Quote :

""Losing to UNC again is NC State""

Actually Herb had a better record against UNC than Jimmy Valvano did, and I know how much of a God he is to the Herb haters.

12/6/2006 1:19:50 PM

Funny how winning a national championship makes people like you.

12/6/2006 1:20:41 PM

Funny how cheating ends up biting you in the ass.

Seriously, Jimmy V caused our program to suck major ass for 10 years because of recruiting dumbass players. He was a great coach, but let's be honest here those players were dumb as shit.

12/6/2006 1:22:05 PM

herb went against matt doe and shadow for much of the time-

was 0-2 against roy.

valvano coached against the winningest coach in history

12/6/2006 1:28:20 PM

Oh okay.

Herb doesn't go against the NOW best coaches in Coach K and Roy.

12/6/2006 1:30:30 PM

well he may have gone against them

but he didnt beat them

i know duke once.


i'll put it to you this way.

i supported herb

sidney lowe is a better coach than herb

i was wrong

now you try

[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 2:02 PM. Reason : l]

12/6/2006 2:02:07 PM

Quote :

"Actually Herb had a better record against UNC than Jimmy Valvano did, and I know how much of a God he is to the Herb haters."

3 of Herb's 4 wins vs UNC were against Matt Doherty's teams.... I think he managed to sweep them on thier amazing 8-20 season



Oh...nm...already said

Anywho... comparing Herb to V is dumb. Herb was a good coach but he wasn't a V. Imagine how good V would have had our teams if he didn't have to serve as head coach, Athletic Director, ESPN Commentator, and Public Speaker all at the same time

[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 2:08 PM. Reason : ]

12/6/2006 2:04:16 PM

Quote :

"Funny how cheating ends up biting you in the ass. Seriously, Jimmy V caused our program to suck major ass for 10 years because of recruiting dumbass players. He was a great coach, but let's be honest here those players were dumb as shit. "

bull shit

lead NCAA investigators found that V did not cheat
the book that was published were full of lies and that is a known fact

i now put you, packboozie, in the same category as trjnman for stupid sports talk posts

[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 2:14 PM. Reason : thanks]

12/6/2006 2:11:44 PM

*now

12/6/2006 2:13:30 PM

Quote :

"Actually Herb had a better record against UNC than Jimmy Valvano did"

I find this hard to believe does anyone have some statistics?

12/6/2006 2:13:40 PM

I think Valvano was 6-18 or 6-20 versus UNC, though I don't know for sure. Somewhere around there...

V I thought V had a better % than Herb against UNC anyway...

[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 2:17 PM. Reason : x]

12/6/2006 2:14:29 PM

I think he did by percentage.

His only wins came vs. Bill Gutheridge and Matt Doherty, though.

V was up against Dean Smith.


^ I think Herb wound up like 4-18..... ? (Which would put V higher in percentage. Maybe my memory is off on Herb?)




[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 2:16 PM. Reason : meant 4]

12/6/2006 2:14:49 PM

Wow, I didn't know V's percentage was that low. Atleast he managed to beat UNC in two ACC tournaments-what '83 and '87?

12/6/2006 2:18:43 PM

From what I remember, didn't V do really well vs Duke? (Although that was before K built his dynasty...)

12/6/2006 2:25:10 PM

Everett Case vs. UNC: 25-19
Press Maravich vs. UNC: 2-2
Norm Sloan vs. UNC: 13-26
Jim Valvano vs. UNC: 6-18
Les Robinson vs. UNC: 5-7
Herb Sendek vs. UNC: 5-16
Sidney Lowe vs. UNC: 0-0

Valvano had a better % .. I think Sendek actually lost 17 and this wasn't updated though

Sendek-led State teams swept UNC in both 01-02 and 02-03. I'm sure we all remember the CC Harrison game..

[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 2:45 PM. Reason : x]

12/6/2006 2:43:30 PM

Quote :

"He was a great coach, but let's be honest here those players were dumb as shit."

It's almost as if high-profile athletic programs recruit talent instead of intelligence...

12/6/2006 3:30:35 PM

Not worth getting into a flame war over..

you are all idiots

[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 3:38 PM. Reason : .]

12/6/2006 3:37:50 PM

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"you are not a statefan like you claim then faggot you should appreciate everything Herb did for our program"

i'm as big a statefan as anyone, but when it's time to move on, it's time to move on, and some of you assholes can't seem to figure that out.

I mean, yeah i'm grateful for him getting out program out of the shithole, but when people are hoping we do poorly and ASU does good just so they can say "I told you so," FUCK THAT, all of those people are 1000x worse fans than I.

when i say fuck him, i don't mean so much "he can rot in hell" as i do "forgetabout 'im"


do what you want, I just think it's pointless to pull for this guy and sometimes bash even other state fans or state because of his leaving.

but to each his own

[Edited on December 6, 2006 at 4:15 PM. Reason : fdsa]

12/6/2006 4:10:47 PM

There is not one single post in this thread that even hints that someone might want ASU to succeed and NCSU to fail to say 'I told you so.' There are plenty of posts hoping the old coach fails so they can say 'I told you so' though.

I hope Sendek does well but it isn't the first thing in my mind. Hoping NC State does well is.

12/6/2006 4:16:00 PM

i don't remember what thread it was but there have definitely been posts indicating that.

