mazda looks much better

4/2/2007 1:31:04 PM

Yeah I'll take the faster Mazda, thanks. Pity its FWD though

4/2/2007 1:37:49 PM

not faster to 60
limited hp in 1st kills the 0-60 in the mazda

4/2/2007 2:20:54 PM

More pics for your enjoyment/disappointment:

4/2/2007 2:22:15 PM

she's got fat hips captain

4/2/2007 2:24:45 PM

<--- seriously disappointed.
camry nose
somehow mazda 3 silhouette and glass area on the 5-door without being anywhere near as sexy
tribeca butt and fenders
and looking at the front 3/4 pic of the gray sedan, a lot of chevy aveo in the sills and door cross section.....

just not at all a good looking car. what the hell

4/2/2007 4:15:05 PM

So it's available as a sedan and a wagon (kinda like the current gen eh), so what's new? It's not like the WRX ever looked that good to begin with...
Ahmet

4/2/2007 4:27:20 PM

yeah the 04 05 models were the only ones that didn't have to grow on me

4/2/2007 6:16:04 PM

new tribeca... wow, from the front, it looks totally american, esp the grille and headlights. (doesn't some ford look exactly like that from the front? can't remember its name. or is it the hyundai santa fe) but still, that grill looks 10,000x better than the imprezza's.

why the hell can't they have a corporate grill??? what really fucks it up for the imprezza, is that there is no gap between the headlights and the grill, as there is in the new tribeca's. even if they kept the same grill on the new imprezza, but introduced a gap on either side, it would look so much better.





and the taillights of the tribeca remind me of the buick enclave... must have been designed completely in the US.




wow, is the tribeca a blatant copy or what???

4/3/2007 8:43:28 AM

yeah but put the current tribecka up there...
i could see how it would evolve to that

the impreza on the other hand...

btw who would intentionally copy Buick anyway.

4/3/2007 8:55:01 AM

^ actually, after realizing that there is a sedan too, and seeing it, you can easily see that it looks pretty much like the current wrx.

more released pics:

http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm/country/jcf/newsID/2070403.001/subaru/all-new-subaru-impreza-and-impreza-wrx-revealed

for some reason, there are still no pics of the sedan's behind

compare:






not much has been changed except the grill.

but be honest, which one would you rather have, looking at those 2 pics?


[Edited on April 3, 2007 at 9:55 AM. Reason : ]

4/3/2007 9:46:42 AM

Neither.

Bought an Evo.

4/3/2007 9:58:03 AM

Why does every evo person INSIST on posting that they have an evo in every wrx/subie thread?

4/3/2007 11:31:49 AM

be nice, please.

[Edited on April 3, 2007 at 11:55 AM. Reason : ]

4/3/2007 11:44:17 AM

Why not?

4/3/2007 12:54:33 PM

.... this thread isn't discussing your car or anything related.
if someone was interested in your car they would start an EVO X thread maybe.

I don't know it just happens all the time i think every subaru thread i've seen you've posted about your evo in (or someone about their evo)

[Edited on April 3, 2007 at 1:33 PM. Reason : mehh you've only done it twice there is another evo guy that does it too.]

4/3/2007 1:30:17 PM

^ personally
I prefer to post subarus in evo threads (http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=458308)

4/3/2007 6:39:16 PM

Why is every subaru car made ugly as fucking sin?

4/4/2007 8:26:25 AM

Start with $
engineering gets $
Design gets $

4/4/2007 8:41:10 AM

finally, a photo of the back of the sedan:

(i like the back)






tons of new images here:

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-subaru-impreza/
http://www.worldcarfans.com/photos.cfm/photoID/3070403.001/country/jcf/subaru/2008-subaru-impreza

[Edited on April 5, 2007 at 10:51 PM. Reason : ]

4/5/2007 10:48:21 PM

i've never been a fan of single turbo dual exhaust

4/5/2007 11:19:29 PM

that looks, suzuki-ish

4/5/2007 11:23:34 PM

^ I agree.

4/6/2007 6:19:05 AM

that looks nothing like the back of a suzuki. the tail lights are totally different. the spoilers are different, the subaru doesn't have the lines in the bumper.

they both have a rear window, and the license plate on the truck, but so do most other cars on the road.

if anything it looks like a toyota echo, but certainly not as ugly as that suzuki crap.
although it looks less like a toyota echo than the earlier models did (the bug eyes ones looked almost exactly like an echo, except bigger)

[Edited on April 6, 2007 at 10:55 AM. Reason : .]

