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"Golf is NOT a sport. It is a skill game, like Billiards. The only reason you even freakin' sweat while playing it is because it's outside."

yeah i agree with you

if you'd take the time to click the tread i linked to earlier, you would see that

it is a sport, though -- maybe not as athletically challenging, but it's a sport

[Edited on April 8, 2007 at 5:59 PM. Reason : ]

4/8/2007 5:58:41 PM

so how many masters has woods won now?

4/8/2007 6:00:50 PM

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"yeah i agree with you if you'd take the time to click the tread i linked to earlier, you would see that it is a sport, though -- maybe not as athletically challenging, but it's a sport "

Yeah, I probably would have if your opinion meant two shits to me.

4/8/2007 7:03:43 PM

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=12464

4/8/2007 7:09:28 PM

The only people who say golf isnt a sport are the ones that really suck at it or dont play. Go try to hit a golf ball as hard as you hit a pool ball and see how you do in 18 holes dumbass.

Is baseball a sport? Fuck yes it is, but the players sit on their ass for over half of the duration of the game. That doesnt diminish the fact that its a sport.

4/8/2007 7:11:15 PM

^Call it what you want -- it doesn't take any rare physical ability. That's the point the poster earlier was making.

Golfers are protected from real competition because the sport is too expensive for most people to do. So, they shouldn't talk a lot of shit about how their skills are elite.

4/8/2007 7:18:47 PM

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""Golf is NOT a sport. It is a skill game, like Billiards. The only reason you even freakin' sweat while playing it is because it's outside." yeah i agree with you if you'd take the time to click the tread i linked to earlier, you would see that it is a sport, though -- "

4/8/2007 7:21:11 PM

^^you can play lots of sports without rare physical ability. I dont disagree with the rest of your post.

The best in the world in any sport have rare physical ability....thats why they're the best. But you can be a sloppy fat ass and play football, you can be short and slow but play basketball....Just as examples...yes the average golfer is not considered an athlete...probably the reason they're not very good at their sport.

[Edited on April 8, 2007 at 7:24 PM. Reason : ]

4/8/2007 7:22:51 PM

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"my simple argument is that golf is not the most athletic sport...[...]..doesnt take away from what tiger does."

Actually, it does take away from what Tiger does because it means he's dominant simply because the competition is weak. He is protected from facing strong competition by the cost of the sport.

Every kid in America isn't working hard every day trying to make it on the golf course because it's an expensive sport to break into. Hence, the best golfer is simply the most skilled guy out of a small group of guys with average physical ability.

If more people played golf, competition would cause the level of physical ability required to increase, making the best golfer someone with truly "rare" skills and ability (rare in an absolute sense, not just relative to the history of golf).


[Edited on April 8, 2007 at 7:41 PM. Reason : ^uh, no]

4/8/2007 7:24:05 PM

Can you fish when you're 80? -- yes

Can you play billiards when you're 80? --- yes

Can you play a round of golf when you're 80? ---yes

Can you hit a 90 MPH fastball when you're 80?--- Hell No

Many baseball players are not in the best shape in the world, but it's a sport. It's not a leisure oriented skill game like golf is.

(and here's where someone comes in saying 'you try carrying your clubs for 18 holes' --- because Tiger Woods carries his friggin clubs in every tourney. )

4/8/2007 7:46:46 PM

You can still swing a baseball bat the same way you swing a golf club when you're 80. 80 year old golfers suck though...as would an 80 year old baseball player. You just happen to be able to play golf without being powerful...just not well.

4/8/2007 8:32:15 PM

Tiger Wood's is the only athelte today that has a video game of his sport named after him, besides bmxing and motocross. DOMINANCE

4/8/2007 8:34:35 PM

if baseball is a sport then golf is a sport

4/8/2007 8:40:37 PM

10 percent of golfers can consistently break 90. That number is damn low. I'd be willing to bet that 90 percent of the people that shoot in the 70's or better are athletic people. This doesnt mean you have to be in good shape cause there are a few fat bastards that are good at golf. The good ones are usually very athletic people in general though....even the fat ones.


I'm just saying...you dont find too many limp wristed people that can consistently play golf in the 80's or better.

4/8/2007 9:01:34 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFePqTMLt0g&mode=related&search=

4/8/2007 9:08:20 PM

The peak of athletic ability right there.

