I think you are seeing, as evident by this thread, that as the younger generation is getting older you are seeing less tolerance for the race card being flung around at will. Sure it wasnt a smart thing to say, but it seems this is getting WAY blown out of proportion and I think he apologized...which he should.. and get over it now. Now they keep parading any black person they can find in front of a camera to ask them about IMus..IMUS? who gives a fuck about IMUS last week? Its absurd, and the younger generations are seeing rev al and jesse as the fools they are, and just trying to stir up the race pot to stay in power.

4/10/2007 10:03:13 PM

aha, i just saw last night's Colbert Report. Colbert on the Ert
http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/index.jhtml?ml_video=84654

4/10/2007 10:07:30 PM

ROWR I HAVE A RIGHT TO NOT BE OFFENDED

4/10/2007 10:18:47 PM

yeah i know right. if it wasnt for al and jesse this country would have no racial problems

4/10/2007 10:52:01 PM

fuck imus.

he's a peckerwood.

and far from a liberal.

4/10/2007 10:58:08 PM

Seriously. What the fuck does race have to do with this? Imus called the girls ugly, not a racial slur...

4/10/2007 11:00:15 PM

^?

what are you talking about?

4/10/2007 11:02:53 PM

Have you never known a nappy headed white girl?

Or an Asian ho?

4/10/2007 11:04:31 PM

mmmm.... nappy headed azn hos.

get me some, B.

4/10/2007 11:05:22 PM

I can't believe Rutgers had a press conference. Way to feed fuel to the fire, idiots

4/10/2007 11:06:43 PM

^LOL, esp one that the coach talks for 50 mins on it. Geez

4/10/2007 11:10:38 PM

They were talking like half their team went down in a plane crash.

4/10/2007 11:12:50 PM

did you hear about jesses protest? He gathered a whooping 50 people to protest with him......in chicago!!!!! You cant make this stuff up. That seriously made me laugh.

4/10/2007 11:41:03 PM

aaaaaaaaaaaahahaha, holy shit, i love colbert.
Ching Chong Ding Dong

4/10/2007 11:43:24 PM

i notices that you dickshits who are trying to minimize the fact that a nationally syndicated talk show host with a huge fanbase, called the entire Rutgers team "nappy headed" "(w)ho(re)s" and "jigaboos"

are the same dickshits who were hollering about tarheel basketball "niggers" in Sports Talk after they kicked our ass in the ACC championship.

yall are some real class acts.

4/10/2007 11:43:51 PM

When keeping it real goes wrong...

4/11/2007 12:00:49 AM

^^don't generalize, thats the same thing your complaining about

im sure you found 1 or 2 people that did that in this thread, maybe even 0

4/11/2007 12:30:48 AM

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"don't generalize"

wtf man, this is SB

4/11/2007 1:38:43 AM

Yeah, and we need this guy to sort it all out.

4/11/2007 2:24:20 AM

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"why is "nappy headed" a black identifier and therefore a racist comment? I don't know about anyone else, but when I hear nappy headed I think of dreadlock sporting hippies, not black people. "

intent

I don't get why the right hates Sharpton so much. Don't you all watch him on his various TV show appearances, and on The Daily Show? He's not a bad guy at all. He definitely knows how to make fun of himself, and doesn't deserve anyone's hatred.


[Edited on April 11, 2007 at 2:37 AM. Reason : ]

4/11/2007 2:34:16 AM

Sharpton is a pretty clever and funny guy. not only was he entertaining during the 2000 debates, he actually made some really good points.

i also, dont know why right wing nutjobs like hook and pals feel so threatened by him. i think its the same reason why Hillary is their #1 bugbear:

inferiority complex related to their ED or otherwise abnormal penises.




seriously, its all i can come up with.

4/11/2007 3:29:49 AM

I am really puzzled by this particular media circus.

I just don't understand why what he said matters in a broad social context. I can totally understand if the Rutgers women want him to apologize to them, in particular -- but surely that is between Imus and Rutgers.

But for it to become symbolic of race relations in general -- to the point of requiring Al Sharpton's august presence -- that is truly baffling.

He's not an opinion leader. He's a shock jock. Nobody takes him as an authority on anything; it's pulp humor.

