i have people coming over all the time and i want them to be able to see the TV well

plus I'm also looking for my TV to be a 2nd monitor and DLP doesn't work as well with the computer

I like DLP but LCD is better quality

i don't know about LCD projection though

5/20/2007 6:35:35 PM

im choosing between

Sharp Aquos LC-37GP1U 37" 1080P - $1,443.88
http://www.tvcity.tv/productview.aspx?ID=2060

and

Sony KDL40v250 40" Bravia 1080P - $1,627.88
http://www.tvcity.tv/productview.aspx?ID=1819

sharp has 3 hdmi + DVI

sony has 2 hdmi + VGA

sony is tad bigger and a bit more expensive

1080p - yes i am getting a ps3 in the future

5/24/2007 4:47:56 PM

which do you guys think is better?

5/24/2007 4:56:01 PM

they are both good tv's, pick based on inputs, size, and price that suits you. this is the answer to most questions of "which tv above 1000 dollars is better."

[Edited on May 24, 2007 at 6:41 PM. Reason : sharps seem to be the most popular from a lot of reviews ive read so id go with them though]

5/24/2007 6:41:08 PM

The Sony probably will have a crisper, brighter picture, but the sharp will have a smoother, cleaner picture, with a more reduced viewing angle.

You'd probably like the Sony more though, if you're using it with digital cable or satellite.

5/24/2007 6:45:24 PM

after going to Best Buy and looking at their TV's, I have come to the conclusion that DLP is pretty bad ass

It has a subpar viewing angle, but fuck my friends. As long as I can see the TV clearly and get one that is 10" bigger than an LCD flat screen then I am fine with that.

I'm looking to also have this TV as my 2nd monitor. Can I connect my computer to a DLP TV with good results?

[Edited on May 24, 2007 at 9:04 PM. Reason : yo]

5/24/2007 9:03:25 PM

i still dont see why you couldnt. i know the "pixels" on dlp are supposed to be a little less rigid than lcd's, but i doubt it could be that big of an issue.

5/24/2007 10:07:43 PM

^^ Computer should work fine. The other thing with DLP is the bulb and the tech is slightly more unreliable than your FP LCDs.

You're looking at like $200/blub every ~2-3 years or so.

Over the course of 10 years, you're adding ~$1000-$600 on the price of the TV. You could just put that money in to a good flat panel, and be better off, IMO.

[Edited on May 24, 2007 at 10:30 PM. Reason : ]

5/24/2007 10:29:14 PM

^good point

I'm not looking to have this TV for 10 years but definitely for 2-3 years
I've also heard of some people who have changed their bulb every year

I want to order this TV next week and I have no clue what to get

DLP is cheap for a massive TV but the bulb problem isn't too enticing

I still want this TV: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16889022030&ATT=89-022-030&CMP=OTC-C173T

What do you think? I don't care about the weight and the amount of connections as long as I have some place to hook into my computer (DVI input) and a decent sound system

5/24/2007 11:18:30 PM

asside from ugly bottom speaker and massive weight it doesnt sound bad for the price.

5/24/2007 11:34:20 PM

If you want really nice picture and high res don't waste money on a hdtv, get a 1600p lcd monitor. They're only like 1300-1500 for a 30 inch, and they're so much clearer. I guess i wouldn't spend money on a display that has a lower res than my laptop (1220p).

5/29/2007 10:35:58 AM

The added cost of TVs really accounts for connectivity. Monitors are nice, but the hardware to convert component, composite, hdmi, and s-video signals to DVI or VGA can be incredibly expensive (around $200 for all the connectivity a TV has).

5/29/2007 10:55:02 AM

Actually, most current lcd's have hookups for DVI, S-video, component, rca, and even coaxel. You're thinking of lcds monitors from the late 90's. Plus a dvi to hdmi cable runs for under 50. Don't know which monitors you've been looking at.

5/29/2007 11:19:42 AM

Quote :

"Actually, most current lcd's have hookups for DVI, S-video, component, rca, and even coaxel."

You're describing an LCD TV's list of hookups very well, but LCD monitors rarely have RCA, S-Video, or Coaxial connectors. Hell, coax connection implies tuner which would make it an LCD TV not an LCD monitor. Most LCD Monitors sold as monitors just have a DVI connection. Some have multiple DVI connections and/or a VGA connection.

Quote :

"Don't know which monitors you've been looking at."

How about Dell's Ultrasharp monitors, apple's LCD's, pretty much any monitor by samsung...