4/9/2007 12:48:52 AM

its a sport... you do have to be in good shape... craig stadler is the only one who cut it as a fat guy

and baseball seems to be getting that way, ever since cecil fielder

4/9/2007 12:52:38 AM

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"if baseball is a sport then golf is a sport"

are u fuckin kiddin me???? I'll give you that golf is crazy hard, and i'm not even gonna try to play, cuz i've never played and id suck ass. But to compare golf, where you hit a ball, walk to get to it, and hit it again, walk to get to it, and hit it again........to baseball where you actually have to run, jog, sprint, turn, etc....yea, wow

4/9/2007 12:54:46 AM

i cant believe tiger won another one...hes the man

4/9/2007 12:56:11 AM

lol

Tiger is a lot lighter than I remember him being

4/9/2007 1:01:35 AM

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"are u fuckin kiddin me???? I'll give you that golf is crazy hard, and i'm not even gonna try to play, cuz i've never played and id suck ass. But to compare golf, where you hit a ball, walk to get to it, and hit it again, walk to get to it, and hit it again........to baseball where you actually have to run, jog, sprint, turn, etc....yea, wow"

I'm with you....but the american league has the DH, 1st basemen and pitchers dont do a whole lot of running...especially AL pitchers who dont bat. Just saying. Also...just because you're able to sprint to get a fly ball doesnt mean you're in peak physical condition. There are some major league baseball players who STRUGGLE to run the bases.

4/9/2007 1:06:21 AM

Shit, Tim Clark took in 130k even though he finished 13. Fucking easy money

4/9/2007 1:07:09 AM

^non guaranteed easy money

4/9/2007 1:10:31 AM

Golf isn't a sport because you don't dribble a ball and dunk it in a basket.

Tiger is only good because his competition is weak. If they let every hobo that has ever touched a golf club play in the PGA then we'd see who the real golfers were.



[Edited on April 9, 2007 at 7:28 AM. Reason : -]

4/9/2007 7:26:17 AM

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"so how many masters has woods won now?"

4

4/9/2007 10:00:49 AM

Poker's a sport right? They have it on ESPN.

4/9/2007 10:10:52 AM

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"Golf isn't a sport because you don't dribble a ball and dunk it in a basket."

Fucking retard. So football isn't a sport? Hockey isn't a sport? Golf is a sport, a less physically taxing one, but it still is a sport. And whoever the fucktard that said golf doesn't require any rare physical ability...you could spend the rest of your life on a driving range and you'd never get as good as Tiger, he was blessed with a VERY rare talent - that combined with his work ethic made him one of the best golfers of all time.

4/9/2007 10:14:24 AM

Sarcasm escapes you entirely doesn't it?

4/9/2007 10:17:21 AM

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"If they let every hobo that has ever touched a golf club play in the PGA then we'd see who the real golfers were."

I would both support and watch hobo golf.

4/9/2007 10:24:26 AM

Quote :

"are u fuckin kiddin me???? I'll give you that golf is crazy hard, and i'm not even gonna try to play, cuz i've never played and id suck ass. But to compare golf, where you hit a ball, walk to get to it, and hit it again, walk to get to it, and hit it again........to baseball where you actually have to run, jog, sprint, turn, etc....yea, wow"

you mean baseball, where you run for a few seconds then stand around and wait for awhile. theres a reason all the old baseball players were fat, its not a sport.

4/9/2007 10:27:14 AM

^^^ My bad, you never know. Smarter people have said worse on here.

4/9/2007 10:28:18 AM

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"Smarter people have said worse on here."

Thanks.

4/9/2007 10:31:55 AM

My opinion: a sport has offense and defense

baseball is def a sport, offense and defense are obvious.

golf is def a sport, offense is the golfer skills and defense is the course itself.

also, good observation that golf only allows the rich in, therefore, we are only seeing a select few in the field. never thought of it that way. i guess, with that argument, tiger may only be average. the real MJ of golf may be in harlem right now, where he will only be average at basketball.

4/9/2007 10:34:19 AM

but that eliminates all varieties of racing (not counting many other things)

i think golf is a sport, just not a very athletic one.

[Edited on April 9, 2007 at 10:38 AM. Reason : .,]

4/9/2007 10:38:15 AM

^good call on the racing...not much defense in track and field, yet still a sport.

4/9/2007 10:40:24 AM

does it matter what is and isn't defined as a sport.

they're all games

4/9/2007 10:52:17 AM

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"My opinion: a sport has offense and defense"

Chess has offense and defense, is it a sport?

Swimming, track & field, and NBA basketball have no defense, are they not sports?

4/9/2007 11:40:01 AM

http://www.brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=416513

4/9/2007 11:43:07 AM

^^i already said track and field was a good argument

i am retracting my offense and defense statement

and, no, chess is not a sport, imo

4/9/2007 12:22:29 PM

if curling can be an olympic sport, golf can be a recreational sport /thread

4/9/2007 1:56:45 PM

Tiger choked?

4/9/2007 4:35:43 PM

?

4/9/2007 4:56:41 PM

I don't think Tiger choked either. I think Zach Johnson just won the tourney.

4/9/2007 5:08:18 PM

3 birdies in the last 6 holes = winning the tournament. I personally thought Tiger would win if he posted +3...and if Johnson doesnt play out of his mind on the back 9 phil would have put the jacket back on tiger in all likelihood.

4/9/2007 5:28:53 PM

*Camera zooms out and course is set up in some t.v studio*

4/9/2007 5:36:37 PM