4/6/2007 10:53:46 AM

hahaha the color is the only similar design cue in the back of those two cars... that and the license plate

4/6/2007 11:18:19 AM

I know we're complaining a little much, but hopefully it will grow on us.

I still like this design better...

4/6/2007 11:48:04 AM

[Edited on April 6, 2007 at 3:09 PM. Reason : the WRC version is pretty hot ]

4/6/2007 3:07:57 PM

Quote :

"the moral of this story... Anything in WRC Spec can be pretty cool. "

4/6/2007 3:19:56 PM

^ true story

4/6/2007 3:21:31 PM

someone took my grill idea and did a WAY better job w/ it than me

if only it were as easy to mod the real thing as it is to photoshop

4/19/2007 9:20:45 AM

NOT Impressive in person.

Cheaper MazdaSpeed3 FTW

4/20/2007 1:47:07 PM

^ you've seen one in person already? I didn't think they were gonna ship until this summer/fall. I want to see and test drive one just for the heck of it. Supposed to have nicer suspension. Rear suspension is supposedly new double wish-bone.

4/20/2007 1:56:11 PM

^ he saw it at the NYC auto show about a week back.

4/20/2007 1:59:39 PM

ohhhhh...

4/20/2007 2:18:08 PM

Quote :

"i've never been a fan of single turbo dual exhaust"

uhh what does single turbo have to do with it?

4/20/2007 2:42:14 PM

simple...

it means all the exhaust starts in one pipe and then splits into 2 the split causes more harm then good in most cases you could just up size the pipe by 3/4" and have equal or better flow from a single exhaust

4/20/2007 4:43:28 PM

the mazda might be cheaper, but it's FWD, as has already been mentioned

4/20/2007 5:28:52 PM

anything that gets hp limited in low gears because of torque steer is gay

4/20/2007 6:19:27 PM

i've never been a WRX fan but that one is a step in the wrong direction stylistically sums it up big time

4/20/2007 9:19:20 PM

Evo X & WRX STi FACE OFF!!!!


http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=5211


Speculation:

Both will have about 320 hp and 320 lb-ft
0-60 in 4.5 for both
1/4 mile in 12.5 for both
Price about 32,000-35,000 for both


And some illustrations:

4/29/2007 9:19:53 PM

the front of the evo looks like a tC

4/29/2007 9:23:38 PM

grills fixt

5/9/2007 4:56:34 PM

Impreza S-GT (Impreza WRX in the US) goes on sale in Japan not with the 224 hp 2.5 litre engine, but with a 2 litre 250 hp engine:

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/05/jdm-subaru-impreza-goes-on-sale-with-250hp-2-0l-turbo/

(click above to see pics of the JDM WRX equivalent as well)

*********************************************************

STi rendering by CAR magazine:

6/6/2007 2:44:06 AM

This new WRX is all the more reason to pick up a used one!

6/6/2007 1:10:54 PM

depends on the weight... i think the hatch is lighter.

i found a company that puts 07 sti driveline in GC8 models ( pre wrx body style)
and you come out with a wider shorter 700lb lighter car.
sounds like a sweet deal to me!

6/6/2007 1:24:09 PM

Quote :

"mazda looks much better"

i agree.

6/6/2007 1:44:06 PM

^^that is pretty sweet.

6/6/2007 1:51:55 PM

let me qualify

it makes a wide body (fender massaging required) GC8 that is shorter (possibly even 2 door!) than the 07 model
and 5-7 hundred lbs lighter.
and then you can ask for the carbon wide body setup!

6/6/2007 1:59:29 PM

not a big fan of how the new evo and wrx look

6/7/2007 6:51:04 PM

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=121192

First Drive: 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX (JDM version)

Quote :

"The Japanese-spec car we drove at Tochigi featured our local turbocharged 2.0-liter boxer-4, which generates 248 horsepower at 6,000 rpm and 246 pound-feet of torque at 2,400 rpm."

Click and read.

Some new pics which make it look good. Judging from the pics, STi should look very good. Ricer tail lights would look a LOT BETTER if they were greyed out, and not clear.

6/27/2007 7:26:53 PM