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12/11/2006 5:05:23 PM

I wonder how many Heat fans were like "NO! Don't get rid of Odom and others! For Shaq? That washed up fool? He's done! We'll never win a championship!"

12/11/2006 5:05:26 PM

are we even seriously considering this

I mean are the Bobcats even a player?

or is this just TWW talk?

i really wish AI would come here

12/11/2006 5:08:18 PM

well they are definitely a player, but the pessimistic side of me that knows BB's style refuses to believe anything will come of this.

12/11/2006 5:17:48 PM

BJ's and MJ's Money >>>>>>>>>>>>> BB's Style

12/11/2006 5:18:24 PM

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"or is this just TWW talk"

12/11/2006 5:23:01 PM

nah, been mentioned on espn alot as well

12/11/2006 6:04:24 PM

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"Dallas also could offer a package starting with two expiring contracts (Jerry Stackhouse and Austin Croshere), as could New Orleans (Desmond Mason and Marc Jackson add up to almost $13 million), while the Charlotte Bobcats are far enough under the salary cap to take back Iverson in a trade in which the salaries would not have to even come close to matching."

i loled at that

12/11/2006 6:55:24 PM

DO IT, COME ON

12/11/2006 10:28:03 PM

i cant read that bolded part

i just dont know enough about contract stuff to understand it

12/11/2006 10:29:45 PM

come onnnnnnnnnnnnn, come onnnnnnnnnnnnn

12/11/2006 10:29:52 PM

the Bobcats are like 17 million under the cap

and iverson is making about 14 million

we dont have to worry about getting him and going over our cap and it reduced the lux. tax philly has to pay for being over

12/11/2006 10:31:30 PM

start calling up bobcats peoples!!1!

12/11/2006 10:45:14 PM

looks like its not gonna happen

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/16217601.htm

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"Iverson killed possible trade to Bobcats, sources tell Philadelphia Inquirer By David Aldridge The Philadelphia Inquirer (MCT) PHILADELPHIA - For a while Monday, the 76ers were close to solving their Allen Iverson problem. The Sixers, according to a source, were close to sending Iverson to the Charlotte Bobcats for a package of players Monday afternoon. But Iverson indicated his displeasure with being sent to the Bobcats - the league's newest team, having begun play in 2004 - and the deal died, the source said. Iverson asked to be traded last week, and a source indicated that he didn't care where he was sent. But that apparently did not extend to the Bobcats, who are struggling to draw fans, and who would have difficulty bringing someone to Charlotte who didn't want to be there, and who would likely make that unhappiness known to the public. With only a little more than $38 million in player salaries - forward Gerald Wallace is the team's highest-paid player, at just $5.5 million this season - Charlotte is about $15 million below the league's salary cap of $53.1 million and could make a major player acquisition easier than any team in the league. The Bobcats also have players with short contracts, which fits the Sixers' desires. Philadelphia wants to trade Iverson for players whose deals expire either this season or after the 2007-08 season, when Chris Webber's contract ends and the Sixers expect to finally get under the salary cap. Charlotte has a few players who fill that bill: veteran guard Brevin Knight, who makes $4.4 million this season on a contract that expires in 2008; forward Melvin Ely, whose $3.3 million contract ends after this season; forward Othella Harrington (2008, $2.2 million this season); and underrated center Primoz Brezec (2008, $2.75 million this season). Dealing any or all of those players would not affect the Bobcats' core group: guard Raymond Felton, guard Adam Morrison, forward Sean May or center Emeka Okafor. The 24-year-old Wallace, who has become a much-improved player in Charlotte, would be attractive to the Sixers, but he's also part of that core. At least one team believed the Bobcats were in the driver's seat earlier Monday. "It's Michael (Jordan)'s deal to turn down," said an executive of one team that is involved in the trade discussions, referring to Charlotte's new minority owner. It is uncertain whether the proposed trade can be resurrected. Meanwhile, Sixers president Billy King continues to sift through other offers. He's keeping those offers extremely close to the vest. One longtime friend of King's, with an NBA team, said King "wasn't telling me a . . . thing" about which way he was thinking. Sources indicate that Indiana, Boston and Minnesota continue to express interest in Iverson, with Denver and Sacramento also in the mix. But in some cases, King would likely have to take a player he wouldn't necessarily want in order to get rid of Iverson. The Pacers, for example, want to rid themselves of swingman Stephen Jackson, who has three years left on his deal. The Timberwolves are shopping guard Ricky Davis. The Kings seem to be stronger players in the bidding for Iverson than one would think at first glance. A source said Sacramento was discussing a package including guard Mike Bibby and forward Kenny Thomas for Iverson. Each has connections to Webber: Bibby and Webber led the Kings to the Western Conference finals in 2002; Thomas was part of the package the Sixers traded to Sacramento for Webber in 2005. But Thomas' contract, which King negotiated, does not expire until after the 2008-09 season."

