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2/14/2007 9:37:15 PM

10/10. B.

2/15/2007 1:14:31 AM

look at prufrock, defender of all that is right, blasting everyone who doesnt seem like a 100% nice guy. i especially like the part where he calls the guy a cokehead, that's totally what a nice guy would do. or where he calls the other guy a worm. pretty classy as well. perfect example of "turn the other cheek"

but i guess he really is a nice guy, because the one guy says he is considering suicide at least somewhat, and prufrock makes sure to post here to the guy, so we all see it, that the guy should accept his friend request..

prufrock wants to help! awwww. if you really gave a fuck, you wouldnt be sitting here trying to gain tww cool points by slamming the "mean" kids and helping the "helpless" - you are so transparant it is fucking sickening.

you're the fucking worm. fake motherfucker. i can only hope that i've enraged you enough to have you talk shit about "me" some more

2/15/2007 4:34:16 AM

When are we gonna forget about Stilleto and this suicide shit already? Another day or two? Always happens around here when somebody dies. We all get hot about the issue for a few days and then completely forgot they existed on here.

2/15/2007 8:30:12 AM

You act like no one on here knows anyone else in real life. TWW isn't a wholly digital entity.

2/15/2007 9:07:49 AM

Travis, you are in the minority. Now, go work on being a less miserable human being. It's for your own good.

Enraged, for real? Don't kid yourself T-bag. If I made you that powerful in my life I'd be just as miserable as you are.

I know it seems impossible to someone like you, but there are actually good people in the world. Maybe if you can get with them you can break the cycle of ruining everything worthwhile in your life.

I'm a good guy not a doormat, and no one is perfect.

[Edited on February 15, 2007 at 10:05 AM. Reason : I love how you don't post about me until 'Currently Online?: No'.]

2/15/2007 9:41:16 AM

dur hurrrr i waited till you were offline to post. cause i was.... scared?

nah, i woke up at like 4 this morning, couldnt get back to sleep, had to get up at like 530 anyways. so i gave up on sleeping and went to teh intarnet!!1

ps - i know i give back more to my community than you. i know its hard to outdo a guy who sponsors suicidal kids on the internet, but i manage - and unlike some people, i dont feel the need to post my good deeds here in order to mold other peoples opinion of what kind of person i am.

and contrary to your delusions, nothing is ruined in my world

2/15/2007 11:30:36 AM

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"You act like no one on here knows anyone else in real life. TWW isn't a wholly digital entity."

AMEN

2/15/2007 11:43:48 AM

people actually knew the dead guy IRL ORLY?

what difference does that make? seriously? why don't you think about what that means about the way people act on tww vs in real life?

2/15/2007 1:34:28 PM

why waste time on suicidal losers?

2/15/2007 3:04:29 PM

gtfo

2/15/2007 3:04:53 PM

2^ because we are the nice guys, the people who make great friends because we feel like we have to buy love

and for those of you that feel this way I jumped off a 17 foot platform drunk sept. 2005 (you might have seen me crutching to the UNC football game that year). shrinks and pills don't work. get outside and exercise (this releases beta-endorphins from the brain), try to sleep on a regular schedule, and at least once a day (when you get up outta bed is the best time) think about yourself in five years living the best life you can think of

[Edited on February 15, 2007 at 3:28 PM. Reason : d]

2/15/2007 3:23:06 PM

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"shrinks and pills don't work"

Just because they didn't for you doesn't mean they don't for lots of other people.
Myself included.

The other stuff you mentioned about exercise and sleep is great too.

2/15/2007 3:50:39 PM

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"because we are the nice guys, the people who make great friends because we feel like we have to buy love"

wtf?

2/15/2007 3:55:28 PM

^ well at least in my case (2^) depression has a lot of low self esteem things going on. I don't feel like people like me so I really try to be nice, helpful, and basically a door-mat to anyone that takes an interest. this is why my relationships fail

2/15/2007 7:29:18 PM

bttt

2/19/2007 4:40:17 AM

here's a serious question:

why shouldn't i kill myself?

2/24/2007 6:27:33 AM

Because killing other people is more fun.


(haha, just kidding, really)

2/24/2007 10:20:37 AM

^^ Have you tried Prozac? or some other anti-depressant?

that shit works wonders for a lot of people.

