and once again, I say switch out New Englands defense for Indy's for 5 straight years and Manning would have won at least one.

10/30/2006 1:02:31 AM

comparing him to tom brady is a bit unfair...i mean how many qbs are there in the history of the nfl that have 3 or more rings?....brady is in rare company of great qbs

10/30/2006 1:04:07 AM

I mean, if you actually watch Manning play, its not even debatable. He is the QB and offensive coordinator. The OC just "suggests" run or pass, Manning does the rest. Its amazing to watch them work.

32 for 39 passing in the NFL is fucking retarded, especially against a D that was playing at a crazy level so far this year

[Edited on October 30, 2006 at 1:08 AM. Reason : d]

10/30/2006 1:06:05 AM

amazing

now lets see him do that in the playoffs

instead of choking

10/30/2006 1:09:23 AM

^^

Orly?

So I guess that he gets the credit for last year's offensive play calling against Pittsburgh in the playoffs last year as well?

On paper he's got the tools to be the greatest ever.


He's just a choke artist but has Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison to carry him through.

[Edited on October 30, 2006 at 1:09 AM. Reason : ^^]

10/30/2006 1:09:38 AM

^ that is the dumbest post I have ever seen. Yeah, Manning has to get "carried" by someone, you got it. And anyone can have a down game, thats why I said give him Brady's D for 5 years, he would win one of them at least. NE didnt win last year so that means Brady choked?

[Edited on October 30, 2006 at 1:14 AM. Reason : d]

10/30/2006 1:10:42 AM

goddamn your stupid straw-men hurt my brain.

You misrepresent everyone's argument. Are you really that stupid or are you just trolling?

10/30/2006 1:22:45 AM

??? so you agree with him that Harrison and Wayne "carry" Manning?

10/30/2006 1:23:48 AM

no this strawman

Quote :

"NE didnt win last year so that means Brady choked?"

and this one

Quote :

"hahahha, yeah, so I guess good old Trent is the man compared to shitty ass Manning"

and this

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"You are retarded if you think Manning has hurt the Colts super bowl hopes"

It helps to actually address someone's argument instead of making up bullshit and attributing it to them.

[Edited on October 30, 2006 at 2:03 AM. Reason : 2]

10/30/2006 2:02:24 AM

Quote :

"just great offensive teams"

...teams which he's layed offensive eggs with in the playoffs. That's my problem with him. It's not like he's losing in shootouts in the playoffs. He puts up crazy stats and wins "big games" in the regular season and then becomes a mediocre QB in the playoffs.

I'm not even a big fan of Tom Brady, I probaly won't even put him in my top-15 all-time QBs...but I'd take him in a milisecond over Peyton if it was a playoff game. Brady plays above himself in the playoffs, Peyton plays a level below.

10/30/2006 8:07:38 AM

today is the day manning wins......faggots

1/21/2007 11:03:46 AM

[no]

it wont happen

1/21/2007 11:08:38 AM

how can you say manning is clutch? thats a joke

1/21/2007 12:03:03 PM

Hey Teddy, I hate to bother you...will you sign my mellon?

To Peyton...P-E-Y...Thats awesome man!

1/21/2007 12:21:08 PM

the patriots suck monkey ball sack and so do you

1/21/2007 1:24:21 PM

"It's ok guys, they're not saying booooo, they're saying mooooooooooooovers."

I'm not going to say I'm rooting against Manning, but if he does lose (yet again), I will thoroughly enjoy watching the dumb look on his face and listening to who he throws under the bus this time.

1/21/2007 4:13:24 PM

This guy deserves it more than anyone....and he will win the super bowl this season

1/21/2007 10:57:32 PM

no, no he will not

1/21/2007 11:01:01 PM

I think he probably will.

1/21/2007 11:02:49 PM

i love watching manning come close and then fall...
he'll win it one day regardless (i don't think he's "loyal enough" to stick around if the colts stop putting together contending teams, and by "loyal enough" i of course mean "stupid enough")... i just want it drawn out as long as possible... make it agonizing...

1/21/2007 11:04:06 PM

i guess my thread makes me look stupid

1/21/2007 11:09:21 PM

1/21/2007 11:12:15 PM

Just showing up to admit that I was wrong.

His happy feet do kill me though.

The thought of one of the greatest ever not even being able to set his feet seems comical.

1/21/2007 11:34:23 PM

it works for him though somehow

i'm glad he got monkey 1/2 off of his back, esp since he killed two birds with one stone by going through brady and the rest of the sonofabitches from foxboro

1/21/2007 11:38:08 PM

fuck foxboro

fuck brady

fuck coach 'chek

fuck the patriots

and most of all

FUCK BOSTON

[Edited on January 22, 2007 at 12:02 AM. Reason : fuck editz]

1/22/2007 12:02:37 AM

go bears

1/22/2007 1:46:30 AM

damn, sucks that Brady choked like that... I mean, the one year he doesnt have a badass defense around him and then he goes and throws an INT like that... poor guy

1/22/2007 1:56:28 AM

the one year his WRs are completely horrible and his OL is in shambles

manning doesnt make it to the playoffs with that crew

1/22/2007 1:59:41 AM

true, but Manning wins at LEAST 1 superbowl with Brady's past teams...

1/22/2007 2:00:26 AM

agreed

[Edited on January 22, 2007 at 2:01 AM. Reason : btw i showed up at playmakers at like 12am, no one was there ]

1/22/2007 2:00:48 AM

Manning is all class. In his postgame interview, he praised the pats for being such a classy organization, despite the fact that Bellichek dissed his handshake after the game and Brady's punkass didn't even show up to congratulate him.