12/12/2006 2:10:44 AM

i knew something like that would happen

12/12/2006 2:35:26 AM

I would expect Iverson to want to go to a team where he can win a ring in the next year or two and not have to wait til he's retirement age. That's why teams like the Bobcats are out.

12/12/2006 3:05:29 AM

i wanted him just to see his intro on the news 14 telecast

12/12/2006 3:32:40 AM

ALLen IVErson

POINT guard


CHARlotte BOBcats

12/12/2006 4:17:15 AM

thats some NC State shit right there.

12/12/2006 8:46:50 AM

fuck him for not wanting to come here

12/12/2006 10:53:45 AM

I wouldnt want to play for charlotte either. THey are a fucking joke.

12/12/2006 10:59:54 AM

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"fuck him for not wanting to come here"

He has finally come to the realization that he's won all sorts of individual awards, but never a championship.

he wants to finish up his career with a championship, would you see that happening with the bobcats in the next 2 years?

neither does he.

12/12/2006 11:13:11 AM

why would the kings want to trade mike bibby for iverson? Geoff Petrie needs to choke-hold the Maloofs and they need to let him do his job, because I am certain that he would not want to make this deal, but the Maloofs probably want to.

12/12/2006 11:45:44 AM

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"why would the kings want to trade mike bibby for iverson?"

because Iverson is better than Bibby? Because other teams are actually aware of Kevin Martin now?

12/12/2006 11:57:03 AM

^right. but the kings would be better off finding a big man than iverson. if iverson comes around, kevin martin's numbers drop, and the win-loss column still hovers around .500. i just don't think it's a good deal

12/12/2006 11:58:34 AM

i think iverson could make about any team better...granted if he went to miami or somewhere there could be some conflicts with d wade...but i would certainly trade bibby for AI...and yes the Kings definitely need a big man...hell before B Miller came back from injury they had friggin 6'9" shareef abdur rahim playing center...i'd still trade bibby for AI though

12/12/2006 12:01:49 PM

good lord who wouldnt trade bibby for iverson?


Iverson could jumpstart that team. He's a better passer and scorer than Bibby.


And he's a SHITLOAD quicker than Bibby.

12/12/2006 1:48:15 PM

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"the kings would be better off finding a big man than iverson."

FINALLY!!! As a die-hard Kings fan, I want to shake your hand mls09. Still, I would love to have A.I., but getting rid of Bibby is something I wouldn't do. I would get rid of Kenny Thomas, Francisco Garcia, and a first-rounder to get him. I don't know if the salaries match up, but it would be great to have him come to Sacramento.

Still though, we need a shot-blocking, rebounding big man b/c Brad Miller isn't that.

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 2:25 PM. Reason : Go Kings]

12/12/2006 2:24:26 PM

allen iverson will never win a championship

mark my words

12/12/2006 2:41:53 PM

^^ theres no fucking way Philly would do that.

They want young talent and expiring salaries not garbage...



^ way to go out on a limb... pick a player at the end of his career thats on an awful team and say he wont win a championship... he won an NBA finals game with a bad team. The guy is a great basketball player. 6'0 guys cant just will themselves a championship they have to have a lot of help. Jason Kidd never won a championship, was he not good enough either? If the Nets had done the Tony Parker for J.Kidd deal that the Spurs pushed for so hard he would have...