I know that some people and organizations believe that everyone in the media has some overarching public responsibility. But, in my view, that's a very "old school" point of view. This is the twenty-first century. We have cable, we have blogs, we have all forms of old and new media. There's plenty of competition and oversight to drag down racist hacks. We don't need some monolithic "public defense" to filter out hacks.

These firestorms of controversy -- they don't work. Howard Stern was beaten silly for indecency; he just ran off to satellite and made a fortune. In many ways, forcing these "jocks" out of the old media models just forces them to be more creative.

I say -- if you don't like Don Imus, then don't listen to him. Write the advertisers. Blog about how evil he is. But ... don't expect the media to make this a multi-day, front-page story based on some dubious social importance; not when we have kids dying every day in Iraq. That is the height of "shock jock" hackery.

4/11/2007 4:16:36 AM

^^ I've got a right nut for you, joe_schmuck. Here are just a few reasons that Sharpton should STFU:

1.

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"He's also not without his own controversy. In 1995, Sharpton accused a Jewish store owner of racism after he was forced to raise the rent on his subtenant, a black-owned music store. Regardless of the legitimate reasons for doing so, Sharpton insisted on a protest, calling the Jewish man a 'white interloper'. Eventually the man's store was burnt to the ground, an event that Sharpton denied being present for. However, when confronted with a video tape that proved otherwise, his response was, 'What's wrong with denouncing white interlopers?'"

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/209238/one_reason_why_racism_still_exists.html

2.

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"In 1991, a 7-year-old black child was killed in a Crown Heights (Brooklyn) traffic accident when a car driven by a Hasidic Jew went out of control. Sharpton showed up to lead protests, calling Jews 'diamond merchants' and saying, 'If the Jews want to get it on, tell them to pin their yarmulkes back and come over to my house.' A young Talmudic scholar would later be surrounded by a mob and stabbed to death. Sharpton paid no lasting price, but then liberal Democrats rarely do."

http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=27809

3. Sharpton never apologized for his part in the Tawana Brawley rape lie. Brawley should have been prosecuted, and Sharpton should have been disgraced, but he has no shame and the left-wing media certainly won't even attempt to shame him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawana_Brawley

Maybe Sharpton, Jackson, and the like are your arbiters of truth, but they are not mine. Sharpton is nothing more than a race baiter who has no interest in solving the real internal and external problems of the African-American community.

BTW, any of you that might claim these things didn't happen or take issue with the sources can fuck off. I lived through this shit and I remember all of it--just like I remember Jesse Jackson's offensive "Hymietown" remarks.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/frenzy/jackson.htm

PS: NEWSFLASH: TWW-er calls Sharpton an entertainer! joe_shithead reveals his racist tendencies of neo-samboism and stereotyping with the comment. Way to go, dumbass!

[Edited on April 11, 2007 at 5:25 AM. Reason : .]

4/11/2007 5:09:10 AM

^^A-men Smoker. Hos is something that is used in music and other media ALL the time. Its not like he called them a bunch of dirty niggers. They may have been offended and he may feel the need to apologize, but this feigned national outrage by the black community it ridiculous. Where is the outrage at all these rappers talking about degrading women in their lyrics? Jesse Jackson tried to pin domestic violence on Don Imus. But how many black women from the Rutgers team listen to Imus? Pretty sure none. Bet they hear a lot more degradation of women on any rap station they listen to though.

I agree. Don Imus is not being forcefed to anybody. He's on cable TV and terrestrial talk radio. If Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are worried about this being inciteful and hate speech on the airwaves, what about any black talkers who are militant anti-white and say terrible things about white people on a daily basis. That is racist, hurtful, and degrading, yet Jesse and Al have no outrage for them? White people don't care because we can turn the damn radio dial. Apparently black people don't understand that though.

4/11/2007 8:06:43 AM

^^ You're plucking out things that Sharpton did a somewhat lengthy time ago, that he has recompensed for. He's a changed man from those times.

Lots of our politicians have skeletons in their closets, Bush included.

