Even though it pains me to say this...it's Kobe.

5/21/2007 12:24:12 AM

Wrong answer.

1) Shaq
2) Duncan


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3) Kobe
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everyone else

You can't argue with the results.

5/21/2007 12:37:52 AM

its kobe people

5/21/2007 12:42:54 AM

its not kobe. its shaq i think.

1. shaq
2. jj reddick
3. olajawon
4. duncan
5. chris webber

5/21/2007 1:03:18 AM

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"2. jj reddick"

i dont know if you are capable of "thought" after that one

5/21/2007 1:09:55 AM

Air Bud

5/21/2007 1:09:58 AM

Shaq

5/21/2007 8:04:17 AM

bow wow

5/21/2007 1:23:29 PM

1 - Tim Duncan - proven over and over again with different talent/players and very well about to show it again. Duncan each year is the leader of his team, is the one that shows consistency every game (regular season & playoffs). He has a good squad behind him, but Duncan is the man.

2 - Shaq - can arguably be placed at number 1 but injuries has plagued him the past couple years from being stand-out. But when healthy he is the most DOMINANT player in the league. But I bet he does not want to face the Big Fundamental. Also Shaq had Kobe...and for those that will ask what about Miami...Wade Carried the Team and Shaq assisted.

3 - Kobe - Had Shaq who made him look phenomanal (sp). Def coming to his own now, but needs a team. Until he rises to the level to carry a team and produce some Finals on his own...will not be the man.

.....LeBron - great upside and capabilities, but lets be real...way to young.
.....Wade - actually ahead of LeBron, he lead his team to championship already and if was not injured-likely taken team to conference finals again.
.....Mello - TBD



III

5/21/2007 2:30:06 PM

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"2 - Shaq - can arguably be placed at number 1 but injuries and poor physical conditioning have has plagued him the past couple 8-10 years from being stand-out. But when healthy he is the most DOMINANT player in the league. But I bet he does not want to face the Big Fundamental. Also Shaq had Kobe...and for those that will ask what about Miami...Wade Carried the Team and Shaq assisted. "

Also, Kobe got the team he asked for, whether or not it is the team he wants.

One question: Do those of you picking Kobe and/or Lebron consider Jordan the player of the 80s?

[Edited on May 21, 2007 at 2:44 PM. Reason : .]

5/21/2007 2:42:24 PM

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"Steve Nash"

5/21/2007 2:43:34 PM

^NO!

^^HA HA, but very TRU


III

5/21/2007 2:53:16 PM

i am not sure how people can compare Lebron to Kobe right now

i think Kobe is on a level by himself right now

5/21/2007 4:27:37 PM

i wonder if people were making "Best Player in the post-Erving era" threads around the early 90s

5/21/2007 4:29:59 PM

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"someone tell me how duncan is that much better than garnett "

i think the "3 rings" should be answer enough

5/21/2007 4:33:30 PM

How many times has Garnett been past the FIRST round? I am not saying he is not a good, potentially GREAT player, but right now...nothing.

Hopefully he will get traded to a team/owner that wants to win. Not sure how likely it is, or if possible, but I would love to see him in Cleveland.


III

5/21/2007 4:37:07 PM

i love KG and really wish he would get the hell out and get to a real contender

Kevin Mchale is doing a fantastic job killing his career

5/21/2007 4:39:27 PM

KG TO THE LAKERS!!!

PLEASE!!!

PLEASE!!!

