neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah exactly, and the only thing I can think of is if it causes bronchial dialation then it's possible to have the same effect on the ethmoid and sphenoid sinuses, but that's not my field, i'm an engineer. I can note though that my friends always comment that I sniff a lot less after smoking. (My allergies cause me to usually have a stuffy or irritated nose all the time.)
[Edited on May 29, 2007 at 3:30 PM. Reason : :] 5/29/2007 3:28:46 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
I know most nasal sprays work bc they have a vasoconstictor, so they attach to different receptors.. a vs. b.. if i remember my pharm correctly. I think the vasocontrictor is what aids the decongestant and helps with sinus, vs a bronchiol dilator. 5/29/2007 3:44:53 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah but most vasoconstrictors are drugs like amphetamines, heroin, steroids, and cocaine which cause a hell of a lot of trouble on the body. So i'd rather not take any of those drugs in excess, whereas marijuana has been known to decrease cerebral and sinal swelling in studies i've read. So if it works for me, then i'm okay with that. I'll continue to find out why. 5/29/2007 3:54:13 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Steriods are safe to use, but like all drugs have side effects. I certainly wouldnt recommend you use cocaine when you have other drugs, less addictive and legal as alternatives. I believe the most commonly use decongestant is phenylephrine. I also use it to dilate eyes.
Id also be interested if you would ask your doc how it works to relieve it. I enjoyed the discussion. You have a good one.
[Edited on May 29, 2007 at 4:24 PM. Reason : >] 5/29/2007 4:14:32 PM |
Mr E Nigma All American 5450 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I have no desire to smoke weed and I am 100% for the legalization of pot." |
5/29/2007 4:24:49 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah but aren't there recent studies that show phenylephrine might not be any more effective than a placebo? And it causes hypertension. For example alot of doctors say that companies are switching from pseudoephedrines to phenylephrines, and phenylephrines arn't as effective. Also many doctors say that using phenylephrines in a nasal spray are fine for short term stuffiness because of a cold, but should not be used long term because there's a rebound effect which might worsen cogestion.
yeah you too, and i'll ask him about that.
[Edited on May 29, 2007 at 4:29 PM. Reason : :] 5/29/2007 4:26:04 PM |
mourningwood Suspended 227 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "are you holdin?
did william holden come to the party?
you got holden caulfield in there man? " |
jimmy you had to get your last thread deleted didn't you learn your lesson posting on tww?
i don't see how you'd be any fun at a party anyhow because after poker night your ex got excited and announced that the rest of us could do drugs now that you left
[Edited on May 29, 2007 at 6:34 PM. Reason : lolz]5/29/2007 6:29:24 PM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so you are saying you would rather have an employee working for you to drink a beer at lunch then to smoke a joint at lunch?" |
yeah, thats exactly what i said.5/29/2007 7:29:00 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
^I would bet most employers wouldn't want either. 5/30/2007 10:23:12 AM |
Sayer now with sarcasm 9841 Posts user info edit post |
A close friend of mine works at Duke Med and they're banning smoking by employees even outside the building. She thought it was because they were trying to be PC or influence the lifestyles of their workers, but I pointed out that most companies who provide health coverage probably get a big incentive from the health care provider to do something like this. In the end it's all about the money. 5/30/2007 10:28:32 AM |
392 Suspended 2488 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "...the gov has a history of blocking scientific studies since the major one they funded in the mid 20th century, produced results that they didn't like." |
6/4/2007 10:05:16 AM |