This Jewish website even has this to say about Sharpton regarding the 1995 thing you posted:

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" Since those controversies, however, Sharpton’s reputation appears to have been substantially rehabilitated, with many prominent Jewish figures describing him as having evolved. In his letter to Lieberman, Sharpton points out the significant inroads he has made in the Jewish community in recent years. In 2001 he traveled to Israel as a guest of then-Israeli foreign minister Shimon Peres. In recent years, he has built a cordial relationship with former New York City Mayor Ed Koch, as the two former adversaries joined forces to promote a program for nonviolent drug offenders. And after their joint losses in the 2004 presidential primaries, Lieberman himself spoke favorably of Sharpton in a documentary produced by the minister’s National Action Network. "

http://www.forward.com/articles/sharpton-lieberman-exchange-barbs/


[Edited on April 11, 2007 at 9:47 AM. Reason : ]

4/11/2007 9:46:05 AM

Quote :

"You're plucking out things that Sharpton did a somewhat lengthy time ago, that he has recompensed for."

I agree. That was very Al Sharpton of you.

4/11/2007 10:02:23 AM

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"He's not a bad guy at all. He definitely knows how to make fun of himself, and doesn't deserve anyone's hatred."

So having a sense of humor proves that you're a good person? It's like Jesse Jackson trying to take the moral high ground when he admitted he used to spit in the food of the white people he served when he worked at a restaurant.

4/11/2007 10:07:26 AM

want something more recent? look at the duke lacrosse BS.

The boys had to be guilty. Sharpton claimed these ''rich white boys'' attacked a ''black girl'' and if there weren't arrests immediately there would be no peace. The entire black community of Durham had been whipped into a frenzy. Town hall meetings were filled with Durham residents demanding Mike Nifong file charges against the accused.


I wonder if Rev AL, is on his way to durham to apologize to the INNOCENT? doubtful

4/11/2007 10:19:04 AM

id blame that more on nifong than sharpton..

4/11/2007 10:39:27 AM

so you blame sharpton running his mouth and rushing to judgement on nifong? Ok, I think Im done with you.

4/11/2007 10:42:25 AM

sharpton doesnt care about ruining the lives of a few duke kids since they're white and the supposed victim was black

just like he didnt care about ruining the life of Steven Pagones by calling him a racist and rapist just because Brawley's crazy ass said so

Sharpton (and Jesse Jackson as well) are like drug dealers who preach that drugs are wrong...oh they preach the right message alright (that racism is bad) but they completely exploit and blow things out of proportion to further their own agendas and bank accounts, all the while perpetuating racism

4/11/2007 11:05:31 AM

Some of you are un-fucking-believable! What Imus said was in very poor taste, but it was in jest. The comments listed above that Sharpton and Jackson have said were very serious.

Some here seem to picking and choosing what to be outraged about.

4/11/2007 11:13:43 AM

just remember kids. if someone is racist, blame jesse!

4/11/2007 11:21:21 AM

just remember kids, if someone can play the race card and blow meaningless shit out of proportion, call Jesse!

somehow radio callers yesterday were like "these Rutgers girls have become my daughters" and shit like that...well tell your fucking daughters to turn the other cheek and do the same yourself

4/11/2007 11:25:44 AM

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"just remember kids: if someone is racist, blame it's probably jesse!"

Fixed it for you.

4/11/2007 11:27:00 AM

4/11/2007 11:29:03 AM

4/11/2007 11:36:15 AM

I was ready to agree with hooksaw that every racist was Jesse Jackson. Then I found another picture.

4/11/2007 11:41:38 AM

^hey he was in the same organization as robert byrd! what a coincidence!

4/11/2007 11:46:59 AM

Quote :

"The boys had to be guilty. Sharpton claimed these ''rich white boys'' attacked a ''black girl'' and if there weren't arrests immediately there would be no peace. The entire black community of Durham had been whipped into a frenzy. Town hall meetings were filled with Durham residents demanding Mike Nifong file charges against the accused. "

The majority of white people and the media (particularly the media) initially were portraying them as guilty from the beginning too. It wasn't just Sharpton and the blacks.

