are absolutely correct. I made an error in the second diagram. I was quickly just going from memory when drawing the circuit, not actually analyzing it I used a correct printout of the circuit from a textbook. Now to think of it, it's pretty obvious it's from a textbook because why would you have such an irregular source, as someone said, 10-40V WTF? And you said your EE skills were fading away, don't be so modest

hooksaw, it's TWW. It doesn't matter what section you're in, the question is bound to come up, "was she hot?" So I just got the question out of the way. I didn't treat her any differently because she was gorgeous, at least I hope I didn't. Maybe I'll know if I get some ugly person next time I felt I was very professional in the interview.

I didn't recommend her for further consideration. I did this based on her behavior and seemingly lack of desire for the position, not so much on her inability to answer from my technical questions, but her inability to discuss them with me. Just sitting there while others work through the problem doesn't show you have great communication skills. I was almost immediately turned off by her racial stereotype remark. Sure it's one thing to joke on here, but you don't do that stuff in a big corporate environment, even as a joke.

My next interview is scheduled for October 11. I hope I'll be back to work by then, and look forward to taking in and using some of your advice.

10/5/2006 6:42:44 AM

Quinn
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How is the pay / location. You can pencil me in for an interview once i can speak again (mono + strep throat = laaaaaaasting impression)

10/5/2006 8:55:29 AM

arhodes
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gg on not letting her get by on looks

10/5/2006 10:42:13 AM

Jader
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maybe youre HR department is "testing" you?

10/5/2006 12:34:02 PM

hooksaw
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^^^^^^^ and ^^^^ That's cool. I was just concerned about too much focus on the hotness. Good luck.

10/5/2006 1:40:59 PM

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"it was pretty fucking funny the way she said it, but knew that it wasn't very appropriate for her to do what she did, or for me to laugh at it."


haha whatever if it's funny, i'm laughing. life's too short not to.

however, she obviously wasn't qualified. You found that out. Mission accomplished, man up and get ready for the next interview.

10/5/2006 3:00:41 PM

Jere
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you have incredible patience. not only did you give her plenty of chances when she was being a dumbass, but you type the longest fucking posts of anyone on here and you're a pirate. props!

10/5/2006 4:03:24 PM

joe17669
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"How is the pay / location. You can pencil me in for an interview once i can speak again (mono + strep throat = laaaaaaasting impression)"


I work for an energy company/electric utility located in downtown Atlanta. I'm sure their pay is competitive with most other companies, and is determined by your job function and experience. I'm also convinced that they also pay extra to new recruits who they believe to have potential. I am just doing research for them (they're my sponsor for graduate school), and I get about 1.9*$texas, probably as an incentive to get me to stay with them after I graduate.

PS - hope you feel better

10/6/2006 12:04:45 PM

chezcrakas
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first off... you left her enough rope to hang herself

it seems you were jovial, cordial, and gave her enough time and patience as far as the interview goes. Generally, you should be able to see how well the person will do within ten minutes of talking with them. If she cant answer the simplest of questions, its very hard to prove to a superior why you have approved of that person.

Second... she wanted your balls... and ethnic people can make fun of themselves, white people you have permission to laugh at our jokes. It's just too bad she didnt live up to the stereotype that asians are smarter...

10/6/2006 2:35:42 PM

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"haha whatever if it's funny, i'm laughing."


the point is, its not funny - because if he'd laughed in the wrong way she could've taken offense and gotten him fired.

[Edited on October 6, 2006 at 2:53 PM. Reason : s]

10/6/2006 2:53:23 PM

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