5/21/2007 4:40:37 PM

i doubt he wants to play with kobe, but who knows...i think both of them really want to win...KG has always been a class act though...i'd like to see him get a title someday but for some reason I just dont see it

maybe he'll win one in 10 years a la gary payton as a role player on an up and coming team

5/21/2007 4:42:34 PM

My Top Ten Right Now (post-Jordan):
1A) Tim Duncan (will be best if Spurs win it all again)
1B) Shaq O'Neal (4 rings)
3) Kobe Bryant (3 rings)
4) Dwayne Wade (a ring, most dynamic player besides Kobe)
5) Steve Nash (2 time MVP)
6) Kevin Garnett (former MVP and constant 20-10-7 almost every night)
7) Jason Kidd (walking triple double, 2 Finals appearances)
8) LeBron James (will be higher once career is done)
9) Allen Iverson (former MVP, multiple time scoring champ, a Finals appearance)
10) Dirk Nowitzki (current MVP, Finals appearance)

5/21/2007 4:43:00 PM

im leaning w/ my homie BiggzsIII here

i would love to see KG w/ King James

5/21/2007 4:43:26 PM

I hate Kobe, and don't want to see Kobe win anything eva, but I think if KG went there it could be great for his career, however, can he and Kobe get along? I doubt it.

KG has to get out of Timberwolves country, he is dying a fast death there. Now him with LeBron - I think would be instant Eastern Conference finals for a few years. I want to see KG at least get some of what he deserves.


III

5/21/2007 4:46:07 PM

i love KG but him and Nowitski are soft...if you're a 7'0" you've gotta be able to play down low...draw fouls on a strong post move, dont settle on the fadeaway...his name is KG, not the Busdriver...FAYDAH!

5/21/2007 4:47:55 PM

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"My Top Ten Right Now (post-Jordan): 1A) Tim Duncan (will be best if Spurs win it all again) 1B) Shaq O'Neal (4 rings) 3) Kobe Bryant (3 rings) 4) Dwayne Wade (a ring, most dynamic player besides Kobe) 5) Steve Nash (2 time MVP) 6) Kevin Garnett (former MVP and constant 20-10-7 almost every night) 7) Jason Kidd (walking triple double, 2 Finals appearances) 8) LeBron James (will be higher once career is done) 9) Allen Iverson (former MVP, multiple time scoring champ, a Finals appearance) 10) Dirk Nowitzki (current MVP, Finals appearance)"

Can't really argue with you here, except for Kobe...dude has not done much of anything except score 50 a game...but nothing done to keep his team in the elite.


III

5/21/2007 4:48:22 PM

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"i love KG but him and Nowitski are soft...if you're a 7'0" you've gotta be able to play down low...draw fouls on a strong post move, dont settle on the fadeaway...his name is KG, not the Busdriver...FAYDAH!"

I think KG is trying to preserve some of his career...no need to get his ass whooped for someone that is not providing him a team to win with....I agree he settles on fadeaways but after some years you do have to play smarter...poor KG, I feel bad for him sometimes...then I think about how much he getting paid, and I say hey deal with it.


III

5/21/2007 4:50:46 PM

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"4) Dwayne Wade (a ring, most dynamic player besides Kobe)"

by most dynamic, you mean he finds a way to get a foul called on another player in many creative ways, right? He improved from #160 among guards in 05-06 to #139 in 06-07 (17% to 26%) in 3pt%, but that is still the lowest of any starter, let alone someone who plays any serious minutes.

5/21/2007 7:27:18 PM

i think AI needs to be a few spots higher on that list. he took a team completely devoid of talent to the finals and was only stopped by the Kobe/Shaq combo. Not to mention his competitive heart adn the way he always does all he can to win the game.

5/21/2007 10:30:20 PM

dude how do u not know michael olowokandi??

he's the ryan leaf i mean new Jordan of the NBA

#1 pick 1998 to the clippers, lawwwls

5/21/2007 10:47:12 PM

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"i think AI needs to be a few spots higher on that list. he larry brown took a team completely devoid of talent to the finals and was only stopped by the Kobe/Shaq combo. Not to mention his competitive heart adn the way he always does all he can to win the game."

5/21/2007 11:05:23 PM

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"dude how do u not know michael olowokandi??"

he played for Pacific, for fucks sake!!

5/21/2007 11:16:11 PM

^^ Is that a joke?

Allen Iverson was the best player in the league under 6'10 for about five straight seasons.


Larry Brown? The NBA is a player's league not a coaches. Coaches don't take teams to Finals.


