yeah the defense isn't very good so far, but I think it will improve

11/10/2006 11:44:46 PM

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"Herb is going to do great at ASU and Sid is going to do great here. "

Couldn't agree more. I wish people would just quit bringing it up. It's over now.

11/10/2006 11:45:39 PM

^agreed

11/10/2006 11:47:07 PM

Thank God we got that abysmal offense out of here.

26 points at the half, thats terrible, reminds me of that game where we had like what 13 points at halftime??

gtfo with that

Run and Gun is so much better, and you guys fail to realize how many GREAT players and contributors we lost this year.

11/10/2006 11:49:41 PM

Do I have to repeat?

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"I wish people would just quit bringing it up. "

You have to respect the fact that Herb brought us back from really the dead and made us an ACC power again, but you know what he is gone....leave the man alone. He should get nothing but respect from our fans. He left when you people wanted him to.

11/10/2006 11:52:32 PM

im not gonna embed everywhere because windows media is annoying put not much of another way

message_topic.aspx?topic=443989&page=3

click for highlights.

11/10/2006 11:52:45 PM

^^good post. He did a lot for NCSU bball but just couldn't get it to the next level.

11/10/2006 11:58:15 PM

I had no real problem with Herb's offense from an excitement point of view, but I have to say that at no time tonight did I see a big man at the top of the key with no idea of what to do with the ball. With Herb, that happened a dozen times a night.

11/11/2006 12:01:50 AM

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"we felt that they were going to make an adjustment, they're a good ballclub. We wanted to make an adjustment as well."

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"we felt that they were going to make an adjustment, they're a good ballclub. We wanted to make an adjustment as well."

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"we felt that they were going to make an adjustment, they're a good ballclub. We wanted to make an adjustment as well."

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"we felt that they were going to make an adjustment, they're a good ballclub. We wanted to make an adjustment as well."

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"we felt that they were going to make an adjustment, they're a good ballclub. We wanted to make an adjustment as well."

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"we felt that they were going to make an adjustment, they're a good ballclub. We wanted to make an adjustment as well."

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"we felt that they were going to make an adjustment, they're a good ballclub. We wanted to make an adjustment as well."

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"we felt that they were going to make an adjustment, they're a good ballclub. We wanted to make an adjustment as well."

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"we felt that they were going to make an adjustment, they're a good ballclub. We wanted to make an adjustment as well."

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"we felt that they were going to make an adjustment, they're a good ballclub. We wanted to make an adjustment as well."

This is music to my ears. Adjustments...adjustments...adjustments.

11/11/2006 12:16:52 AM

it's really weird not seeing Herb on the court

11/11/2006 12:31:45 AM

http://getlowe.ytmnd.com/

11/11/2006 12:41:21 AM

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"Based on tonight's game, we can't compete in the ACC if we keep playing like this"

like i said:

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"a challenge to all you negative bitches: what spot will we finish in the ACC? throw a number out there so we can drag it back up and laugh at you in a few months."

throw up a number out if your confident that we're gonna suck the ass.

11/11/2006 12:58:37 AM

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" will take anything over 26-23 over the UNIVERSITY OF MOTHER FUCKING VICTORIA just like chuck is going to take his shitty attitude with the media to the grave, herbie is gonna take that fucking intelligent ass offense devised somewhere in a basement at carnegie mellon with him to the grave! "

agreed. it was time for that shit to go. he did much for the program (just like chuck is), but it was time to take the next step. thanks herb, gl. leave it at that.

11/11/2006 1:01:14 AM

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"if we keep playing like this"

11/11/2006 1:01:48 AM

NyM beat the shit out of everyone in this thread.

11/11/2006 1:53:14 AM

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"throw up a number out if your confident that we're gonna suck the ass."

8 or 9

11/11/2006 2:06:45 AM

Offense in college is mostly instinct except when you get a wide open lay up off of a good pick and roll. It takes time for young players to learn where to be on defense. A win is a win... end of story. thanks for coming out.

11/11/2006 2:29:28 AM

first game with a new coach and bunch of lost talent.......

Everyone please STFU

11/11/2006 4:50:44 AM

what you cunts don't understand, especially you faggot ass charlieefh, is that this was a fucking win. In a month nobody in here will be able to remember what the score was. In a year nobody will remember either. The point is we won the game. Coach Lowes team was so fun to watch.

everyone understands its gonna be a tough year. FINE. But it was fucking worth it to get that boring, unentertaining, bitch of a coach herb out of town. NCSU basketball is back to being fun, and in a couple of years we are going to start competing with the big programs because this mother fucker can recruit.