3/1/2007 3:19:09 PM

^^^Still down because of the job problems? Yeah, I felt pretty bad when I worked in retail. It can be hard to build a life at our age, but we have a lot of time to work with. You can probably find something that is good to you.

3/1/2007 3:45:41 PM

i really cant understand why others, especially complete strangers, care so much about people who want to kill themselves

what's so wrong with suicide?

[Edited on March 1, 2007 at 7:39 PM. Reason : .]

3/1/2007 7:38:32 PM

I care because I've been down that road before and I know how it feels.
I want to try and help them feel better if I can

3/1/2007 7:48:16 PM

^^people care because they know what it's like. i know someone who has attempted suicide, and i've thought seriously about it. it is terrifing to have someone close to you attempt it. it also freaked me out when i started to honestly think about it.

things get better. it doesn't seem like, but they will. however, depression is one of those downward spiral things. you have to get out of it and talking to someone who will just listen helps. when i talked to someone at student health for the first time, i cannot begin to tell you how much better i felt. i knew i was finally going to start getting better and being happy again. it was so nice having someone to listen to me and just let me talk and get everything out. someone who somewhat understood what i was going thru and didn't judge me or yell at me because of it. sure, things still suck from time to time, but i'm not as upset as i was this time two years ago.

behavior modification can work wonders. just walking for 30 minutes outside when it's nice can help. get out and do things. that and the combination of meds has helped me. knowing other people going through the same thing has helped as well.

if you want someone to talk to or if you have any questions, send me a pm.

3/1/2007 11:20:47 PM

I'd just advise anyone going through a depression to remember that even after you're out, there are things that you will have to deal with for years to come. No matter what path out you take.

I took meds and they got me out, but the weight gain associated with them will take me at least a year to knock back off.

And don't be afraid to admit it if you're depressed, it can happen to anyone.


That's all I got on this topic.

3/1/2007 11:42:21 PM

^^I'm glad you shared that
that was kinda my experience too

3/2/2007 1:16:10 AM

well in my experience, talking to someone hasn't really helped at all

3/2/2007 5:22:59 AM

I'm the guy who sucks

Plus I got depression

3/2/2007 6:51:17 AM

When I was 14, I was thinking alot about death, the universe, sex. It was scarry and there was no one wise to talk to so I pontificated. My whole family was abusive to me. Even as a military kid with no stable education, school had always been far beneath me. In academics and athletics, I was years ahead. I had always stolen attention out of boredom but as an adolescent, it became less acceptable. I began spending all of my time on the computer playing games and not going to school because I was treated like shit there having no social skills. Eventually, I was uncontrollable even with violence and no one could stop me from messing with computers and reading. My parents got sick of it and sold me to Mental Hospitals. I was diagnosed with depression, bipolar, PTSD, personality disorder, ADHD. From 14 to 18 I was milked for my parent's insurance money by private adolecent centers at around $1000 per day. I was forced to take lots of drugs and suffered lots of side-effects. I was surrounded by other adolescents with myriad problems and disorders I had never even imagined. Nurses were vindictive and I was abused regularly. I actually escaped a few times despite the moderately advanced security only to be captured by police due to my complete lack of street skills. Even as a minor and even though I had been diagnosed with multiple disorders, a Superior Court judge ordered my release. I was simply transferred to another facility. I saw kids commit suicide. Jeremy Duke was admitted to Appalachian Hill and played Backgammon with me. He hung himself with a belt and a door. I have been injected with drugs and left in leather restraints for days. I have been denied education except for being able to pick up National Public Radio. I loved Joe Frank: in the Dark. I have never wanted to die, in fact I spent many years with the sole objective of cheating death. I used to dream of being a super-doctor and curing all diseases and developing bio-technologies for organ replacement... Of the hundreds of kids I got to know very well, about 50 were genuinely and severely depressed. Everyone's insurance eventually ran out and they were cured. I had to stay until adulthood when I aquired the right to go before a Judge, who, of course, released me. What I have to say about depression is that I don't understand it at all. I have seen better than anyone what depression is. I believe current psychiatry is too primitive to make good doctors distinguishable from bad doctors. If you are depressed, I have nothing to offer you. Maybe you'd be better off on drugs? I don't actually care but I really do wish I could help you, honestly. Helping you is one of the rare things worth doing in life and would be a fun challenge. No matter what happens to me, I will be happy to be alive and find gratification in even the smallest freedoms. I will procrastinate about resolving the whole mortality thing because it's a big task and there's no rush.

