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bgmims
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Jewtroll, lol

Don't try to cross the bridge with the jewtroll, they don't negotiate lower tolls.

1/16/2007 2:22:09 PM

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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

1/16/2007 2:24:36 PM

MrNiceGuy7
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^^gg

1/16/2007 4:54:38 PM

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Do you think they've already effectively declared war on Iran? After Jeorge Boosh's speech and the raid on the Iranian liaison office in Iraq, I think that may be the case. And now Iran has apparantly shot down an unmanned U.S. spy aircraft. The U.S. seems to be provoking Iran at this point.

But I think it will come down to lies about Iran "supporting the insurgency" and "supplying equipment and IEDs to Iraq", etc.

1/17/2007 12:36:57 PM

bgmims
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^Links or it never happened.

1/17/2007 12:42:50 PM

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"And now Iran has apparantly shot down an unmanned U.S. spy aircraft. The U.S. seems to be provoking Iran at this point"


apparently that seems to be the case

according to you with no sources to back up your claims

1/17/2007 12:47:19 PM

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http://english.people.com.cn/200701/16/eng20070116_341802.html

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"Iranian troops shoot down U.S. spy drone: report

January 16, 2007

Iranian troops have shot down a U.S. pilotless spy plane, local Fars News Agency reported on Tuesday.

The aircraft was brought down when it was trying to cross the borders "during the last few days," Seyed Nezam Mola Hoveizeh, a member of the Iranian parliament, was quoted as saying.

The lawmaker gave no exact date of the shot-down or any other details about the incident, but said that "the United States sent such spy drones to the region every now and then."
"

1/17/2007 1:01:41 PM

Mr. Joshua
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^ What does that have to do with zionists?

1/17/2007 3:17:33 PM

bgmims
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Who do you think controls our un-manned spy planes? It is the Jews. They are not men, but beasts, so you know they are the ones on the planes.

1/17/2007 3:43:14 PM

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http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/01/16/whats_next____war_with_iran/

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"What's next -- war with Iran?

By H.D.S. Greenway | January 16, 2007


[...]

The American Jewish Committee took out a full page ad in The New York Times showing Iran in the center of concentric circles, including all the Middle East and beyond, asking: "Can anyone within range of Iran's missiles feel safe?"

[...]

And recently The Times of London carried an article -- quickly denied in Jerusalem -- that Israel has a secret plan to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities by using a low-yield nuclear weapons, about "one fifteenth of the Hiroshima bomb."

The Times quoted Israeli military sources as saying that, unlike Iraq's Osirak nuclear facility, which the Israelis destroyed by air in 1981, the Iranian sites were too well protected to destroy with conventional bombs. The Israeli Air Force has been making practice runs far out into the Mediterranean, according to The Times. It quoted an unnamed official as saying "as soon as the green light is given, it will be one mission, one strike and the Iranian nuclear project will be demolished."

The Israeli foreign office dismissed the report as "absurd," and said that Israel was 100 percent behind the diplomatic efforts to persuade Iran to give up nuclear ambitions. Are such reports sheer nonsense? Or just contingency plans? Or perhaps leaks designed to dismantle the plan? Or leaks designed to put more pressure on Iran -- or perhaps to put pressure on the United States to get serious? One doesn't know, but Cheney long ago said that perhaps the Israelis will one day act on their own, which sounded suspiciously like a green light."


Israel to U.S.: "go attack Iran for us or we'll use nukes on Iran"

Blackmail by threat of using nuclear weapons. Nice.


[Edited on January 18, 2007 at 11:53 AM. Reason : ``]

1/18/2007 11:49:49 AM

TreeTwista10
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good i hope they are successful

i've got the zionists back...salisburyboy you will be murdered since you denounce their powers

1/18/2007 11:52:50 AM

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Flashback:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/03/AR2006100301577_pf.html

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"British Find No Evidence Of Arms Traffic From Iran

Troops in Southeast Iraq Test U.S. Claim of Aid for Militias

By Ellen Knickmeyer
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, October 4, 2006; A21

ON THE IRAQ-IRAN BORDER -- Since late August, British commandos in the deserts of far southeastern Iraq have been testing one of the most serious charges leveled by the United States against Iran: that Iran is secretly supplying weapons, parts, funding and training for attacks on U.S.-led forces in Iraq.

A few hundred British troops living out of nothing more than their cut-down Land Rovers and light armored vehicles have taken to the desert in the start of what British officers said would be months of patrols aimed at finding the illicit weapons trafficking from Iran, or any sign of it.

There's just one thing.

