sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on February 12, 2007 at 1:15 PM. Reason : hallucinations]
2/12/2007 1:12:20 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
If you don't realize why people respond to you the way they do, you're pretty dense.
Hint: it has nothing to do with your stace so much as it's the way you present it. The second someone questions why it's important or questions your reasoning, you fly off the handle and act like a fool. That's why people stopped responding to you seriously. You don't like to listen. I mean, that's why I first busted on you. You refuse to take seriously any opposing views. 2/12/2007 2:11:58 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
man, i just love it.
all those country music fans can just sit around eating their "Freedom Fries", and never have to listen to the Dixie Chicks again.
"Whut?? Is that the Honkytonk Badonkadonk?? Shiiiiiit, turn that up, Bo!" 2/12/2007 4:25:19 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""I think people are using their freedom of speech with all these awards. We get the message," said Maines, paying tribute to other nominees with an oblique acknowledgement that the group was being honored as much for its stand as its music. "I'm very humbled."" |
http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/02/11/grammy.awards/index.html
I have no problem with what they said - it just bothers me that they never said it during a single one of their US concerts. I wasn't aware that people could get awards simply for pandering to their audience while overseas.2/12/2007 5:00:37 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
afaik, they only said it once during a concert in england. it was an off the cuff remark, no doubt prompted by a bunch of people asking them "So, you guys are from Texas? Do you support what George Bush is doing?"
that one event not only caused all of corporate-owned country music stations to blacklist them, but what remains of the independent stations drank the kool-aid as well. 2/12/2007 5:54:46 PM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
is it "drinking the Kool Aid" as you say
or that a lot of country fans and maybe even people from texas found it offensive because they supported something that was bigger than the president?
two sides to every story
I don't really care for them now or then... although once in a while I'll listen to something off their first album 2/12/2007 5:59:15 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
"stace" 2/12/2007 6:39:55 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "prompted by a bunch of people asking them "So, you guys are from Texas? Do you support what George Bush is doing?"" |
She threw it out between songs to get some cheers from the crowd.2/12/2007 7:12:59 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
^ huh?
im saying that it was an off the cuff remark. that the issue was on their mind, because travelling across the atlantic, they get asked that question alot in general. not because someone in the crowd asked them that during the concert. I'm not as dumb as you look. 2/12/2007 7:40:01 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
So no one ever asked for their opinion in the US, so they never mentioned it to their primarily conservative audience at an American show? Wow.
She was pandering to her British audience. You're blind if you can't see that. 2/12/2007 7:51:46 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
State409c, you are not exactly a spring chicken on this board.....(from page 1 last comment) 2/12/2007 8:08:34 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, the anti-Bush remarks were made in England, a country our patriots fought and died to be free from. Did that fact ever occur to you defenders of the Dixie Chicks? In addition, the Dixie Chicks' Grammy performance was introduced by '60s peacenik and well-known liberal Joan Baez (but I'm sure many of you don't know who in hell she is). No statement there either.
^ Indeed. 2/12/2007 9:00:25 PM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
illegal wiretapping, lying to start a war, refusing to fully fund body armor for troops and the veterans administration. all of those are a lot more destructive to this country than saying you are embarrassed to be from the same state as someone. 2/12/2007 9:45:22 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^ I've said it before--and I'll say it again--the Bush administration has done MANY things that I strongly disagree with. But in the two-party system, you get, well, two choices: either and or. In addition, there's another problem with the two-party system: the inevitably polarized sides usually get to a point that neither can give an inch in discourse or policy. It's called gridlock. 2/12/2007 10:10:15 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
Oh noes, not peaceniks. 2/12/2007 10:50:28 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Once again:
Quote : | "I think the Academy was making a bit of a statement by having [Dixie Chicks] win everything." |
Chad Smith, Red Hot Chili Peppers, CBS Morning News, February 12, 20072/12/2007 11:00:47 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on February 12, 2007 at 11:03 PM. Reason : .]
2/12/2007 11:01:06 PM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the anti-Bush remarks were made in England, a country our patriots fought and died to be free from. Did that fact ever occur to you defenders of the Dixie Chicks?" |
only the rednecks flying the rebel flag still think of england as an enemy in any situation like that.2/13/2007 8:09:03 AM |
wolfpack1100 All American 4390 Posts user info edit post |
^^Its not a fact that England is a enemy. They are not the enemy everyone knows that. When you say something like that in England or anywhere else other than America your opening yourself up like they did. They are not that great of a group look at country stars that say what they want and are respected for it. Kris Kristopherson, Johhny Cash, Hank Jr. if you are a great singer and you are respected then people will listen to you. If your the pop group of country like the dixie chicks were then you have no real support. The grammy's always give awads to who they want no to who deserves them. 2/13/2007 8:43:46 AM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
i pretty much agree with this guy http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/statusainthood/archives/2007/02/the_grammy_awar_2.php#more
Quote : | "So the big problem with the Grammys every year is that the show never reflects what actually happened in pop music in the preceding year; it only reflects what the pop music industry wants us to think happened. The artists that do well at the Grammys aren't usually the popular successes or the critical darlings of the previous year; they're the figures who exist at some rarified intersection of middlebrow good-taste preconceptions and commercial dependability. Someone like Norah Jones is a perfect storm for Grammy voters, whereas someone like Eminem will only get his Album of the Year statue when he's fifty and he makes a concept album of Appalachian folk music or something." |
Quote : | "Grammy voters love it when massive pop stars go NPR, and this time they got to make an obliquely anti-Bush statement in the process. I don't want to diminish the Dixie Chicks' courage here, but it seems to me that the Grammys' decision to award this group everything is just as cynical and politically motivated as the CMAs' decision to shut them out completely. Mostly, though, I'm just glad this thing is finally over." |
2/13/2007 10:39:01 AM |