3/16/2007 12:03:06 AM

damn

3/16/2007 7:17:35 AM

Yeah, wow. Amazing you made it to college.

3/16/2007 8:24:00 AM

Wow what a sad story. Keep proving them wrong

3/16/2007 11:21:42 AM

When i was in high school i was more interested in sex than death. yeah.

3/18/2007 12:59:26 AM

suicide has often seemed like the easy way to get out of problems. you have to remind yourself about theh implications it will have for the people close to you.

[Edited on March 18, 2007 at 1:17 AM. Reason : .]

3/18/2007 1:16:55 AM

i just read a book called Like the Red Panda (a fictional novel) and its about a girl that is graduating from high school in orange county california, got accepted to Princeton, and is planning to kill herself. there is a quote at the end of the book by Seneca (a Roman philosopher):

"the wise man will live as long as he ought, not as long as he can"

and well, I just don't agree with that quote, or maybe I don't agree that the main character justifies suicide with this quote. I mean, I think you definitely OUGHT to keep living if you got into Princeton...

3/19/2007 11:17:18 AM

Wolfram, I like what you had to say. It has inspired me to type shit and then erase it until I give up.

3/20/2007 2:24:19 AM

A close friend of mine just tried this and failed by downing all his antidepressants. He's out of state and his family, who he's always been close with, are with him.

I'm looking into other resources, but what's the way back? Is there a way back? I know a friend of a friend who had always had problems, tried several times, and eventually succeeded. I've read the articles about the Golden Gate jumpers who survived, and instantly regretted their decision, and realized how to change their lives. But other jumpers who just tried again and succeeded.

For some people, their problems are environmental, for others it seems to be more internal.

When I see him my plan is just to be there, but if he asks, it would be nice to give him some tangible stories or info of a way back. My friend is well educated, has a great job, great family, strong group of friends, but has had emotional issues since childhood.

5/4/2014 11:05:07 PM

He won't ask, and now's not the time to broach that stuff anyhow. He might still be very depressed--tired and unfeeling. He may feel embarrassed or ashamed that he worried people. He could be really angry that it didn't work out like he planned.

Just be cool and stuff. Let him know you love him and you're glad he's still around. That's all you gotta do.

5/4/2014 11:52:26 PM

^ thanks, that's my default game plan.

Anyone know of any good books on the aftermath of a failed suicide?

5/5/2014 12:57:02 AM

^^^ I don't have any advice, but you can remind him that you care about him (and maybe let him know that you're worried, but not to the point where he feels toxic or guilty or feels like a charity case.) He might just need a distraction when you see him, a good laugh with a friend. It's cool you're seeing him, good luck to your friend.

I lost my brother to suicide less than a year ago. (No need for the sympathy posts.) After his death, I (finally) got help for myself. Luckily for me, I found the right antidepressant, and I'm finally actually enjoying things. Why didn't I get help for my depression sooner? It's not a rational answer, but: I was depressed.
For me (and my brother,) there was nothing that anybody could say that would help, I think for two reasons:
1) depression was due to brain chemistry and not environment, so it didn't help solve the root of the depression;
2) depression can make you irrational. My brother was in complete denial about his problems, and it was difficult to talk with him about it without him feeling insulted or less-than-normal. While I acknowledged my own depression, and I knew I needed help (medication), I never bothered. Again, no real explanation, other than I didn't care enough (about myself or anything else) to get help. (The difference between then and now is day and night.)
It has taken me over an hour to keep from writing a 10 paragraph post, so I'll just end with a pic. (Feel free to pm if you have questions/want to talk.)
- Apocalypse #3 (not Carl)



[Edited on May 5, 2014 at 2:02 AM. Reason : sea kelp]

5/5/2014 1:58:01 AM

Depression has this uncanny ability to make you think that your current shitty feelings will last forever. Discussions that help take the blinders off and rationally point out that a situation is temporary and can only get better are very useful in at least getting out of the fog at the beginning. Aside from talking, going out and doing fun activities is probably the most helpful distraction in the short-term. Find the reason to live that they may have forgotten or have been unable to see due to the depression and constantly reinforce it. The more people involved the better.

5/5/2014 10:02:48 AM