5/29/2007 11:29:00 AM

Lol, the current line of dell lcd monitors have hook ups for all those things. My current 24 inch dell lcd has dvi, s-video, rca, component, and vga.

5/29/2007 11:36:04 AM

So in my mind there's no point spending lots of money on an HDTV, when i can pay alot less and buy a lcd, and use it as a monitor, plus a tv. And coax is outdated anyway. I play 1200p games on it, watch over the air HDTV, and watch hundreds of hd-dvd/blueray movies, and all with a lot clearer picture than any HDTV.

5/29/2007 11:39:42 AM

No Coax though, the principal difference between an LCD TV and Monitor. I didn't say no LCD monitor has those other hookups. MOST do not.

Quote :

"Lol, the current line of dell lcd monitors have hook ups for all those things."

Note that the DEll 3007WFP DOES NOT have any of those hookups. Their smaller models do, but those aren't really large enough for a TV anywhere but a dorm or small bedroom.

Quote :

"So in my mind there's no point spending lots of money on an HDTV, when i can pay alot less and buy a lcd, and use it as a monitor, plus a tv."

Sure, if a puny 24' LCD monitor works for you as a tv you're right. Once you actually have a real appartment or a house, a 24-27" TV is way too small. If you want 30+ inches you'd generally be better off getting an actual tv though.

Quote :

"watch over the air HDTV, and watch hundreds of hd-dvd/blueray movies, and all with a lot clearer picture than any HDTV"

1080p native is 1080p native. I promise you that a 1080p signal doesn't look better being scalled up to fit your 1600p monitor. It should actually look a little worse.

[Edited on May 29, 2007 at 11:46 AM. Reason : ]

5/29/2007 11:40:22 AM

You're right the 30 inch doesn't, mainly because it takes a dual dvi connection. But still coax is outdated, and all anyone every needs is a dvi. I guess i'm cheap and run everything from my pc. Games, movies, tv, hdtv, etc. But yes if you really want a coax then go for an lcd, but right now i'm too cheap to buy a nice monitor AND a nice tv.

5/29/2007 11:44:52 AM

Yes i know this, but i also play quite a few games at 1920 by 1200, and they look nice rendered at 1200p, and i also have compared a 1080p movie on my monitor vs a 27 inch lcd hdtv, and mine looks quite a bit better even if it's upscaled to 1200p. (Mainly with the aid of two 8800gtx's in sli.) Sorry i haven't gotten the budget to start spending money on a tv/entertainment system yet, only on the pc.

[Edited on May 29, 2007 at 11:52 AM. Reason : ]

5/29/2007 11:49:55 AM

The 24-27" LCD monitors like the ultrasharps from dell make for a great entertainment PC. Upscaled 1080p and 720p content should look really good on them when compared to cheap LCD tv's. Not a bad choice for a dorm, bedroom, or studio appartment. For the living-room though, it definately IS worth it to spend a little more and get a 32" or larger TV of some sort.

5/29/2007 11:53:14 AM

Yeah, exactly, i can't wait until i can afford something bigger than a 32 inch sdtv for my living room.

5/29/2007 11:56:34 AM

Well the large DLP TV's run fairly cheap.

5/29/2007 11:57:59 AM

Yeah no kidding. Check this out: 50 inch 720p for only 899$. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889206010

5/29/2007 12:14:23 PM

I think with the surge of 1080p, you would probably be best of investing in a TV with the 1080p.
You may think now that it won't matter, but once you get addicted to HDTV, you usually want the best viewing experience.

The biggest thing I have seen with my Vizio is it still just has one HDMI, where I could really use 2+. Other than that, it is a great buy. I got a 32" for $700 a year ago, and I know the price has gone down greatly for all of them.

Right now I'm looking at getting a big TV for HDTV/Blu-Ray/HD-DVD. Looking into the DLP's because they are so much bigger for the money, and have very good definition on colors, etc. $200 extra to have the TV for 6 years seems fine to me. But plasma is def. not my favorite, too many detractions compared to LCD.

5/29/2007 1:43:38 PM

Quote :

" But plasma is def. not my favorite, too many detractions compared to LCD."

Like what?

5/29/2007 1:52:33 PM

Reflections, reliability, and burn-in; along with elevated price. LCD is just as good, without all those things.

5/29/2007 1:58:05 PM

Yeah 1080p is defin worth it if you can spend the money on a blueray/hd-dvd player, but right now i'm going with my 1920 by 1200 monitor, and 1080p content looks amazing on it.