"I suspect there's nothing out there," the commander, Lt. Col. David Labouchere, said last month, speaking at an overnight camp near the border. "And I intend to prove it."

Other senior British military leaders spoke as explicitly in interviews over the previous two months. Britain, whose forces have had responsibility for security in southeastern Iraq since the war began, has found nothing to support the Americans' contention that Iran is providing weapons and training in Iraq, several senior military officials said.

"I have not myself seen any evidence -- and I don't think any evidence exists -- of government-supported or instigated" armed support on Iran's part in Iraq, British Defense Secretary Des Browne said in an interview in Baghdad in late August.
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1/18/2007 12:44:13 PM

guth
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stop copying my posting style, i do the flashback thing (see previous page)

1/18/2007 1:18:02 PM

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I have an idea JonHGuth. Why don't you tell us how it's NOT the Jewish elite, Israel, and the "Israeli Lobby" who are primarily pushing the U.S. to attack Iran.

You know....a rational, logical, and serious discussion.

Wait...that's right...you'd rather just troll, spam, and try to prevent a serious discussion from occuring.

1/18/2007 2:06:00 PM

Mr. Joshua
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I still want to know what the downing of a spy drone has to do with zionists.

1/18/2007 2:23:19 PM

brianj320
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the Zionists designed, built, and operated the drone

1/18/2007 2:31:47 PM

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i agree with you on the zionist problem, im just mad that you stole my posting style that i posted first

1/18/2007 2:38:36 PM

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"You know....a rational, logical, and serious discussion.

Wait...that's right...you'd rather just troll, spam, and try to prevent a serious discussion from occuring."


comments like that always make me lol

1/18/2007 2:40:39 PM

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US feverishly works to frame Iran
http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com/2006/05/us-feverishly-works-to-frame-iran_13.html


http://english.people.com.cn/200605/13/eng20060513_265252.html

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"U.S. rejects Annan's call for direct talks with Iran

May 13, 2006

The United States rejected on Friday UN chief Kofi Annan's call for direct talks over nuclear issues with Iran, accusing Tehran of having "refused to engage in a constructive and serious manner.""


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"So let me get this straight: a letter, directly from the President of Iran to the President of the United States is a refusal 'to engage in a constructive and serious manner'? The letter that was rejected by Secretary Rice before she'd even had a translation of it completed?

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/"



I guess the time for diplomacy is already up. My, that was fast. Time to attack! Get them Aaarabs!! They's tryin to get nookular weapons!

1/18/2007 2:42:58 PM

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AIPAC is pushing us to war with Iran for Israel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nch43wy8Zb8

1/19/2007 12:35:00 PM

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^^they are already going after the arabs...this thread is about going after the persians. I mean they don't even speak the same language as arabs FYI

1/19/2007 12:46:12 PM

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Lost in translation: Experts confirm that Iran's president did not call for Israel to be 'wiped off the map'.
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/jonathan_steele/2006/06/post_155.html

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"Farsi speakers have pointed out that he was mistranslated. The Iranian president was quoting an ancient statement by Iran's first Islamist leader, the late Ayatollah Khomeini, that "this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time" just as the Shah's regime in Iran had vanished. "


Ahmadinejad misquoted: did NOT say Israel should be wiped off the map
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=5866

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"Before we get to the infamous remark, it's important to note that the "quote" in question was itself a quote— they are the words of the late Ayatollah Khomeini, the father of the Islamic Revolution. Although he quoted Khomeini to affirm his own position on Zionism, the actual words belong to Khomeini and not Ahmadinejad. Thus, Ahmadinejad has essentially been credited (or blamed) for a quote that is not only unoriginal, but represents a viewpoint already in place well before he ever took office.


THE ACTUAL QUOTE:

So what did Ahmadinejad actually say? To quote his exact words in farsi:

"Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad."

That passage will mean nothing to most people, but one word might ring a bell: rezhim-e. It is the word "Regime", pronounced just like the English word with an extra "eh" sound at the end. Ahmadinejad did not refer to Israel the country or Israel the land mass, but the Israeli regime. This is a vastly significant distinction, as one cannot wipe a regime off the map. Ahmadinejad does not even refer to Israel by name, he instead uses the specific phrase "rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods" (regime occupying Jerusalem).

So this raises the question.. what exactly did he want "wiped from the map"? The answer is: nothing. That's because the word "map" was never used. The Persian word for map, "nagsheh", is not contained anywhere in his original farsi quote, or, for that matter, anywhere in his entire speech. Nor was the western phrase "wipe out" ever said. Yet we are led to believe that Iran's President threatened to "wipe Israel off the map", despite never having uttered the words "map", "wipe out" or even "Israel".