12/12/2006 2:50:04 PM

if we got iverson and a new coach right now, i think the bobcats would be able to contend for a playoff spot this season.

12/12/2006 2:51:11 PM

he doesn't want to go to charlotte

have you read the front page of http://www.espn.com

12/12/2006 3:20:22 PM

yea, everybody should know that by now, since i posted an article about it half a page up.

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 3:21 PM. Reason : .]

12/12/2006 3:21:11 PM

nm

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 3:22 PM. Reason : nm]

12/12/2006 3:21:58 PM

^^ then why are you still playing with the idea of him coming to charlotte

it isnt going to happen.

12/12/2006 3:27:45 PM

because its sports talk.

also, i was addressing iverson's concerns about playing for the bobcats. he wants to play for a contender, but if we had him and a coach, i feel we would be a contender. i hope this clears things up for you.

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 3:33 PM. Reason : .]

12/12/2006 3:30:44 PM

you are dillusional if you think the bobcats would be a contender with iverson

they might contend to get themselves out of last place in the league but thats about it

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 3:34 PM. Reason : ]

12/12/2006 3:34:27 PM

a contender for the playoffs. can you look at the east and really think the top 8 teams are so clear cut that the bobcats with iverson and a new coach COULDNT make it? if so, i'm afraid you're dillusional.

12/12/2006 3:35:47 PM

they are tied for last place in the league jack ass

get a grip on reality

it would take a miracle and last time i checked iverson isn't able to perform those

12/12/2006 3:38:22 PM

the conference is horrible...who cares what place they are in when they're only 4 games out of the 8th spot with 62 games left to play.

a 4 game comeback over 62 games is hardly a miracle.

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 3:41 PM. Reason : .]

12/12/2006 3:40:50 PM

want to bet on it?

12/12/2006 3:42:15 PM

i dont think we can bet on a hypothetic situation, but i feel pretty confident that this team with a go-to scorer and a coach who knows what he's doing could get at least the 8th seed this season.

unfortunately, as you pointed out, not only will iverson not come to charlotte, but bickerstaff wouldnt step down mid-season.

12/12/2006 3:44:00 PM

Easily could be in contention for a playoff spot with Iverson. A capable point guard and power in the post to go along with his scoring? How could they not be in contention in the shitty east.

I still think this team is set up perfectly for him, just wish he'd see it.

12/12/2006 4:33:37 PM

You're nuts if you dont think we'd likely be a playoff team with Allen Iverson.

He's one the elite scorers in the game and we've actually got a pretty good supporting cast.

The only thing we really lack is a scorer which is exactly what AI brings to the table.

12/12/2006 4:38:19 PM

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"allen iverson will never win a championship mark my words"

you probably would've said that about Gary Payton before he went to Miami

12/12/2006 4:38:25 PM

supposedly, now the Kings don't want to trade for AI.

why hasn't this been mentioned anywhere yet? Go ahead and ship his ass to Portland.

Trade one of their 1strounders (roy, more likely aldridge or webster) and some other scrub player or two with an expriring contract. Deal done. Iverson would fit in well with the Blazers.

12/12/2006 6:21:30 PM

Except that the community of Portland pretty much gave up on the basketball team during those Jailblazer days.

12/12/2006 6:29:55 PM

actually the blazers definitely have the young talent and the expiring contracts to get it done im surprised i havent heard much about them.

I doubt they want to move Roy or Aldridge but i could definitely see them going with Webster and an expiring deal. maybe theyd need to give a 1st rounder too. That would be a pretty good deal for them in my estimation.

Jack/Iverson/Roy/Randolph/Aldridge thats a very competitive lineup next season

12/12/2006 7:21:56 PM

^And Juan Dixon for a 6th man.

12/12/2006 8:06:50 PM

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"you probably would've said that about Gary Payton before he went to Miami"

lol...this honky gonna compare gary payton to allen iverson


[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 8:11 PM. Reason : more politically correct]

12/12/2006 8:08:10 PM