I get sick of people trying to find something wrong with the guy. Happy feet? who the fuck cares. And give me one example of him throwing a specific teammate under the bus, other than Vanderjagt's crazyass. Seriously.

[Edited on January 22, 2007 at 2:10 AM. Reason : ]

1/22/2007 2:04:39 AM

^^ on Friday? We went to Jackpot but I am pretty sure it was after midnight...

^ I agree, the guy is total class, anyone who hates him is basically one of those annoying fucks that just has to hate the "good guy" just to do it. If anyone in the league (along with LT) had reasons NOT to be humble it would be him, but he is really really humble, always puts the credit on his team and coaches when things go good, and takes the blame when things go bad, even with Vanderjagt he didnt really blame him for the game, just for the stupid comments

[Edited on January 22, 2007 at 2:07 AM. Reason : d]

1/22/2007 2:05:09 AM

if by throwing someone under the bus means saying "we had protection problems" like he did last year, then yes he does throw people under the bus. I consider that a fact of the game, throwing someone else under the bus would be like LT calling out Marty for not knowing how to coach a playoff game

1/22/2007 8:52:40 AM

peyton manning is like the big brother i never had and never met


people who put him down just don't get it.

1/22/2007 9:53:56 AM

Quote :

"manning doesnt make it to the playoffs with that crew"

Peyton has made it to the Super Bowl with the worst run defense in league history.

[Edited on January 22, 2007 at 10:10 AM. Reason : .]

1/22/2007 10:08:12 AM

Quote :

"if by throwing someone under the bus means saying "we had protection problems" like he did last year, then yes he does throw people under the bus"

no, he was actually calling out himself... he also said that it was his fault for not noticing where the pressure was coming from in time to redirect his blocking. Now, it probably WAS his O-line and RB's fault, but he didnt blame them

[Edited on January 22, 2007 at 2:13 PM. Reason : d]

1/22/2007 2:02:30 PM

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""we had protection problems""

I never understood how that was "throwing them under the bus"

but then ... I'm not a raging homo like 90% of the American media.

Quote :

"Peyton has made it to the Super Bowl with the worst run defense in league history. "

also a good point... first time in the history of pro football a team has gone an entire regular season not holding a single team under 100 rushing yards


[Edited on January 22, 2007 at 2:14 PM. Reason : .]

1/22/2007 2:13:03 PM

JAYBEE WHERE IS THAT THREAD OF MANNING WHEN ALL THOSE IDIOTS WERE TRYING TO SAY THAT RIVERS WAS BETTER THAN PEYTON MANNING??

1/22/2007 6:01:09 PM

WHERE IS THE CAPS LOCK BUTTON!?!?!? OMG!!!!

1/22/2007 6:04:11 PM

Quote :

"Manning is all class. In his postgame interview, he praised the pats for being such a classy organization, despite the fact that Bellichek dissed his handshake after the game and Brady's punkass didn't even show up to congratulate him."

Manning is a class act, no doubt about it. His teammates love him and defend him against media scrutiny every chance they get. No one works harder, no one runs his offense better, and no one literally is an offensive coordinator with a helmet like this guy.

Manning and Brady are THE two elite quarterbacks in the game today. Period. I'd take either one in a heartbeat to win a big game. I think in the past Peyton put too much pressure on himself and consequently sucked in a few games.... but he's a damn good QB and he's going to the Super Bowl


Oh and fuck Bill "I don't give post-game interviews when I lose" Bellicheck and Tom "I'm too much of a prick to congratulate the opposing QB" Brady...

Yeah, go the fuck home....

1/22/2007 7:22:11 PM

Quote :

"JAYBEE WHERE IS THAT THREAD OF MANNING WHEN ALL THOSE IDIOTS WERE TRYING TO SAY THAT RIVERS WAS BETTER THAN PEYTON MANNING??"

When the hell did you see that?

I can't see anyone saying Rivers is better except to troll Jaybee

1/22/2007 7:26:12 PM

^ those faggots, hate it when people cant be objective when it comes to sports

1/22/2007 7:28:54 PM

I think the most important argument so far has been the stats vs rings. The truth is being born of the right breding will help you out a lot with the stats (and if you aren't 6' 4" it's hard to be a pro in about anything). But I believe to win championships (sure you have to get lucky, but) on that stage, the last game of the year (it's not win or go home, it's win or be forgotten) that's when you find out about a man's character, his heart

[Edited on January 22, 2007 at 8:02 PM. Reason : f]

1/22/2007 8:01:18 PM

manning is pretty good

1/22/2007 8:09:23 PM

^^ horrible post

1/22/2007 8:26:44 PM

i concur

1/22/2007 8:38:19 PM

Quote :

"Peyton has made it to the Super Bowl with the worst run defense in league history."

technically speaking, this is a load of garbage

he may have made it to the playoffs with that defense, but they certainly werent the same defense in the playoffs

1/22/2007 9:48:02 PM

I didn't say that they played like they did in the regular season. What I said was that Peyton made it to the super bowl with the worst run defense in NFL history.

FACT: Peyton and the Colts have made it to the super bowl.

FACT: The 2006 Colts Defense was the worst defense against the run in NFL history.

They've played phenomenal in the playoffs, I was just making a statement. I don't think they'd be in the playoffs, much less playing in the super bowl without Peyton Manning. this was all just a counterpoint to the comparison to Brady and Brady's past teams. It's all just speculation and fuel for argument anyway.

1/22/2007 11:04:11 PM

fair enough

i just think its a tad misleading, and by that i mean, if they had played like they did in the regular season (ie the worst run defense evar or whatevar), they would have lost in the 1st round without question

1/22/2007 11:05:23 PM

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