0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
ahaha, this appeared in the upper right hand corner!
3/29/2007 12:05:58 AM |
MOODY All American 9700 Posts user info edit post |
3/29/2007 12:14:23 AM |
umbrellaman All American 10892 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "When you take topics, and apply them in your work, its not plagiarism. I take a single idea, or subject from works, and use them as a guide, I don't copy, I don't use their words, I use my own. You take the paper, you read it and you throw it away. You never copy words out of it. It's just like taking a book and reading it and writing a book report. You get the ideas from the book, right? Well this is just outside sources that you get IDEAS from, not their thoughts or beliefs, but your own." |
Other people already covered this, but I'll give my $0.02 anyway.
You might not be copying what somebody else wrote word-for-word, but you're still taking the ideas and concepts that somebody else researched and explained and claiming them as your own. Even if you add your own ideas into the mix, your work is still based off of someone else's previous work. Plagiarism is not strictly defined as copying someone else's work verbatim. If you take somebody's paper, copy/paste it, and then move a few paragraphs around and change a few words, that's still plagiarism. You're taking credit for work that you yourself did not actually do. That is the point that everyone else has been trying to explain to you. If you do all of the shit that you say you do and then add a bibliography at the end or somehow denote whose material you borrowed from, then nobody on here would care. But since you've made it crystal clear that this is not what you do and you're stupid enough to admit it and be proud of it, you deserve every last bit of flaming.
Quote : | "You can't tell me that people don't do this every day. I mean journalists take ideas from other papers and books, but turn it into their own work." |
oic, so if other people do it then it must be okay? People commit rape every day, so it must be okay if I come over to your house and rape your mother in the throat.
And so what if journalists do this? And that assumes that your blanket statement can be believed, in spite of the fact that you most likely can't name even one journalist who does this. What's your point? That there are people in the working world who are willing to do unprofessional things? Congratulations, Captain Obvious! But it doesn't change the fact that what they do is unprofessional and frowned upon, nor does that give you license to do it.
Quote : | "Do any of y'all actually think that any of your ideas are completely original?" |
It's not impossible that two people working independently can come to the same conclusion. But nobody's worried about what ideas are yours originally. We're talking about what happens if you borrow someone else's ideas in a paper. If you didn't come up with it on your own, you need to cite it.3/29/2007 12:51:39 AM |
MOODY All American 9700 Posts user info edit post |
i ran into plagiarism in one of my teams this year. three whole pages copied and pasted and the person thought it was permissable if they included the source...that didn't go over so well. we had a big team talk after that. it's even more difficult when you're trying to get others to meet your standards in a team...plagiarism sucks.
i honestly think that a large majority of students really don't understand the full definition of plagiarism...it's not just copying and pasting. 3/29/2007 12:55:03 AM |
Jere Suspended 4838 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This shit ain't nothing compared to senior or sophomore or junior year in a technical major." |
[Edited on March 29, 2007 at 7:28 AM. Reason : ]3/29/2007 7:28:41 AM |
Charybdisjim All American 5486 Posts user info edit post |
^ Tell me about it. 30+ page engineering lab reports, often multiple ones due in the same week along side homeworks and tests is much nastier than a dinky paper on soccer and obesity. This pussy should be expelled. 3/29/2007 8:46:39 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
i hate you cheatin bitches. i've never plagiarized anything since that one science report in 7th grade.
cheaters suck. i would help Paul Cousins rape you.
[Edited on April 3, 2007 at 2:18 AM. Reason : ] 4/3/2007 2:16:15 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
got it on my own paul cousins
4/3/2007 2:28:38 AM |
BEAVERCHEESE All American 1103 Posts user info edit post |
You guys are lazy. Tell you what, why don't you drop out of NC State now and transfer to your local community college 4/3/2007 7:58:12 PM |
Spike All American 2249 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "has anyone ever actually done one of those term paper sites online? ive been looking at a couple. Im not doing it to be lazy, but i literally have 4 papers, 3 assignments, and an exam that i have to work on at, well, the exact same time." |
Awww that's so awful!! It's called college. Grow up and get your shit done. Work your ass off, finish it, and then get trashed and celebrate.4/3/2007 8:15:39 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
123helpme.com 4/4/2007 12:07:25 AM |
virga All American 2019 Posts user info edit post |
i know lets keep discussing this 4/4/2007 12:56:44 AM |
redburn All American 713 Posts user info edit post |
Most of these papers suck. I promise you. And you're a lazy fuck. I've got three papers of 25+ pages apiece, a usability study, and a few thousand pages to read in the next couple of weeks. I also have to teach, and grade, papers that you pull off of a paper mill. I've also got an 11 month old daughter. I will get it all finished, and I won't have to cheat. Time management, as about a dozen posters told you, isn't that difficult. Make a list. Prioritize. Stop posting to message boards when you have no time to do your work.
I'll leave you with this nugget of wisdom from the immortal Full Metal Jacket: "Are you quitting on me? Well, are you? Then quit, you slimy fucking walrus-looking piece of shit. Get the fuck off of my obstacle. Get the fuck down off of my obstacle. Now. Move it. I'm going to rip your balls off, so you cannot contaminate the rest of the world. I will motivate you, Private Pyle, if it short-dicks every cannibal on the Congo." 4/4/2007 4:05:04 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
A friend of mine that used a paper from the link I provided, got a B+ on the paper. She said she traded in one of her old ones and it was determined the quality of that one she turned in was worth the most expensive they had. Hers is still for sale(and is the most expensive regular paper). Anyways, the professor she had was was a hard grader too. 4/5/2007 6:28:49 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
wow, your friend is dumb x2 4/5/2007 6:39:38 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
yo...supppppp
u know i couldnt have done it without you(no homo)! 4/5/2007 6:41:33 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, but she got a higher grade then most in the class.....her paper didnt bleed red 4/5/2007 6:54:57 PM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
THE PAPER WAS PHOTOSHOPPED 4/5/2007 8:56:34 PM |