THE PROOF:

The full quote translated directly to English:

"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time".

Word by word translation:

Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from)."



[Edited on January 19, 2007 at 1:00 PM. Reason : ``]

1/19/2007 12:58:54 PM

Mr. Joshua
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So it was the zionists that misquoted him?

1/19/2007 2:02:07 PM

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"Lost in translation: Experts confirm that Iran's president did not call for Israel to be 'wiped off the map'.
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/jonathan_steele/2006/06/post_155.html
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those expert london bloggers!

1/19/2007 2:21:37 PM

Golovko
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^^more than likely...its called propoganda

1/19/2007 3:02:18 PM

Mr. Joshua
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Then lets see some proof instead of MISQUOTED?!?! OMFG ZIONISTS!!!

By the way, thanks for keeping my nuts warm golovko.

1/19/2007 3:11:43 PM

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it was grossly misquoted. I have seen a few websites that I would consider a good source of indpenednet info. I don't knwo where they are right now, but whatever. i find it really sad how the media has painted such a bad image of ahmadinejad and most of it comes outright lies about things the man has said and done.

1/19/2007 3:36:47 PM

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"i find it really sad how the media has painted such a bad image of ahmadinejad and most of it comes outright lies about things the man has said and done."


wow

so he didnt say any of these things? are these all fake quotes?

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"Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury"

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"As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map"

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"They have invented a myth that Jews were massacred and place this above God, religions and the prophets"

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"The real Holocaust is what is happening in Palestine where the Zionists avail themselves of the fairy tale of Holocaust as blackmail and justification for killing children and women and making innocent people homeless."

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"[There is] no significant need for the United States."

1/19/2007 3:45:16 PM

Golovko
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"By the way, thanks for keeping my nuts warm golovko."


some how i think you have mistaken me for your mother.

if anyone comments on what you say...you attack them personally or try to come up with some elemantry school comback because you can't think of anything else to say. It would be best if you just stopped posting unless it pretains to the discussion.

[Edited on January 19, 2007 at 4:06 PM. Reason : fda]

1/19/2007 4:05:13 PM

Mr. Joshua
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no, i said that because you post stalk me and talk shit while adding nothing to the discussion

follow your own advice, sweet pea

1/19/2007 4:09:20 PM

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"^^more than likely...its called propoganda"


if you took that as talking shit and adding nothing to the discussion, sweetie pie, then it is you riding my nutz

because anyone or group of people in power is capable of propoganda. Its one of the most powerful tactics throughout history.

and i don't post stalk you either...since the only threads i post in that you post in is this one and a few others that are on a topic i'm interested in. i.e. the middle east

[Edited on January 19, 2007 at 4:17 PM. Reason : fda]

1/19/2007 4:16:34 PM

Mr. Joshua
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As I said before:

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"Then lets see some proof instead of MISQUOTED?!?! OMFG ZIONISTS!!!"


follow your own advice, sweet pea

1/19/2007 4:17:59 PM

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the 'proof' has already been presented...with the mistranslated speeches.

and again...since when have you proven anything from what you say? the very rare times you actually post something other than OMFG zionists! or something dumb along those lines

[Edited on January 19, 2007 at 4:20 PM. Reason : fda]

1/19/2007 4:19:22 PM

Mr. Joshua
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Prove that zionists are behind the mistranslation, brainiac.

1/19/2007 4:20:09 PM

Golovko
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prove that they aren't.

1/19/2007 4:20:27 PM

Mr. Joshua
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While that is a strikingly brilliant response, the simple truth is that you're defending a baseless claim by assuming that a mistranslation is "propoganda".

You have the burden of proof to deal with.

1/19/2007 4:24:27 PM

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"Mr. Joshua:

"no, i said that because you post stalk me and talk shit while adding nothing to the discussion
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LOL

"The Pot Calling The Kettle Black"??

That is an exact description of what Mr. Joshua does to me and others.

1/19/2007 4:29:15 PM

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especially you

since all your threads are generally batshit theories that favor a few kids' blogs instead of engineers' expertise

1/19/2007 4:30:34 PM

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"Mr. Joshua:

"Prove that zionists are behind the mistranslation, brainiac.
"


Remind us again who it is that controls the mainstream media and press in the U.S. and much of the western world? I'll give you a hint. It's the same people that control Hollywood and are responsible for producing most of the shows on the tube.




[Edited on January 19, 2007 at 4:34 PM. Reason : ``]

1/19/2007 4:32:29 PM

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twista to answer you:

NO.
NO.
NO.
YES.
YES.

