rastaman8 Veteran 292 Posts user info edit post |
Does it matter if my x and y values are switched on 13-4 b) for Pc and Pd?
[Edited on April 16, 2007 at 10:53 PM. Reason : ]
[Edited on April 16, 2007 at 10:54 PM. Reason : rrr] 4/16/2007 10:43:15 PM |
rastaman8 Veteran 292 Posts user info edit post |
jbl4me, do you still need 14-2? I got it. I can't figure out 14-3 though. 4/16/2007 11:12:35 PM |
jbl4me Veteran 222 Posts user info edit post |
So...I have them all now except 15-1 and 14-2 and 14-3
For 14-1 all you need is the formula (pexp(-(sigma/e)t)) correct? What about 14-2?
For 14-3 Im guessing you just take the curl of G and then take the partial with respect to t?
I'm gonna get food...i'll be back
[Edited on April 16, 2007 at 11:15 PM. Reason : .] 4/16/2007 11:14:25 PM |
rastaman8 Veteran 292 Posts user info edit post |
For 13-4 b) does it matter if my x and y values for Pc and Pd are switched? I did it the same way in the worked example, but they are opposite in the sample test problem.
14-1 Just use the equation.
14-2 Use the equation from 14-1. You'll have 2 undefined variables (p and sigma), and you'll have two equations. Just solve one for p and the plug it into the other for sigma.
[Edited on April 16, 2007 at 11:20 PM. Reason : j] 4/16/2007 11:19:48 PM |
rastaman8 Veteran 292 Posts user info edit post |
Can anyone help me out with 15-4? 4/16/2007 11:57:50 PM |
rastaman8 Veteran 292 Posts user info edit post |
ninja, you stated:
"the direction of H is Uy b/c E is in teh Ux and propigates in teh Uy so Ux (cross) Uy = Uz"
Don't you mean the direction of H is uz? 4/17/2007 12:03:33 AM |
jbl4me Veteran 222 Posts user info edit post |
^ 15-4 since H = E/n where n = sqrt(u/e) just evaluate for H.
14-2 I still cannot get... maybe cause my super annoying apartment mate is back and so i can't think
[Edited on April 17, 2007 at 12:08 AM. Reason : g] 4/17/2007 12:06:01 AM |
rastaman8 Veteran 292 Posts user info edit post |
14-2
p0(t) = 2 = p(t)*e^((-sigma / (20*8.854e-12))*t) p0(t) = 2 = p(t)*e^(-5.647e9*sigma*t)..........eq 1
p1(t) = 1 = p(t)*e^(-5.647e9*sigma*(t+10^-6))...........eq 2
eq1......p(t) = 2*e^(5.647e9*sigma*t) eq2......1 = [ 2*e^(5.647e9*sigma*t) ] * e^(-5.647e9*sigma*(t+10^-6))
Solve for sigma...I used my calc. 4/17/2007 12:10:32 AM |
rastaman8 Veteran 292 Posts user info edit post |
I'm only missing 15-1 and 14-3. 4/17/2007 12:17:33 AM |
jbl4me Veteran 222 Posts user info edit post |
Yea me too...I THINK i could get 14-3, but I don't feel like futzing with it 4/17/2007 12:20:29 AM |
rastaman8 Veteran 292 Posts user info edit post |
on 15-1,
I know how they get their values...but I don't know why. .0053 = 2 / 377 and .0133 = 5 / 377. I'm not sure why x and y are switched. 4/17/2007 12:22:38 AM |
ninjaOust Starting Lineup 65 Posts user info edit post |
Ya rastaman8
H has a direction of Uz.
did anyone get 15-4 i have the right numbers but I don't know why ux has a negative in front of it. 4/17/2007 12:34:08 AM |
rastaman8 Veteran 292 Posts user info edit post |
I got 15-4:
I think the sample test problem answer is wrong...ux in H is supposed to be negative. 4/17/2007 12:35:55 AM |
jbl4me Veteran 222 Posts user info edit post |
^ I agree its wrong in the notes. ux should be - 4/17/2007 12:37:51 AM |
rastaman8 Veteran 292 Posts user info edit post |
I'm really close on 14-3.
If you take the curl of G, you get:
90*e^(9y-6t) ux + 20*e^(4z-3t) uy
Integrate this to get F, and you get:
F = [-15*e^(9y-6t) + K1] ux + [-6.67*e^(4z-3t) + K2] uy
I'm not sure how to find both constants with only one boundary equation... 4/17/2007 12:39:14 AM |
jbl4me Veteran 222 Posts user info edit post |
I'm glad you still have some energy left...lol 4/17/2007 12:42:34 AM |
rastaman8 Veteran 292 Posts user info edit post |
I have no clue how to get another equation.
I have one...K1 + K2 - 21.67 = 0. which works since K1 = 15 and K2 = 6.67
But I don't know where to get the other one... 4/17/2007 12:45:21 AM |
rastaman8 Veteran 292 Posts user info edit post |
About time for bed...I'll be up early though and checking this...so feel free to try the rest of 14-3 or 15-1. 4/17/2007 12:58:42 AM |
daalians All American 557 Posts user info edit post |
15-4 isnt wrong... 4/17/2007 9:11:50 AM |
rastaman8 Veteran 292 Posts user info edit post |
^ Then why isn't ux negative? 4/17/2007 9:43:26 AM |
daalians All American 557 Posts user info edit post |
1/n * | ux uy uz | | 0 1 0 | | -7.07 0 7.07|
1/n* ( ux * 1 * 7.07 + -uz * 1 * -7.07)
.0593ux + .0593uz 4/17/2007 10:04:58 AM |
rastaman8 Veteran 292 Posts user info edit post |
Where did the | 0 1 0 | come from?
And do you know how to do 15-1 or the end of 14-3? 4/17/2007 10:24:49 AM |
daalians All American 557 Posts user info edit post |
i believe it was from saying p is in the pos y direction, its 1/n * uP x uE, i think...anyhoo off to test 4/17/2007 10:27:22 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
that test blew major asshole 4/17/2007 12:34:59 PM |
jbl4me Veteran 222 Posts user info edit post |
yea i failed it... 4/17/2007 1:03:25 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
i had no clue about the moving charge particle, think it was 2 or 3 4/17/2007 1:16:00 PM |
rastaman8 Veteran 292 Posts user info edit post |
I couldn't do 2 or 3... 4/17/2007 1:29:10 PM |
jbl4me Veteran 222 Posts user info edit post |
I just found E then F=qE 4/17/2007 1:52:47 PM |
daalians All American 557 Posts user info edit post |
4/17/2007 3:46:58 PM |