Iverson took that team to the finals with Dikembe Mutombo, Aaron McKie, Eric Snow, and George Lynch as his supporting cast.

Show some fucking respect.

[Edited on May 21, 2007 at 11:17 PM. Reason : a]

5/21/2007 11:17:39 PM

yes...respect AI...he is under appreciated if anything

5/21/2007 11:51:34 PM

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"The NBA is a player's league not a coaches"

5/22/2007 4:28:37 PM

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"it is absurd to say he is the best player since jordan when he hasnt made a finals and Dallas improved significantly after chucking him"

The Mav's with Nowitzki, Nash, and Finley (02-04) were amazing, the best the franchise had been in years. The only reason they didn't win a championship is because Dirk was taken out of the playoffs against the Spurs (who they were beating) and their depth was destroyed with two injured backup centers. They still pushed the Spurs to 6.

Then they acquired three key players just before (or as) Nash left.

Nash went to the Suns and rejuvenated a team that hadn't seen success since Barkley. He's the best all around player (who can consistently put up triple-doubles these days that isn't a complete show off playing with a terrible team) and in a season or two, he'll be wearing a ring.

Even Jordan took a couple of years to win a championship in Chicago.

5/22/2007 6:21:56 PM

I think you have to be a good defender to be considered a good all-around player.

[Edited on May 22, 2007 at 6:38 PM. Reason : d]

5/22/2007 6:38:43 PM

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"Iverson took that team to the finals with Dikembe Mutombo, Aaron McKie, Eric Snow, and George Lynch as his supporting cast."

So Lebron could be in that same category if the Cavs pull it off this year? He even has one of them 4 you listed still playing for him.

5/22/2007 6:47:13 PM

calvin johnson

5/22/2007 6:49:02 PM

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"He's the best all around player (who can consistently put up triple-doubles these days that isn't a complete show off playing with a terrible team)"

wait

he nash consistently puts up double doulbes? I think you are thinking of Jason Kidd. He is the only one who first your description in parentheses.

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"Even Jordan took a couple of years to win a championship in Chicago."

nash has been in the league about 5 years longer than jordan when he won his first championship

^^yes he could be.

5/22/2007 6:58:18 PM

I dont understand how someone getting traded to a better team makes them a better player.


let me rephrase ... obviously going to a better team will make ou a better player in the long run.


what i mean is .... if sean bradly was signed by the spurs tomorrow and they won the championship he woudlnt suddenly become a great player.

I think our view of "great player" revolves too much around the people they play with. although basketball more than most sports is much more apt to be taken over by one player, in a specific game

[Edited on May 22, 2007 at 8:11 PM. Reason : .]

5/22/2007 8:06:49 PM

Bonds has put together some pretty good seasons if you can overlook the steroid thing

5/22/2007 8:51:10 PM

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"Nash went to the Suns and rejuvenated a team that hadn't seen success since Barkley. He's the best all around player (who can consistently put up triple-doubles these days that isn't a complete show off playing with a terrible team) and in a season or two, he'll be wearing a ring. "

doesnt Nash have like 2 career triple doubles?

also doesnt the "Best Player in the post-Jordan era" have to be able to play a fucking shred of defense?

5/23/2007 10:41:08 AM

i couldnt agree more

5/23/2007 5:14:38 PM

1. Kobe (Best offensive player, Best perimeter defender when he's asked to be, 90% of the time will be chosen by any coach to take the last shot, just needs someone who can hit a shot or catch the damn ball so he can pass more. I think this summers USA national competition will be great if Kobe is there)

2. Duncan (very solid player, but he probably wouldn't be in the conference finals if Bowen and Ginobli didn't hit all those three's in the fourth quarters against the Suns)

3. Shaq (last 4 years, hasn't been that much. When Miami beat Dallas in the finals, seriously Shaq was a non-factor, ESPN showed Miami + in points when he was out)

5/26/2007 4:13:05 PM

nvm

[Edited on May 26, 2007 at 4:43 PM. Reason : hmmmmm]

5/26/2007 4:42:30 PM