4/11/2007 11:48:13 AM

i remember a lot of media members going along with the whole crazy "innocent until proven guilty" thing

but whatever

4/11/2007 11:49:50 AM

Al Sharpton Defends Himself Against Cocaine Deal Allegations


"(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

REV. AL SHARPTON, NATIONAL ACTION NETWORK: So what kind of time limit are we dealing with, with this?

FBI AGENT: The coke?

SHARPTON: Yeah.

FBI AGENT: Could be -- about the same time I have four million coming to us.

SHARPTON: End of April.

FBI AGENT: End of April, six weeks from now.

Is that a good time, you think?

SHARPTON: Probably.

FBI AGENT: Now I can get pure coke, or, you know, 99 percent, for about 35,000 a kilo.

But I gotta get, you know, more than one.

SHARPTON: Right.

FBI AGENT: You know, if we're going to do this thing...

SHARPTON: Now you're talking about some real...

(END VIDEO CLIP)"



http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0207/23/cf.00.html

4/11/2007 11:51:43 AM

^ That was more than 20 years ago, you know.

Besides, Bush has some coke in his past as well as a drunk driving arrest (that he lied to try and cover up at the time too).

It doesn't make it right, but you can dig up a lot of dirt on any politician. If you want to use a double standard, that's fine, but realize it's a double standard, and not objective truth.

^^ http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=396452 That's basically a good snapshot of the Duke Lacrosse players at the time, and IIRC Duke fired the coach, which doesn't look good either.

[Edited on April 11, 2007 at 12:00 PM. Reason : ]

4/11/2007 11:59:27 AM

^ Sharpton is supposedly a "Reverend." In addition, the point is that Sharpton is a self-appointed arbiter--more like agitator--in these types of situations. BTW, Bush was elected.

So, in your world, I guess it's okay to be a lying, corrupt racist--just as long as it was a while ago. GG.

4/11/2007 12:25:23 PM

Who in here thinks that anything would have been made of this at all if Sharpton hadn't opened his big fucking mouth to complain?

4/11/2007 1:07:07 PM

^It may have...since your exact wording didn't include "or Jesse Jackson"

4/11/2007 1:12:15 PM

imus only owes an apology to the nappy-headed hos on rutgers' women's basketball team.

none of them probably even knew who imus was before monday, but all of a sudden they care about what he says.

and the suspension starts next monday? if nbc/cbs were really pissed, he wouldn't have been on the air this morning. i wonder if it has anything to do with $$$?

4/11/2007 1:45:38 PM

If Sharpton wants to clean up the mainstream, he needs to look no further than the top 10 songs of the day on any hip-hop radio station nationwide. More references to drugs, hos, nap, guns and n words than anyone can count.

Sharpton is the racist hypocrite...if he wasnt he would be after almost every rapper in the game right now. He is attacking Imus because Imus is white.

4/11/2007 2:42:24 PM

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"So, in your world, I guess it's okay to be a lying, corrupt racist--just as long as it was a while ago. GG. "

I'm just going by the precedent set by the right WRT their shadier politicians.

But, I guess if anyone has ever done anything bad in their past, in your world, they will always be a bad person?

4/11/2007 2:59:49 PM

Quote :

""I don’t know what’s in your heart and I’m not going to call you a name, I’m not going to call you a bigot. I’m going to say what you said was racist, I’m going to say what you said was abominable, I’m going to say you should be fired for saying it," Sharpton told Imus."

This is what Sharpton had to say to Imus. What is so crazy and insane about that?

^^ http://www.thehilltoponline.com/media/storage/paper590/news/2005/03/28/Campus/Sharpton.Calls.For.Ban.On.Violent.Rap.Music-904105.shtml" target="_blank">http://media.http://www.thehilltoponline.com/media/storage/paper590/news/2005/03/28/Campus/Sharpton.Calls.For.Ban.On.Violent.Rap.Music-904105.shtml

Sharpton called for a ban on playing violent rap/hip-hop music in response to a shooting centered around that.

He's attacking Imus because Imus said something that clearly had racist undertones. You're pretty much retarded if you can't acknowledge at least that much. I have never heard of Imus or heard Imus before this issue in the news, so I don't know the context of his show, but at the very least, what he said is going to piss people off, from a racial perspective.

[Edited on April 11, 2007 at 3:06 PM. Reason : g]

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