12/6/2006 4:17:45 PM

Herb would of had a tough year this year also

ASU will probably have a better record than NCSU

12/23/2006 5:58:17 PM

no chance....

the PAC 10 is a better conference this year than the ACC

12/23/2006 10:39:27 PM

I hate to tell you all this, but ASU has and always will suck. I'll bet someone money right now that NCSU will do shit tons better than ASU. Fuck Herb and fuck their nasty maroon and gold crap.

12/23/2006 11:35:46 PM

^^ REALLY?

[Edited on December 23, 2006 at 11:37 PM. Reason : []

12/23/2006 11:36:48 PM

up 17-6 on UCLA early.

1/18/2007 10:57:59 PM

Quote :

"up 17-6 on UCLA early."

Im sure this herb sendek-coached team will hold a big league against a ranked opponent in a big game.

1/18/2007 10:59:05 PM

hahahahahaha

1/18/2007 11:01:45 PM

A John Wooden/Bob Knight mix couldn't coach ASU to many wins this year. Their lack of talent and athleticism is appaling.

[Edited on January 18, 2007 at 11:03 PM. Reason : UCLA will win by 20...]

1/18/2007 11:02:55 PM

they are up 26-24, nearing the half

1/18/2007 11:03:59 PM

up by 3 at half

1/18/2007 11:25:11 PM

hey motherfucker beardog

why is this thread still around? just to spite me, eh?


troll motherfucker

1/18/2007 11:32:21 PM

lol 13 points in the 2nd half.

1/19/2007 12:35:55 AM

hahahahaha

The sad part is that that doesnt even come close to the awfulness of the st johns game

[Edited on January 19, 2007 at 12:38 AM. Reason : dsf]

1/19/2007 12:38:03 AM

6-12 (0-7)
w/ an eight game losing streak that started @ home against Davidson


yikes!

1/19/2007 1:14:52 PM

yeah, pretty much all of that has been stated in the official thread


but beardog is too much of a motherfucker to trash this thread

1/19/2007 3:36:31 PM

6-14

1/28/2007 12:04:04 PM

6-16

2/5/2007 12:42:07 AM

I laughed so hard when I heard he lost by one point.

2/5/2007 9:43:58 AM

why would you laugh

you people are fucking horrible and a joke to the rest of the wolfpack nation

the man did big things for our program

i swear to god i wish i could fucking stab each of you in the jaw

2/5/2007 9:47:01 AM

BUT WE BEAT CAROLINA GUNZZZZZZZ!!!!!

BY 4! OPWNTAGE!!!11!

THE SEASON IS COMPLETES!!!!

stabity stab!

fag

2/5/2007 10:04:46 AM

have i mentioned how much I fucking hate Beardogg for not locking this thread?

2/5/2007 10:05:37 AM

look at tokken following me around sports talk trying to troll me after i just owned his ass

hahah, why do you have me on the brain, tokken?
will you be dreaming about me also?

2/5/2007 12:29:32 PM

2/5/2007 12:39:20 PM

yet youre staying away from that thread like a little bitch.

This isnt shit chat you little chump. Claiming 'ownage' just makes you look like a fag.

By the way, what are you trying to acomplish by changing the first letter in my username? You cant even pronounce it, what a tool bag.

hahaha in my head?? youre the shitbird that came at me when i wasnt even talking to you. I must have smacked you around in a sports talk thread without even realizing you were there. I mean its like i fucked your mom by saying we didnt dominate UNC.

Get a life buddy.

[Edited on February 5, 2007 at 12:43 PM. Reason : *]

V now if youre looking for a toolbag and fag post stalker, just refer to sober. he is nothing but a post stalking faggot.

Anymore fun pics you want to post sober?

[Edited on February 5, 2007 at 12:43 PM. Reason : *]

2/5/2007 12:40:54 PM

speaking of tool bags and fags, hows world of warcraft coming along?

2/5/2007 12:42:13 PM

Quote :

"yet youre staying away from that thread like a little bitch"

tokken, i quit reading after that sentence.

im done with thread, won my point and nothing else to add

i, unlike you, can let things go and accept defeat

if i have nothing else to add, except making you look worse....which you do a great job without my help / so, its not worth me padding on a done deal

you know....

so why you try to come up with a witty comment, just remember this.....

im not going to read it b/c i dont care

2/5/2007 12:47:19 PM

Quote :

"Actually Herb had a better record against UNC than Jimmy Valvano did, and I know how much of a God he is to the Herb haters"

Sid beat Roy, Herb never beat Roy

hell Herb can't beat fucking anybody in the Pac-10

was Arizona State this bad last year? I thought Sendek was supposed to win MORE games than last year for ASU?

2/5/2007 12:48:54 PM

they were worse last year...look for ASU to be a lot better next year when the duke transfer gets on the floor and his recruits land

2/5/2007 12:50:26 PM

Quote :

"im not going to read it b/c i dont care"

This made me laugh out loud for real.

I really must have pwnt you some time before. I respond to someone elses post, and not even antagonistically, and you come out of the woodwork calling me a fag and saying ive always been a joke in sports talk.

youre a loser. you obviously stalk my posts. youre a chump. you care.

2/5/2007 12:51:29 PM

^^did they start worse than 0-11 or whatever last year? they have 6 total wins...how bad were they last year?

2/5/2007 1:01:12 PM