11/11/2006 6:59:31 AM

This is a team that has no depth, a new coach, a new system, and a frontcourt that has basically no experience before this year.

A game where they had to fight to come back, make some in-game adjustments, and learn to listen to and trust their new coach will ultimately be MUCH better for the team than a 30 point blowout.

By the way, we shot 62% from inside the arc and only took 18 3 pointers for the game. We scored consistently across the whole game and got to the foul line regularly.

Our defense needs some work, but even after the halftime adjustments, wofford was sinking 3s with hands in their faces. They just shot lights out, and beyond not leaving the wide open 3's, there's not much more you can do.

All of you who are expecting a national title caliber team this year need to shut the fuck up. You are stupid.

11/11/2006 8:33:00 AM

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"In a month nobody in here will be able to remember what the score was."

no, but i'll remember we almost lost our first game of the season

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"All of you who are expecting a national title caliber team this year need to shut the fuck up. You are stupid."

no one thinks that

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"Coach Lowes team was so fun to watch. "

not really

we're still not communicating with our passes and we're still missing easy shots under the rim

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"NCSU basketball is back to being fun, and in a couple of years we are going to start competing with the big programs because this mother fucker can recruit. "

that's like saying we've gotten better with each game...yet we've only played 1 game


this team, as it is right now, could easily lose 3 non-ACC games

a win isn't just a win--how you play and get that win determines the caliber of your team

11/11/2006 9:14:27 AM

If that had been Herb on the sidelines today we would have lost that game by 20-30 points. Remember Seton Hall last year? And that was with the 2005 roster. Lowe made excellent adjustments during half time--even little things during the dead ball time out--I saw him have a talk with Fells to setup that sick baseline drive and dunk he pulled. Lowe has a great presence on the sideline and the adjustments he made saved the win for us. Don't confuse a thin roster with poor coaching.

[Edited on November 11, 2006 at 9:28 AM. Reason : .]

11/11/2006 9:18:15 AM

this thread should be blown up with dynamite

11/11/2006 9:24:29 AM

^^ right on point...

our pride may suffer this season as we just get outmatched, but at look to the future and lets not be so quick to judge the outcome of this season.

11/11/2006 9:37:53 AM

Well it's not totally on point because we played Wofford, a team picked to finish in the bottom half of the SoCon. Seton Hall was a NCAA Tourney team from the best conference in the country that year..

I like Sidney a lot, but lets quit it with the senseless Herb bashing. Since I started school I recall ONE game played against a crap team like that which was close, against UNC-Gay when Grundy hit the game winner at the buzzer.. that was like 5 years ago.

I don't think it's 'better' than Herb but I also could care less. Herb is gone. I'm not going to sit here and complain when we lose about not having him just like I'm not going to sit here and gloat about not having him when we win. It's sour grapes on BOTH sides. Though I know it's impossible I'd love to not see his name in another NC State related conversation this year..

** As I said I think we finish 9th in the ACC. Mock me all you want if we finish higher, I'd love it. I've learned long ago that if I have unrealistic expectations it sucks more when you lose. I think 9th is realistic and anything else will be all the props in the world to Sid.


[Edited on November 11, 2006 at 9:52 AM. Reason : if that doesn't make sense i'm hungover as a bitch..]

11/11/2006 9:43:39 AM

^no shit right?


and FTW..............

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"Don't confuse a thin roster with poor coaching. "

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"Don't confuse a thin roster with poor coaching. "

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"Don't confuse a thin roster with poor coaching. "

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"Don't confuse a thin roster with poor coaching. "

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"Don't confuse a thin roster with poor coaching. "

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"Don't confuse a thin roster with poor coaching. "

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"Don't confuse a thin roster with poor coaching. "

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"Don't confuse a thin roster with poor coaching. "

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"Don't confuse a thin roster with poor coaching. "

you wont find out if he's a poor coach this year for that exact reason. So lets stop this.

11/11/2006 9:56:22 AM

i'm staying out of this thread

i think everybody knows where I stand

11/11/2006 10:17:57 AM

^^ /thread

there shouldn't be any more discussion at all about this until after he gets HIS team in there

11/11/2006 10:20:44 AM

so lock this thread and recreate it in 2010

11/11/2006 10:31:14 AM

I can dig it

11/11/2006 10:33:13 AM

Philip Rivers first game was a double overtime win against lowly Arkansas State...