1/19/2007 4:41:19 PM

Mr. Joshua
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""The Pot Calling The Kettle Black"??

That is an exact description of what Mr. Joshua does to me and others."


Once again, salisburyboy, the champion of intelligent discussion has resorted to slandering those who question him. I have simply tried to discuss your ideas with you. Thus far you have proven incapable of defending them.

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"Remind us again who it is that controls the mainstream media and press in the U.S. and much of the western world?"


If you want people to believe that the zionists control all media you will have to prove it as fact. Simply assuming that something is true because it fits in with your conspiratorial world view is a logical fallacy that plagues every single one of your assumptions.

1/19/2007 5:09:38 PM

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how about you stop being a lazy prick and do your own damn research. find out who the top guys are behind each major network...and then post back here with their jewish names. We already know it...its not my job or anyone elses job to convince you of anything, we aren't running an election here. If you want to live in ignorance, thats your sad fate.

1/19/2007 5:14:11 PM

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let's see. viacom board of directors:

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" Sumner M. Redstone
Executive Chairman of the Board and Founder

Shari Redstone
Non-Executive Vice Chair of the Board

George S. Abrams

Philippe P. Dauman
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thomas E. Dooley
Senior Executive Vice President, Chief Administrative Officer and Chief Financial Officer

Ellen V. Futter

Alan C. Greenberg

Robert K. Kraft (1) (3)

Charles E. Phillips, Jr. (2)

Frederic V. Salerno (1) (2) (3)

William Schwartz (1) (2) (3)

"


how about NBC?

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"Robert C. Wright

Vice Chairman and Executive Officer, General Electric Company;
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, NBC Universal
Director since 2000."


what about newscorp?

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" Rupert Murdoch, CEO and Chairman
Peter Chernin, COO
David DeVoe, CFO"


i just don't see it. maybe i'm just not familiar with jew names

1/19/2007 5:23:22 PM

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but the biggest zionists are the non jews, therefore the names dont matter at all. right?

1/19/2007 5:56:37 PM

Golovko
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uhh...i see a lot of jewish names...

1/19/2007 5:58:51 PM

Mr. Joshua
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"how about you stop being a lazy prick and do your own damn research."


I already have many times.

Thus far I have yet to see anything that would support the contention that the media is controlled by zionists.

At one point I even followed some of salisburyboys links on the subjects and found information that was blatantly wrong (such as the statement that Rupert Murdoch is jewish).

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"find out who the top guys are behind each major network...and then post back here with their jewish names."


Yes, heaven forbid that someone actually present a radical idea and then support it with evidence.

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"If you want to live in ignorance, thats your sad fate."


I'm ignorant for not immediately believing everything that strangers post on the internet? My bad. You're clearly the fountain of wisdom that I should turn to in such matters.

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"uhh...i see a lot of jewish names..."


Two jews on the board at NBC? How does that constitute control of all media?

Of course, the parent company of NBC is GE, which has zero jewish names on the board.

[Edited on January 19, 2007 at 6:11 PM. Reason : .]

1/19/2007 6:04:41 PM

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http://www.gulfnews.com/region/Iran/10098195.html

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"US plans attack on Iran

January 20, 2007

Washington & Tehran: US contingency planning for military action against Iran's nuclear programme goes beyond limited strikes and would effectively unleash a war against the country, a former US intelligence analyst said on Friday.

"I've seen some of the planning ... You're not talking about a surgical strike," said Wayne White, who was a top Middle East analyst for the State Department's bureau of intelligence and research until March 2005.

"You're talking about a war against Iran" that likely would destabilise the Middle East for years, White told the Middle East Policy Council, a Washington think tank.

"We're not talking about just surgical strikes against an array of targets inside Iran. We're talking about clearing a path to the targets" by taking out much of the Iranian Air Force, Kilo submarines, anti-ship missiles that could target commerce or US warships in the Gulf, and maybe even Iran's ballistic missile capability, White said."


A full-scale war instead of surgical strikes?...likely would "destablize the Middle East for years"?

Well that's the goal....inflaming and destabilizing the region...widening the war...war for years and decades to come.

1/22/2007 12:13:02 PM

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Good...all out war...fuck Iran...Zionists 4 Life!

1/22/2007 12:13:56 PM

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"TreeTwista10:

"Good...all out war...fuck Iran...Zionists 4 Life!"


TreeTwista10, I hear the military could use your help...

http://www.goarmy.com/contact/how_to_join.jsp?hmref=cs

1/22/2007 12:15:42 PM

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I hear the crazy house has a room for you

http://www.ncdhhs.gov/mhddsas/DIX/

1/22/2007 12:17:41 PM

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