5/29/2007 1:59:30 PM

Everyone should buy one of these bad boys:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-entertainment/sharp-rolls-out-gigantic-108inch-lcd-226761.php

[Edited on May 29, 2007 at 2:01 PM. Reason : ]

5/29/2007 2:00:56 PM

Quote :

"Reflections, reliability, and burn-in; along with elevated price. LCD is just as good, without all those things. "

But plasmas have better color range, faster response times, better viewing angles, and look better on standard definition content. They cost less a lot of times too, and are about the same as far as reliability.

The only drawbacks compared to LCD are that they have more glare (but still less glare than regular tube TVs) and are susceptible to burn in (but this is not a problem for most people anyway), and that for 1080p plasmas, you're paying a LOT more.

5/29/2007 2:21:40 PM

I think I have a winner...

Here is the TV I am buying...

Westinghouse LVM-42w2
42" HDTV-ready 1080p LCD monitor
http://tinyurl.com/2lfwgc

At $1200 for a 1080p 42" TV, I don't see how I can get any better for the price. It has all the connections I need and will be a perfect 2nd monitor if I wish. The only drawback is that is has no tuner but who the fuck cares since I have a Time Warner Cable Box.

5/29/2007 5:20:43 PM

sweet deal.

5/29/2007 5:52:31 PM

how does the newer one with the tuner stack up against, say the Sony Bravia I posted above? (then again i can get the sony for 1680 2 day air....)

6/1/2007 10:36:18 AM

DON'T MENTION THE DLP RAINBOWS

i never saw them till i was told about them and it ruined them for me.

6/1/2007 11:35:09 AM

More info on these rainbows needed. Or at least just tell me if its a good thing or bad thing.

6/1/2007 12:05:46 PM

seriously they're bad but you'll probably never see them unless you know where to look and when

6/1/2007 12:45:16 PM

I was looking to buy a DLP until I researched it a little better.

They might be initially cheaper that LCD's or plasmas but if your looking to have the TV for more than a year than the price of the DLP becomes the same or more.

$200 to replace a bulb every year is bullshit.

As I already posted above, this is the TV I bought http://tinyurl.com/2lfwgc

I ordered it on Wednesday and should have it by Friday next week. I'll let you guys know how it is.

6/1/2007 1:21:43 PM

i've heard not so good things about it's SD picture...

6/1/2007 1:36:48 PM

once you see hd... you won't ever want to watch sd again anyway.
don't worry about it comedy central is the only channel worth watching that doesn't come in hd

6/1/2007 1:46:16 PM

well true...

6/1/2007 1:49:04 PM

You could have got this TV http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/productDetail.do?oid=178155&WT.mc_n=4&WT.mc_t=U&cm_ven=COMPARISON%20SHOPPING&cm_cat=GOOGLE&cm_pla=DATAFEED->PRODUCTS&cm_ite=1%20PRODUCT&cm_keycode=4 which is$300 more but will have better picture quality.

6/1/2007 2:07:15 PM

ooooh that is nice. And 3 HDMI inputs!

Do you know info on reliability/quality in the Toshiba. And why is it nicer than the Westinghouse?

6/1/2007 2:20:43 PM

Instead of renting you could just buy a HDTV from bestbuy, and i think there's a 30 or 60 day return policy. That's what i did last summer, was buy a HDTV from bestbuy, then use it for a month, then i returned it, free of charge.

[Edited on June 1, 2007 at 2:35 PM. Reason : .]

6/1/2007 2:34:51 PM

renting? wtf are you talking about?

6/1/2007 3:10:09 PM

Quote :

" And why is it nicer than the Westinghouse?"

The Westinghouse, as far as picture quality goes, is bottom of the barrel. On HD stuff they are going to look better than a regular TV regardless, because it's a lot sharper, but compared to other HDTVs, they don't have as good black level, color saturation, or viewing angle, and don't have the best reliability (not terrible, but not near the top) either.

For a cheap TV for games though, the Westinghouses would work well.

6/1/2007 3:15:33 PM

^^
I was on the wrong page, and someone had asked about renting tv's, and i suggested that you could buy one and just return it, as a way to try out a tv.

6/1/2007 3:23:14 PM

oh ok

6/2/2007 3:10:39 AM

^^^ you just named every problem that every LCD tv has under like 4 grand. it's still a damn good tv for the price, for the normal person

6/2/2007 12:56:36 PM