Give it time....

11/11/2006 11:05:03 AM

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"i think everybody knows where I stand"

i wish you would stand on a faultline

11/11/2006 11:20:04 AM

bttt for:

Northern Arizona (1-1, 0-0 Big Sky) 75
Arizona State (0-1, 0-0 Pac-10) 71

11/14/2006 12:32:26 AM

no excuses

Herb lost his ASU opener versus a very Wofford-like team

11/14/2006 12:39:34 AM

you mean no excuses like he just walked in there with three years of another guy's recruits? gimme a break

11/14/2006 12:53:06 AM

your post makes no sense to me

11/14/2006 12:54:18 AM

yes. this is much better than herb.

11/14/2006 1:02:27 AM

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"that's like saying we've gotten better with each game...yet we've only played 1 game"

BTW, Wofford was the third game State has played so far, just the first game of the regular season. They played both Northern State and St. Augustine in exhibition the last two weeks prior to Wofford. And they have gotten better in each game, they looked the roughest against a short all-white Northern State team. They have become more cohesive and comfortable with the offence and their teammates each game so far.

[Edited on November 14, 2006 at 1:05 AM. Reason : .]

11/14/2006 1:02:27 AM

we'll see how Herb does in his 3rd game...

11/14/2006 1:04:32 AM

Why do we have to attack our present coach to retaliate against the Herb bashers?

This thread must die...

[Edited on November 14, 2006 at 1:17 AM. Reason : .]

11/14/2006 1:09:52 AM

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"we played Wofford, a team picked to finish in the bottom half of the SoCon"

because teams in this conference always finish exactly where theyre picked.

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"Seton Hall was a NCAA Tourney team from the best conference in the country that year"

yeah, but did you watch that game??? seton hall didnt exactly play "lights out" either, and kicked our ass. wed have lost to anybody that night. no major adjustments were made, and thats all im looking for this year. when problems occur, for adjustments to be made. that was our biggest problem in the past.

11/14/2006 1:18:49 AM

omg. i hope ncsu gets nuked. you fans suck balls. all of you.


just die.

11/14/2006 1:19:02 AM

At least Lowe won his 1st game, unlike Sendork, whose ASU team lost to Northern Arizona by 4. Northern Arizona adjusted to the ol' weave and heave in the 2nd half and shut down the Sun Devils, wow there's a shocker.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/clubhouse?teamId=9

11/14/2006 7:33:06 AM

Lowe had Engin Atsur

Herb had who?

Without Atsur next year we're going to be HORRIBLE beyond belief

11/14/2006 7:47:17 AM

11/14/2006 7:57:15 AM

^^youre joking, right?....RIGHT?

11/14/2006 8:02:18 AM

^^^ I do believe Herb had Atsur first...and yeh next we sure are going to suck with Hickson, Thomas and Smith on the roster along with Grant, Fells, Costner, Degand....man sucks to be a State fan are you kidding....


GO PACK!!

11/14/2006 8:28:37 AM

quotes from the ASU-NAU game summary that sound eerily familiar....

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"Arizona State led 14-5 after seven minutes, but NAU responded with a 9-0 run to tie the game at 14-14 midway through the first half."

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"NAU closed the first half on a 22-10 run to take a 39-33 lead into intermission."

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"The Sun Devils hit six of their first eight shots from the floor but then went cold. They made only nine of their next 26 shots to end the first half."

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"ASU hit only 10-of-36 from beyond the arc."

11/14/2006 8:35:25 AM

Dude, it's fucking Mid-November. Teams constantly play shitty this time of year, even good teams (which we're not yet).

Remember Gardner Fucking Webb ALMOST beating UNC last year? I hear that team went on to do pretty well.

11/14/2006 8:52:56 AM

Lowe is recruiting like a madman and I think Larry Harris could sell ice to an eskimo. Guys we are going to have a very talented team once all of Sid's recruits are here. Just be patient, this year expectations are low and they should be.

***** C JJ Hickson
**** PF Tracy Smith
***/**** PG Julius Mays
***/**** SG CJ Williams
*** SF Johnny Thomas

I added CJ becuase its at least 90% hes going to commit to us fairly soon. And these 2 guys are very early in the recruiting rankings they could easily be bumped to a 4 star next year especially Williams.

11/14/2006 9:23:08 AM